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Username Post: March Madness        (Topic#21327)
penn nation 
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03-12-18 09:33 PM - Post#252608    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

For me, the biggest stretch was the final 4:10 of the first half. Harvard squandered a 13 point lead and ended up giving up 13 points in the final 3 minutes to trail by 2 at the half.

Almost all of their shots in those final 5 minutes were off-balance/one handed from a big with little chance for an offense rebound.

 
Quakers03 
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March Madness
03-12-18 09:37 PM - Post#252612    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

  • HARVARDDADGRAD Said:
I feel that the key play was when Penn missed a shot in the final minutes with Harvard up by 3, but Johnson failed to box out Wood or even go for the rebound. Penn hit a big 3 within seconds, instead of possibly falling behind by 2 sores. That was big.


That was indeed a HUGE play as Caleb came flying in along the baseline after a missed 3. He then got to the line for 2 free throws, not a 3. Those came later, courtesy of him as well, and with it a title. The play also ended the 13-0 run. The stories on this team, including Caleb and his 4.0 gpa, are almost as good as what we saw from the Birds. Only one more thing could make it better...

Speaking of the Caleb 3's, the screen AJ set on the and 1 was interesting...

I've watched the Betley play a bunch and I'm not the least bit convinced it landed out.

 
TheLine 
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03-12-18 09:45 PM - Post#252616    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

Any word on Seth Towns? It was hard seeing him in pain and tears on the sideline.


 
PennFan10 
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03-12-18 09:55 PM - Post#252619    
    In response to TheLine

AJs screen? Not nearly as bad as Chris Lewis street sweeper screen that led to the Juzang 3 with under a minute left. Or the Corey Johnson Fosbury vs Max with under 2 to play. Some poor calls down the stretch both ways for sure.

 
LyleGold 
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Re: March Madness
03-12-18 09:57 PM - Post#252620    
    In response to Quakers03

  • Quakers03 Said:

I've watched the Betley play a bunch and I'm not the least bit convinced it landed out.



That's the only part of the play that remains a mystery. Looking at the parts of the baseline that are visible and other factors like the red border, Ryan may have safely regained the ball. I wish there was another angle. I guess we'll never know. If the ref hadn't reflexively blown his whistle, Ryan may have been legitimately fouled a second later or called timeout. If you've watched him in similar situations this year, he always holds the ball and waits for the foul call. That strategy killed us at Yale.

 
LyleGold 
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Re: March Madness
03-12-18 10:10 PM - Post#252622    
    In response to LyleGold

Oh, and by the way, how close did Devon Goodman come to fouling Bassey's 3 pt attempt on the final play? Their hands came together after releasing the shot. We've seen a lot less called lately (Silpe's foul against Yale being the most egregious.)

 
palestra38 
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Re: March Madness
03-12-18 10:12 PM - Post#252623    
    In response to LyleGold

What are you doing? Are you intentionally trolling our own site trying to make Harvard fans think they got screwed???

 
penn nation 
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Re: March Madness
03-12-18 10:14 PM - Post#252624    
    In response to LyleGold

Ryan should have been calling for time right away as he was clearly in trouble, but never did. We had two TOs in our back pocket.

  • LyleGold Said:
  • Quakers03 Said:

I've watched the Betley play a bunch and I'm not the least bit convinced it landed out.



That's the only part of the play that remains a mystery. Looking at the parts of the baseline that are visible and other factors like the red border, Ryan may have safely regained the ball.




 
LyleGold 
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Re: March Madness
03-12-18 10:24 PM - Post#252629    
    In response to palestra38

  • palestra38 Said:
What are you doing? Are you intentionally trolling our own site trying to make Harvard fans think they got screwed???



No, but if they do, that's just a bonus.

I'm just pointing out what a fine edge decided this game. It's not trolling if it's the truth. You know I've bitched about how many times we've gotten screwed and the refereeing in general drives me crazy, but for once it worked out for us. It very easily could have gone the other way.

 
Quakers03 
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03-12-18 10:42 PM - Post#252633    
    In response to PennFan10

  • PennFan10 Said:
AJs screen? Not nearly as bad as Chris Lewis street sweeper screen that led to the Juzang 3 with under a minute left. Or the Corey Johnson Fosbury vs Max with under 2 to play. Some poor calls down the stretch both ways for sure.


Agreed in full. I'm just glad they let them play for the most part.

 
SRP 
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03-13-18 08:07 PM - Post#252874    
    In response to Quakers03

The worst blown call was the first-half charge where the ref falsely claimed that the help defender for Harvard was in the restricted area. The replay showed in black-and-white that he was not.

 
SomeGuy 
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03-13-18 08:18 PM - Post#252879    
    In response to SRP

That’s one where seeing it live it looked like a good call (so i’m Surprised to hear it was not).

Is this a useful time for me to say that I don’t really get why the calls are ever even a conversation? Maybe it’s from coaching myself and not wanting players to worry about the refs (so i never argue a call), but you get some calls, and some go against you. I don’t give it a second thought. Reffing is hard, and sometimes they’ll get them wrong. Part of the game.

 
penn nation 
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03-13-18 08:47 PM - Post#252895    
    In response to SomeGuy

I think that might have been the call the announcers said Amaker could have appealed if he wanted to.

 
Quakers03 
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03-13-18 09:29 PM - Post#252899    
    In response to penn nation

It was indeed. I watched it again last night. From a technical standpoint the Columbia color guy is right, assuming the call was made because he was in the restricted. I guess we can take his word for it but I thought the defender was still moving anyway.

 
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