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Username Post: Maryland vs. Tigers        (Topic#21343)
bradley 
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03-16-18 02:10 PM - Post#253420    
    In response to sparman

Overmatched although they have not played well. Young players are not ready for the big time. It will be a plus when they are Juniors and Seniors as they really only lose Robinson but there is a talent gap.

Not a great advertisement for a two bid league. At soe point, aaybe some people will get real as to what it takes to be a multi bid league. IL is not there yet but let's hope that it gets there one day in the not too distant future. Easy to say -- hard to do.

 
Go Green 
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03-16-18 02:18 PM - Post#253424    
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Not Princeton's day. Congrats on a fine season.

 
sparman 
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03-16-18 02:21 PM - Post#253426    
    In response to bradley

Big difference between dominating Cornell and Dartmouth versus the Big 10. Depth needed.

 
bradley 
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03-16-18 02:33 PM - Post#253431    
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Agree. The Tigers have 3 players who can compete at this level for the next 2-3 years === Alarie, Myers and Littlefield. Robinson is a good player but at this level, she just does not have enough height or quickness but she has been wonderful for the program. There are several excellent recruits coming in but always the question in the Ivies is do they have the athleticism to compete at this level while being able to play in the system.

Banghart may well be leaving as she will get an opportunity to take over a big time program unless she want to ride with Alarie for the next two years. It would be a big time blow. Over the past ten years, she has the highest winning percentage of all IL BB coaches, men or women, by a significant amount.

 
Go Green 
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03-16-18 02:51 PM - Post#253435    
    In response to bradley

  • bradley Said:

Banghart may well be leaving as she will get an opportunity to take over a big time program .



Banghart has been a finalist at some big places-including Southern Cal and Vanderbilt. Whether or not she was actually offered those jobs, I don't know.

My gut is that she loves Ivy basketball and is fine becoming the female Pete Carril.

 
sparman 
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03-16-18 03:16 PM - Post#253443    
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While I recognize the salary differential could be too big to pass up forever, she has probably noticed that successful ivy coaches who move on to the "next level" have an uncertain track record. Also moving a family presents challenges to other family members. Perhaps she accepts, for now, that she could stay, comfortably, as long as she wants in NJ.

Who knows. We have the same issue each year now.

 
SecS3 
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03-16-18 05:21 PM - Post#253457    
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All of these rumors about Coach Banghart ran rampant after winning four in a row and after the undefeated season. I'd be pretty surprised if she jumped ship on Alarie, Littlefield and Myers.

 
rbg 
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03-16-18 05:33 PM - Post#253459    
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The first and third quarters really did the Tigers in today. Maryland shot poorly in the first quarter, but their 7 offensive rebounds saved them. In the third quarter, they shot 9-15 (Princeton went 4-13) to break open a close game. Going 4-20 from three definitely did not help matters.

Maryland, like Rutgers earlier this season, proved to be too fast and strong.

No matter today's result, the team had a great season, an excellent Ivy Tournament and represented the conference well.

 
bradley 
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03-16-18 06:33 PM - Post#253470    
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I agree that she would be the Princeton version of Pete Carril with a far more dominant program. With that said, I believe that she is going to leave as she has sights set on being one of the top coaches in the country and I would not rule out if she tries a men's program when those opportunities become available in the not too distant future.

I believe with no absolute knowledge that she is a ground breaker. Let's see -- next step will be success at a major women's program. She can do it but I hope not. Somewhat equated her to Penn's women coach -- not even close -- simply look at the records even with her first two years which were tough, turnaround years. She is underestimated by many.

 
1LotteryPick1969 
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03-17-18 01:59 PM - Post#253617    
    In response to bradley

  • bradley Said:
I would not rule out if she tries a men's program when those opportunities become available in the not too distant future.



Agreed!


 
Go Green 
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03-21-18 07:51 AM - Post#253978    
    In response to 1LotteryPick1969

Here's one possible destination for Banghart.

http://www.nbc29.com/story/14239051/debbie -ryan-to...




 
rbg 
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03-21-18 09:21 AM - Post#253980    
    In response to Go Green

While that link was for a 2011 article, the Virginia job has opened up again due to the retirement of Joanne Boyle.

https://whoopdirt.com/virginia-head-coach-j oanne-b...

SummittHoops has a list of the Coaching Carousel and UVa seems to be the highest profile program on their list.

https://summitthoops.com/2018/03/09/2018-d1-co achi...

Surprisingly, they do not have Banghart on their early list of potential replacements:
https://summitthoops.com/2018/03/09/2018-d1-co achi...

They list Dawn Staley (South Carolina coach; former UVa star), Tina Langley (Rice coach), Tonya Cardoza (Temple coach; former UVa star), Lindsay Gottlieb (Cal coach; former Richmond assistant), Felisha Legette-Jack (Buffalo coach; former Indiana coach; former BC, Syracuse & Michigan State assistant), and Charlotte Smith (Elon coach; former UNC star).

Interestingly, on their list for the open BC job, is Harvard's Kathy Delaney-Smith:
https://summitthoops.com/2018/03/09/2018-d1-co achi...

 
Go Green 
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Maryland vs. Tigers
03-21-18 09:25 AM - Post#253981    
    In response to rbg

  • rbg Said:
While that link was for a 2011 article, the Virginia job has opened up again due to the retirement of Joanne Boyle.





Really? Damn, my bad. Just saw the news on a blurb and posted the first article that came up on Google.

Will be more careful next time!

And I agree that Staley should be the front runner for the job. Probably hers if she wants it.

Edited by Go Green on 03-21-18 09:39 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
dperry 
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03-22-18 12:29 AM - Post#254051    
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  • bradley Said:
Somewhat equated her to Penn's women coach -- not even close -- simply look at the records even with her first two years which were tough, turnaround years. She is underestimated by many.



The records since 2013-14 don't seem too different to me:

Penn: 63-11 Ivy (counting tournament), 3 champs, 111-38 overall
Princeton: 61-13 Ivy, 2 champs, 115-36 overall

After all, it would be hardly be fair to count McLaughlin's first four years, when he was rebuilding a program from ground zero (even lower than what Banghart inherited, not to mention with less resources, academic cachet, etc.) against an already established dynasty. Nevertheless, it only took him one more year to win his first championship than she did. There's also the minor detail that his average season at Holy Family over 11 or 12 years was 29-4. He may not be able to keep up (I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a bit discouraged about this at the moment), but that's not proven yet. And for what it's worth, I don't think she's going anywhere.
David Perry
Penn '92
"Hail, Alma Mater/Thy sons cheer thee now
To thee, Pennsylvania/All rivals must bow!!!"


 
SecS3 
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03-22-18 10:33 AM - Post#254071    
    In response to dperry

This reeks of sounding like the government. You can spin numbers to say whatever you want. Why don't we just put this to bed and admit that both coaches have been great for their programs and done a remarkable job. Let's leave it at that and see how the future plays out.

 
dperry 
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03-22-18 08:43 PM - Post#254174    
    In response to SecS3

  • SecS3 Said:
This reeks of sounding like the government. You can spin numbers to say whatever you want. Why don't we just put this to bed and admit that both coaches have been great for their programs and done a remarkable job. Let's leave it at that and see how the future plays out.



Hey, I won't spin numbers if you all won't make bald assertions. That being said, I'm content to let this lie here for now.
David Perry
Penn '92
"Hail, Alma Mater/Thy sons cheer thee now
To thee, Pennsylvania/All rivals must bow!!!"


 
Go Green 
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Maryland vs. Tigers
03-29-18 07:56 AM - Post#254506    
    In response to rbg

  • rbg Said:
While that link was for a 2011 article, the Virginia job has opened up again due to the retirement of Joanne Boyle.





Anyone interested, Coach Boyle resigned to finalize the adoption of her daughter from Senegal.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/immigration/s...

Edited by Go Green on 03-29-18 07:57 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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