internetter
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07-23-18 10:12 AM - Post#259270
Spec reports he is leaving, to play with German team
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Chet Forte
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07-23-18 10:40 AM - Post#259275
In response to internetter
This is a full blown disaster of Titanic proportions. I had expected a monster senior year from Meisner. And with only one incoming front court player to boot.
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TheLine
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07-23-18 11:32 AM - Post#259278
In response to Chet Forte
Agree. This sucks if true.
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internetter
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07-23-18 12:08 PM - Post#259285
In response to TheLine
Lo and Meisner are on teams in the same league which will play each other twice, says C AD site.
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rbg
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07-23-18 12:20 PM - Post#259286
In response to internetter
Looks true -
https://gocolumbialions.com/news/2018/7/23/mens-b a...
After her 2016-2017 sophomore year, Psuline Koerner left the women's team. She was born and raised in Germany and is presently playing for BC Winterthur of Switzerland's top women's league.
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Chet Forte
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07-23-18 01:15 PM - Post#259290
In response to rbg
Apparently the coaches were blind sided by this.
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Go Green
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07-23-18 02:12 PM - Post#259301
In response to Chet Forte
Apparently the coaches were blind sided by this.
Dave McLaughlin feels the Columbia coaches' pain.
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AntiUngvar
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07-23-18 05:21 PM - Post#259337
In response to Chet Forte
Chet:
How could the coach(es) be "blindsided"? Or perhaps you meant to write that the coach is blind? This is the FOURTH player who's left the program in the last ten months for reasons totally unrelated to graduation, injury or poor grades:
Andrew Panayiotou; Jaron Faulds; Myles Hanson; and now, Lukas Meisner.
And there's no indication we're done counting, yet.
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Local Observer
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07-23-18 06:25 PM - Post#259340
In response to AntiUngvar
Was anticipating such developments the rationale for extending 40++ offers to high schoolers?
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AntiUngvar
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07-23-18 06:36 PM - Post#259341
In response to Local Observer
That does seem plausible, doesn't it? Or, to use the classic Australian adage: "If you throw enough crap up against a wall, some of it has got to stick!"
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TheLine
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07-23-18 06:53 PM - Post#259343
In response to Local Observer
No, LO. You're dead wrong on this. You've been told not to take that number seriously but you persist. At some point all you're doing is trolling the message board.
BTW - How many recruits do you think TA "offers"?
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Murph
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Re: Meisner 07-24-18 08:12 AM - Post#259361
In response to internetter
That is a shock.
The only thing to do now is put Tape in the middle, surround him with the most athletic guards possible and run, run, run...
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Clyde
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Meisner 07-24-18 09:09 AM - Post#259368
In response to Murph
A quick note on "Offers"
Today's prep basketball players expect to "be offered" by schools, although that doesn't necessarily mean that an offer leads to a roster spot. An "offer" gets posted on social media and it's a big deal but it's not binding. When a D1 scholarship school "offers" a talented HS sophomore, they aren't actually handing the kid a LOI to sign. An "offer" from an Ivy League school to a HS underclassman isn't really anything other a way for the school to show that the kid is of very strong interest, near the top of their list for that class. I don't know what the proper number of offers is for a non-scholarship school. My sibling is a D1 assistant and says that having 10 or more per year is not uncommon. I follow UCLA closely and believe they have about 30 offers for the '19 and '20 HS classes despite only having a few scholarships available for those years.
Edited by Clyde on 07-24-18 09:13 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Chet Forte
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07-24-18 10:33 AM - Post#259371
In response to Clyde
That “40†number covers two years. LO should not throw stones insofar as he lives in a glass house. Shall we count the ways in which Harvard since Amaker has been gaming the system? And by being blind sided, while I am hardly a fan of the current HC, my one source told me that the coaches were surprised that Meisner decided to skip his senior year. In other words, whether they should have surmised this or not, the fact is that they were surprised by it. So Tape has to stay out of foul trouble if possible, Brumant and Nweke have to be productive, Smith has to take another step forward, and our several combo guards should produce at least one productive scorer. I am hoping to see Tai Bibbs step up
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Columbia 37P6
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07-24-18 01:42 PM - Post#259393
In response to Chet Forte
Whether or not Engles should have anticipated Meisner's defection or the transfer of Faulds and Hanson is unimportant. What is crucial is that Engles somehow must find a replacement for one or two of them by November, or the Lions will lack the depth up front to be competitive. Columbia still has some very good pieces, and maybe the Lions will have a decent season after all, but the question now is when will this coaching staff's honeymoon finally end
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AntiUngvar
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07-24-18 02:35 PM - Post#259401
In response to Columbia 37P6
Would love to see 6'11" senior Shane Eberle be that guy. He's had some bad breaks with concussion and other health related issues; but he's a grinder, and sometimes it just requires being given a true opportunity.
Also, I don't believe that Harvard man was throwing stones- that number he cited related to offers may be inaccurate; but it's a high number within the context of the Ivies, even if it references a two year recruiting period.
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rbg
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07-24-18 04:35 PM - Post#259406
In response to AntiUngvar
Eberle is not on next year's roster, so I'm not sure if he is still with the team.
https://gocolumbialions.com/roster.aspx?path=mbbal...
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AntiUngvar
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07-24-18 06:06 PM - Post#259414
In response to rbg
This is just another good example to me of how so little about Jim Engles and his program makes sense- at least to someone who's followed NCAA basketball over the last half-century. You're obviously correct that Shane Eberle's names doesn't appear on the 2018-19 roster; but Joseph Smoyer's name does, and he won't be eligible to play for Columbia till November, 2019 as he's a Portland transfer.
Furthermore, if Eberle's not on the team, wouldn't the protocol be such that a statement be made from the administration about Shane's status- he did do all the work he could as a 3 year varsity team member, and some small statement from the coach would be in order; but Engles has had NOTHING to say about Shane Eberle; consistent with how he's whitewashed the departures of Andrew Panayiotou, Jaron Faulds and Myles Hanson by having nothing to say about them.
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Columbia 37P6
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07-24-18 10:35 PM - Post#259420
In response to AntiUngvar
With Eberle gone, Columbia now has just one center and only two forwards over 6'5" on its entire roster. What the heck is happening?
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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07-24-18 11:03 PM - Post#259423
In response to Columbia 37P6
The foreshadowing was the recruitment of Coyers. Apparently meant to respond to pending departures. Likely known for some time.
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