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Username Post: 2019 Ivy Tournament at Yale?        (Topic#21570)
PennFan10 
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Reg: 02-15-15
06-01-18 11:40 PM - Post#257618    
    In response to sparman

I am pretty sure Steve Donahue actually does like the ILT and didn't originally.

HarvardGrad: You think recruits care if its all inclusive or 4 teams? I think they care a little more than not at all that there is a tournament they can play in at the end of the season and it's on ESPN. Every player thinks they will take their team to the top and make the tournament. What is an added benefit to an Ivy program is the existence of a tournament. Now they get to feel and play like big time programs.



 
SRP 
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Reg: 02-04-06
06-02-18 03:41 PM - Post#257623    
    In response to PennFan10

There is huge peer pressure as well as AD pressure to promote the "brand" and the tournament. Unless one's AD were against the tournament and were also happy about controversy, there would be obvious reasons to bite one's tongue.

 
Chip Bayers 
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Chip Bayers
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Reg: 11-21-04
06-09-18 10:49 AM - Post#257755    
    In response to Streamers

  • Streamers Said:
I've got the solution! Award the ILT to the school at the bottom of the pre-season poll to minimize the chance of HCA.





Bottom of the women’s poll, or bottom of the men’s poll?


 
rbg 
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Reg: 10-20-14
06-22-18 09:44 AM - Post#258143    
    In response to Chip Bayers

I posted a link to in-depth Crimson article on the renovation of Lavietes Pavilion at the Harvard board. I am placing it here, as well, since there is a part of the article that focuses on the Ivy Tournament.

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2018/5/24/c18 -f...

- Another factor that may affect hopes at hosting larger competitions: seating capacity. The current renovated Lavietes Pavilion has downsized from around 2,050 to 1,636 seats in order to facilitate the inclusion of new amenities, such as cushioned seating in the upper rows. The renovated Lavietes Pavilion, with the smallest seating capacity in the Ivy League, now seats 464 fewer people than the next smallest Ancient Eight basketball facility, Dartmouth’s Leede Arena.

With the newly cemented Ivy League Tournament raising discussions about future host sites, the decision to downsize may significantly impact the odds of hosting this tournament on Harvard’s campus. The postseason tournament in its first two years of conception have been played inside the hallowed halls of the Palestra, which seats a maximum of 8,722 people. With the conference final between Harvard and Penn this past season filling around 5,500 seats, it would seem highly unlikely for Lavietes Pavilion to be able to fulfill attendance demand. This was one significant downside, according to Delaney-Smith, of the renovation proposal.

“The one consideration that was negative, was when talking about the Ivy Tournament, the capacity they want facilities to have in order to be a host school,” Delaney-Smith said. “I would say we fall short, and that is upsetting. I don’t know what [is] the right capacity we need to have.” -

It would be interesting to know if that quote from Coach Delaney-Smith came before or after the selection of Yale (2,800 seats) for next year's Tournament. If the league is sticking with conference sites and has gone to a much smaller venue for next year, it would be hard to think they will let a 1,600 seat arena stand in the way. If they did, then they would be avoiding 2 of the 8 schools (Harvard and Dartmouth). In leaving Harvard out of the mix, they would be giving up an event in the conference's third largest city and ticking off one of the most powerful/successful programs (for both men and women) in the league.

 
bradley 
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06-24-18 08:28 AM - Post#258188    
    In response to rbg

If Harvard performs at a very high level over the next two years and Amaker keeps the Crimson program at a very high level, it seems very hard to believe that Robin and crew would deny them home court advantage for a year but who knows what will be the criteria for IvyMadness site selection in the future.

 
PennFan10 
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Posts: 1749

Reg: 02-15-15
06-24-18 08:11 PM - Post#258203    
    In response to bradley

14-0 didn’t matter so I am guessing whatever “very high level” is won’t matter either.

 
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