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Username Post: 2018-2019 Schedule News        (Topic#21438)
digamma 
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03-29-18 12:56 PM - Post#254518    

First shoes beginning to drop, with Rothstein reporting we will travel to Chapel Hill.

 
84grad 
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Re: 2018-2019 Schedule News
03-29-18 02:37 PM - Post#254520    
    In response to digamma

That's excellent news. Need to have some top tier games, particularly with no in season tournament.

 
PennFan10 
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03-29-18 03:46 PM - Post#254530    
    In response to 84grad

Penn hosting Miami at the Palestra next season.

We need some stronger SOS for the IL teams!



 
Mike Porter 
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03-29-18 05:34 PM - Post#254540    
    In response to PennFan10

Oh wow, that's awesome that Miami is playing at the Palestra - I'm sure it is for Walker who is from Philly.

Especially nice for me since my little brother went to Miami! Too bad we both live in Los Angeles, haha.

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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03-29-18 11:51 PM - Post#254555    
    In response to Mike Porter

Harvard’s OOC SOS was around 70th the past season, maybe better - including at KY, Minn, and St Mary’’s. Princeton and Yale had reasonable SOS also. If I remember correctly, Brown and Penn had sub 300 OOC SOS. Given the talent there, those squads need to pick it up.

Generally, the league missed quality wins - except for Brown over Providence.

Hopefully the Crimson can start stronger next season. I think the coaches learned a lot about how to use the guys as the season went on.

 
Mike Porter 
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03-30-18 02:24 AM - Post#254556    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

Penn's was 249, so certainly bad, but not bottom 30 you're suggesting. Absolutely will be better next year by all accounts and expect Coach Donahue will be back to pre-dark ages SOS on a consistent basis from there.

 
mrjames 
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2018-2019 Schedule News
03-30-18 11:58 AM - Post#254575    
    In response to Mike Porter

Penn's RPI SOS was 293. NCSOS was a little better at 273.

Penn's real SOS slightly better (260) and NCSOS was 249.

But the RPI numbers are on the team sheets and that's likely what landed Penn in the 16 spot.

Harvard's RPI numbers were 152 and 79, for SOS and NCSOS, respectively. KenPom was very similar. Wasn't really any Ivy close to those numbers from an SOS perspective.

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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03-30-18 03:38 PM - Post#254581    
    In response to mrjames

Mike, were these numbers overall?
I know I though Penn’s SOS was lower in late December - right after Delaware St. I recalled Brown an Penn to be the outliers. Probably helped those teams to develop.

 
Mike Porter 
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Re: 2018-2019 Schedule News
03-30-18 03:50 PM - Post#254582    
    In response to mrjames

Right, HDG mentioned out of conference being 300+ so that’s why I posted the 249 from Kenpom for NCSOS. That’s also the only one he team can really control. The conference SOS just is what it is.

I only follow/reference his #s and don’t follow RPI at all until maybe the NCAAs.

 
Mike Porter 
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2018-2019 Schedule News
03-30-18 03:53 PM - Post#254585    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

HDG - I’m sure the SOS was worse after Del State. They were the worst team we played and afterwards our schedule still had Toledo, Temple, and St. Joe’s so wouldn’t make sense to judge at that point until it is a complete picture.

Don’t get me wrong, the NCSOS was still very subpar/weak. I do think it helped the team learn to win after being bad for so long so was totally OK with it this year. Next year looking forward to a more difficult schedule.

 
mrjames 
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03-30-18 03:58 PM - Post#254586    
    In response to Mike Porter

The RPI numbers I pulled were from the selection team sheets, so those were basically the final ones used on Selection Sunday.

I could go back and check the team sheets from that time, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was 300+ right after the Del St game. The only teams left were Toledo, Temple and St. Joe's, which all would have brought that SOS up.

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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03-31-18 01:42 AM - Post#254596    
    In response to mrjames

Makes sense. I don’t have access or ability to calculate, so My OOC SOS snapshot was taken before first Princeton game. Seems Penn’s SOS consists of (a) variable OOC, (b) Big 5, and (c) Ivy League. Big 5 games at tail end surely lifted Penn’s OOC SOS and, ironically, so would in conference schedule.

I assume that if any Ivy wants to build a resume than OOC SOS must be greater than overall SOS.

 
mrjames 
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03-31-18 07:33 AM - Post#254597    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

It’s really hard to build much of a resume without multi-team events, and the stupid Ivy 2-in-4 rule is killer there. That being said, unless something changes with the committee, it’s basically impossible to build a good enough mid-major resume. You need to be perfect from day one, and even our best teams of recent memory (Cornell 2010, Harvard 2012, Harvard 2014, Yale 2016) would have all likely been short.

 
SRP 
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04-02-18 07:11 PM - Post#254671    
    In response to mrjames

Mid-major bids are like heavy machine guns--set on full auto.

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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04-10-18 12:54 PM - Post#255031    
    In response to SRP

Announced this morning that UMass/Harvard series has been extended. Crimson to play in Amherst in 2018-19.

 
mrjames 
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04-10-18 02:05 PM - Post#255037    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

Aside from some potentially interesting, regional mid-major matchups, I think that's the meat of the non-conf schedule for the Crimson next year.

A decent schedule, but not an at large caliber schedule.

 
rbg 
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04-11-18 08:29 AM - Post#255065    
    In response to mrjames

According to a tweet from a writer at The Harvard Crimson, the women's team will open the season against national champion Notre Dame.

Purdue's women's team also posted that Harvard will come to visit on Sunday November 11th.

 
rbg 
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06-29-18 08:54 AM - Post#258339    
    In response to rbg

URI men's team announced its schedule and Harvard will visit the Rams on 11/16/18.

 
digamma 
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07-25-18 12:18 PM - Post#259440    
    In response to rbg

Non-conference home slate is light as expected, two non-D1s and three ok games:

November 6 vs. MIT
November 9 Vs. Northeastern
November 28 vs. Holy Cross
December 22 vs. George Washington
January 6 vs. McGill

 
digamma 
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07-25-18 12:23 PM - Post#259441    
    In response to digamma

Other known games

at UMass 11/13
at URI (noted above) 11/16
at USF 11/21
at St. Mary's on same trip
vs. Mercer in Atlanta 12/29 or 12/30
at UNC Jan 2

 
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