rbg
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05-10-19 09:23 AM - Post#284351
In response to rbg
That same article states that Jerome was due to be sentenced on April 16th.
Has anyone read anything about Allen being sentenced? If not, do people think that the sentencing will be coming up shortly since the Celtics' season is now over?
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palestra38
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05-10-19 10:02 AM - Post#284355
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From the Beating the Dead Horse Dept.
We aren't going to agree on whether he should be expelled/diploma revoked absent evidence he knew of the bribery or cooked the numbers on his tests. I can pretty much guarantee that they won't take such action absent such proof. They don't want a lawsuit and what it would be likely to turn up.
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Go Green
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05-10-19 10:27 AM - Post#284356
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I can pretty much guarantee that they won't take such action absent such proof. They don't want a lawsuit and what it would be likely to turn up.
Then nobody should be shocked if/when this happens again at Penn in a few years.
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palestra38
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Article: Jerome Took Bribes at Penn
05-10-19 10:46 AM - Post#284357
In response to Go Green
This happens every year in the Ivies with all teams, since the ridiculous AI rules almost force teams to recruit players who have no shot at making the court in order to boost the AI. You show me the line that is crossed from the viewpoint of this kid and others who play high school ball and are recruited under the (wink-wink) basis that they "may" play. And look at what is happening to Harvard in the lawsuit against it---the lawsuit is ridiculous, but turns up that Harvard makes exceptions all over the place to objective standards.
Again, if there is evidence that he knew of the bribery or cheated in any way on his application or tests, that is completely different.
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Streamers
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 05-10-19 11:05 AM - Post#284358
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The AI guys get 1 minute on Senior Night and at the end of blowouts.
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TheLine
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05-10-19 11:14 AM - Post#284359
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To paraphrase, it's clear Esformes Jr. was admitted to Penn fraudulently. Those who clearly committed crimes are making their way through the judicial system. Esformes Jr. isn't presently accused of committing a crime. Esformes isn't necessarily an innocent but that doesn't mean there enough evidence to convict him of a crime (those of you who have bothered to keep up with the Mueller investigation should understand there's a difference, excuse me for the non-basketball divergence).
Should Penn pursue anything against Esformes Jr. regardless? As much as I empathize with the hardliners because Esformes Jr is probably not entirely innocent, palestra38 has a salient point. Penn is in a tough spot here without more to go on.
And palestra38's point about AI stuffing is also relevant because that's how Allen was able to get away with an argument that Esformes should be a basketball recruit. It's one of the nasty side effects of our current recruiting process, along with the drying up of the public city high school pipeline. Willie Oliphant is still the last Penn recruit from a Philly public HS, it's not a coincidence that he was just barely pre-AI.
I sincerely hope this is a one-off across all the Ivies but doubt it.
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rbg
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Article: Jerome Took Bribes at Penn
05-10-19 12:06 PM - Post#284363
In response to TheLine
I think most of us are aware of the skills sets for the AI recruits that we see introduced each fall. The coaches (head coaches and assistants) are definitely aware that these recruits are not the most elite athletes on their lists. However, during the trial, I believe Jerome mentioned that his assistants were surprised about Esformes being on the recruiting list.
If they were questioning this, then the student would seem to have been below the athletic standard they hold for their own AI boosting athletes.
Edited by rbg on 05-10-19 12:09 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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palestra38
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Re: Article: Jerome Took Bribes at Penn
05-10-19 12:09 PM - Post#284364
In response to rbg
But he did play HS basketball, unlike the fake crew and fencing situations in the national lawsuit. Again, the fact that Jerome's assistants may have thought this kid below even AI packing par is not a reflection of the kid, but of Jerome.
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Go Green
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05-15-19 11:27 AM - Post#284525
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The Georgetown kid has reportedly sued the school to prevent any negative action against him as a result of the scandal.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/georgetown-stude nt-enme...
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rbg
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Article: Jerome Took Bribes at Penn
06-28-19 10:36 AM - Post#285441
In response to Go Green
I don't believe there is any news on the Allen-Esformes front.
Some interesting Celtics coaching moves over the last few days.
Celtics assistant coach Micah Shrewsberry left to go to Purdue during the off season. This past week, the C's hired Joe Mazzulla and Kara Lawson as assistant coaches. Mazzulla coached at Fairmont State for last last few years and was an assistant for the Celtics' G-League team before that. Lawson is an ESPN analyst who played for Pat Summitt at Tennessee and won titles in the WNBA and Olympics.
With the Celtics now having one more assistant than they did last season, do people who follow pro basketball think the team will keep one extra coach or will someone on the present staff leave/be let go?
Edited by rbg on 06-28-19 10:37 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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DCAJedi
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07-01-19 06:57 PM - Post#285492
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https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article232 1...
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mbaprof
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07-02-19 06:08 AM - Post#285502
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Tough to be an nba assistant under house arrest
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Stuart Suss
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07-02-19 09:01 AM - Post#285509
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This is the sentencing memorandum filed on behalf of Jerome Allen.
It is a document prepared by Jerome's attorneys constituting their official statement of reasons why Jerome should be sentenced to probation rather than to the 4 months of jail time recommended by federal sentencing guidelines.
The PreSentence Investigation Report is a standard document prepared by probation officers in criminal cases, which provides background and biographical information about the defendant, for consideration by the sentencing judge.
Unlike in many cases, Jerome Allen's guilty plea did not include an agreed upon sentence. The prosecutors argued for 4 months' imprisonment. Jerome Allen's attorneys argued for probation. The judge imposed a probationary sentence, restitution in the amount of $18,000 representing the one count to which Jerome Allen pled guilty, and a $202,000 fine representing other moneys illegally received by Jerome Allen that were not specifically included in the guilty plea.
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palestra38
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07-02-19 12:53 PM - Post#285514
In response to Stuart Suss
He got more than probation, however--the article states that he got 6 months of house arrest. Without going to the actual sentence, the term usually used in the law is "home confinement", which can take the form of curfew, home detention and home incarceration, ranging from most mild to most serious. Unless the form of confinement he received is curfew, it is hard to see how he can stay in a role as assistant coach (unless they allow him to serve it all in the off-season).
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Penn7277
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07-02-19 03:11 PM - Post#285525
In response to palestra38
It was just reported on NPR.
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Stuart Suss
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07-02-19 03:41 PM - Post#285530
In response to Penn7277
In the federal system, as in Pennsylvania, house arrest is frequently combined with work release privileges. The defendant is allowed to leave the house during specified hours for work, or for education or for other purposes approved by the court.
It will be interesting to learn how work release is adjusted for an NBA schedule involving day time practices followed by night time games, or for road trips, or for games in Canada. Perhaps, as has been suggested, house arrest will be served in installments, during the off-season, over the course of the four year probationary period.
When bail was set, the bail conditions specifically permitted Jerome Allen to travel to road games and to retain his passport for travel to Canada.
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SteveChop
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07-02-19 06:49 PM - Post#285537
In response to palestra38
The Inquirer article also mentions 600 hours of community service (in addition to the house arrest and probationary time).
I'm not a criminal lawyer so I don't know how that works - does he do it and report it to his probation officer?
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Stuart Suss
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07-03-19 12:09 PM - Post#285551
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Yesterday, Rob Browne at IvyHoopsOnline.com reported the following:
<<Ivy Hoops Online reported early Tuesday morning on Jerome Allen’s sentencing in federal court for accepting bribes from a Florida businessman to place his son on the Quakers’ recruited athletes list. At the conclusion of the article, we noted that Allen’s name was no longer on the online list of Penn Athletics Hall of Fame honorees.
While Allen’s individual Hall of Fame page was still accessible, his name could not be found on the site’s Listing of Hall of Fame inductees by sport.>>
This morning, Jerome Allen's individual Hall of Fame page no longer appears to be accessible.
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Bryan
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07-03-19 01:53 PM - Post#285556
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Article about the case in the Inquirer today.
https://www.inquirer.com/news/jerome-allen-sen tenc...
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section110
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07-03-19 02:51 PM - Post#285560
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Ivy Hoops Online has two articles on it.
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