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AsiaSunset 
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03-30-18 09:14 AM - Post#254563    

The women look like they got another good one for the Class of 2018. Sereena Weledji is a 3 time 1st team All Stater from Kansas. Her sister played for Princeton and was part of their senior class this year.

On the men's side, Griff Ryan from New Trier, a 6'5" G/SF, will be a preferred walk on. Not sure what that means as we have a large roster.

 
pennhoops 
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03-30-18 10:35 AM - Post#254569    
    In response to AsiaSunset

Ryan is a D3 player.

 
PennFan10 
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03-30-18 11:38 AM - Post#254572    
    In response to pennhoops

And likely a help to our AI

 
mrjames 
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03-30-18 12:02 PM - Post#254576    
    In response to PennFan10

Yeah... fully expected an AI booster at some point for Penn.

 
Penndemonium 
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03-30-18 02:13 PM - Post#254578    
    In response to mrjames

  • mrjames Said:
Yeah... fully expected an AI booster at some point for Penn.



mrjames, just wondering if that is because

a) Teams always have AI boosters and this is normal
b) Penn's AI has dipped and you could see they need an extra AI boost
c) The rising AI is changing team behaviors and they will use this strategy more

If it is C, that would be a disappointment. I have nothing against decent basketball players with good AI getting accepted into the school, even if they don't get playing time. It would just seem counterproductive and hypocritical approach by the members of the league to raise the AI and then use cosmetic strategies to make it work.

 
PennFan10 
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03-30-18 03:51 PM - Post#254583    
    In response to Penndemonium

a) this is my understanding. Teams have to manage to an average AI so if you take someone near the floor, you need a high AI to average it out.

 
Silver Maple 
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03-30-18 04:05 PM - Post#254587    
    In response to PennFan10

I believe it's not just the team. The entire pool of recruited varsity athletes (excluding football) has to meet a specific average. So sometimes a team will take a high AI kid not because that specific team needs the boost, but because the whole pool needs it.

 
mrjames 
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03-30-18 04:20 PM - Post#254588    
    In response to Silver Maple

Ha - some combination of A and B. Silver Maple is right that the entire athletic dept sans football is averaged to 1 SD away from the mean, so technically one sport could get away with being right at the floor and the others could cover for it.

I have no clue what Penn's basketball AI target is to contribute to the overall pool of non-football athletes, but I would have been stunned if it made it through 2018 without adding an AI booster.

 
Quakers03 
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03-31-18 12:09 PM - Post#254605    
    In response to mrjames

What a ridiculous process.

 
mrjames 
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03-31-18 03:52 PM - Post#254622    
    In response to Quakers03

Agree - and I want it to be clear... I believe every Ivy should do whatever it can within the punitive league rules. To me, there is no nobility in punishing yourself beyond that.

 
Penndemonium 
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04-01-18 12:16 AM - Post#254636    
    In response to mrjames

I'm not questioning the schools for doing what they can within the rules. I'm questioning the purpose in the schools making rules for the league that they each individually intend to circumvent. They could each just as easily make rules they actually want to abide by in both spirit and letter. These aren't NCAA rules - they are rules made by the member ivy schools.

 
mrjames 
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04-01-18 08:46 AM - Post#254638    
    In response to Penndemonium

I don't get this strawman - teams aren't circumventing the rules.

 
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