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Username Post: Ira Bowman to Auburn?        (Topic#21674)
PennFan10 
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07-06-18 02:52 PM - Post#258527    

I have heard this might be a done deal.

https://twitter.com/highfive32/status/101 489181211...

If true, big loss for Penn.

 
Jeff2sf 
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07-06-18 02:58 PM - Post#258528    
    In response to PennFan10

this is perhaps as bad of a time as any but I'd been meaning to ask you. While I'm sure everyone contributes, do we have an assistant that is our primary recruiter? If you were to look at, say, our last 10 recruits, do 7 or 8 come from one guy?

I'm thinking like the way Yanny used to be the primary recruiter for Harvard. Was Ira that? is it more split up?

 
Silver Maple 
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07-06-18 03:13 PM - Post#258529    
    In response to Jeff2sf

It would be a loss, but there's always turnover among assistants, and good head coaches plan for that. If Ira's able to leverage his position at Penn for a high-major assistant job, then good for him. He's been a mensch for the program, both as a player and as a coach, and I wish him nothing but success.

 
Streamers 
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07-06-18 04:25 PM - Post#258530    
    In response to Silver Maple

As we all know, Bruce Pearl, while a good coach, has a tainted recruiting history at several of his previous positions. Presumably, he is keeping it clean at Auburn but Ira would do well to do his due diligence before joining that group.

 
Chip Bayers 
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07-06-18 08:45 PM - Post#258537    
    In response to Streamers

Gotta think this is an opening in for another alum assistant working elsewhere to return. Trice? Jordan? Shawn for example can’t be sure he’s going to survive the upcoming regime change at TU, and he wouldn t have to go house hunting.


 
Stuart Suss 
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07-06-18 09:59 PM - Post#258538    
    In response to Chip Bayers

Official announcement from Auburn.

 
Penndemonium 
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07-07-18 12:11 AM - Post#258539    
    In response to Stuart Suss

Deep thanks to Coach Bowman for being a great player and coach at Penn. I don't doubt that he was a big part of Penn's turnaround. I hope that Donahue has a pipeline of great future assistant coaches!



 
AsiaSunset 
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07-07-18 05:20 PM - Post#258549    
    In response to Penndemonium

Loosing assts to higher paying jobs is part of the landscape. Pennfb lost its QB coach who took the head position at Ithaca. The Defensive line coach just took the top position at Bowdoin.

Ira will always be revered as a great Quaker; however, let’s not pretend he was responsible for the turnaround. Sure - he was part of it and deserves some credit. But - he was also part of the debacle which preceded it.

This is Steve’s team and I’m confident this won’t be a problem for Penn. I also believe this is a logical and probably healthy move for Ira.

 
PennFan10 
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07-09-18 07:26 PM - Post#258589    
    In response to AsiaSunset

Question is who does Stevie D get to replace Ira? A guy like Mike Jordan? My guess is he promotes Mihalich and hires a young guy.

 
Silver Maple 
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07-09-18 07:55 PM - Post#258590    
    In response to PennFan10

Donahue knows how to do his job. I'm sure he has had numerous replacement assistant options in the works for at least a year.

 
PennFan10 
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07-09-18 09:12 PM - Post#258593    
    In response to Silver Maple

I am sure he has thought through Assistant scenarios previously. It’s a matter of who is available (this is late in the cycle) and what he can pay. My guess on promoting Joe is in part because it’s hard to find a top Assitant this late and much easier to find a younger guy. He also has to think Nat Graham will move on soon too.



 
TheLine 
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07-10-18 08:27 AM - Post#258596    
    In response to PennFan10

I have total faith in Donahue. It's far easier to find and hire a talented assistant when you have a rep as being a good guy and not an a-hole. Would be wise to promote Mihalich assuming he's doing a good job - it sends the message that your hard work will be rewarded if you sign up at Penn.

Congrats to Ira Bowman. Hope it all works out at Auburn.


 
PennFan10 
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07-10-18 10:22 AM - Post#258601    
    In response to Jeff2sf

  • Jeff2sf Said:
this is perhaps as bad of a time as any but I'd been meaning to ask you. While I'm sure everyone contributes, do we have an assistant that is our primary recruiter? If you were to look at, say, our last 10 recruits, do 7 or 8 come from one guy?

I'm thinking like the way Yanny used to be the primary recruiter for Harvard. Was Ira that? is it more split up?



Sorry for the delay, didn't see this post originally. My understanding on how staff's recruit is basically "it depends". Coaches divy up the recruiting responsibilities differently. Some do it geographically and others do it demographically. Some have a flat structure where each coach handles their players from start to finish, and some have a hierarchy where a coach sets it up for another coach.

Most staff's have assistants kick the bushes, start the relationship and then involve the head coach in the relationship when the process is further down the line and interest is generated.

I know Ira was responsible for a number of the players on the current roster including Dev Goodman, Jelani Williams, Eddie Scott and Antonio Woods. Pretty sure Ira brought in Bryce Washington as well. Ira was the champion of Darnell Foreman when no one else wanted him and I heard the story that he sold Jerome on Darnell late in the cycle. Nat Graham has been a huge recruiter for Donahue going back to Cornell days. Among other things, he covers the Prep schools where we got AJ, Max, Jackson,etc.

So for Penn it has been balanced with Ira and Nat both bringing in key recruits.


 
T.P.F.K.A.D.W. 
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07-10-18 10:57 AM - Post#258604    
    In response to PennFan10

Interesting. Thanks for the perspective.

I wonder how Ira landed on Bruce Pearl's radar.

 
Streamers 
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07-10-18 11:06 AM - Post#258605    
    In response to T.P.F.K.A.D.W.

  • T.P.F.K.A.D.W. Said:
Interesting. Thanks for the perspective.

I wonder how Ira landed on Bruce Pearl's radar.


I was wondering the same thing.

 
palestra38 
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07-10-18 11:20 AM - Post#258607    
    In response to Streamers

Perhaps this answers the question:

https://hoopdirt.com/harris-adler-departs- auburn-b...

 
T.P.F.K.A.D.W. 
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07-10-18 11:31 AM - Post#258608    
    In response to palestra38

Ira's going to have to convert, isn't he?

 
TheLine 
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Ira Bowman to Auburn?
07-10-18 01:18 PM - Post#258614    
    In response to T.P.F.K.A.D.W.

Besides the Adler connection to Penn, Zack Rosen played on the 2009 Maccabiah team coached by Pearl.

Adler was an assistant at La Salle earlier in his career, as was Joe Mihalich Sr. though I don't think they overlapped.

Sometimes these chance encounters turn into a job. Kind of like how Jerome is an assistant coach for the Celtics.


 
PennFan10 
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07-10-18 04:41 PM - Post#258631    
    In response to TheLine

I am sure Steve Donahue knows Bruce Pearl quite well. If Ira saw the job and asked Steve to call for him, that could easily be how it happened.

 
Penndemonium 
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07-10-18 09:20 PM - Post#258642    
    In response to PennFan10

I hope to see Ira in the head coaching ranks soon. I know nothing about his coaching ability, but I like everything I know about him to date.

 
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