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Username Post: Around the Patriot League 2018-19        (Topic#21727)
Bison54 
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03-29-19 05:58 PM - Post#283097    
    In response to MrPhillie

IIRC the Bison pep band was not in Oklahoma City, and the Northern Iowa band volunteered to be the BU pep band.


 
Bison54 
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03-29-19 06:05 PM - Post#283098    
    In response to Bison54

https://www.bucknell.edu/x67742

"Bison fans will recall that when Bucknell went to the NCAA Tournament in Oklahoma City in 2005, the pep band was away on spring break and the band from Northern Iowa University generously sat in for the Bison pepsters at the last minute. The Bucknell pep band returned the favor the following year when the Bison returned to the NCAA Tournament in Dallas and played Northern Iowa's fight song."


 
atlantabison 
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Reg: 01-25-06
04-02-19 09:22 AM - Post#283172    
    In response to Bison54

Particularly biting is the last line. It basically says in 23 years when they are back in the tournament they should have this fixed.
Ray Bucknell!


 
Bison137 
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04-02-19 10:42 PM - Post#283196    
    In response to atlantabison

There are a lot of transfers at some of the PL schools this year. Some have already been mentioned, but here is a complete list:

. . Player . College . Pos. . Yr. . Ht. . Wt. . D1 HS Offers

1 . Cameron Fuller . Army . PF . SO . 6-8 . 195 .

2 . Jordan Guest . Boston U . PF . FR . 6-9 . 220 . Denver, Utah St, San Fran, Vermont, American, Lehigh, etc.

3 . Auston Evans . Lafayette . SG . SR . 6-6 . 186 .

4 . Pat Andree . Lehigh . PF . JR . 6-8 . 225 . GWU, W&M, Vermont, American, Holy Cross, etc.
5 . Caleb Bennett . Lehigh . SG . SO . 6-5 . 190 . Northern Iowa, Buffalo, UTEP, ORU, San Jose, etc.

6 . Isaiah Burnett . Navy . SG . SO . 6-5 . 180 .
7 . Kyle Marion . Navy . PG . FR . 6-1 . 177 . Towson, Army, Jacksonville
8 . Daniel Ogele . Navy . SF . SO . 6-7 . 220 . Army, No. Michigan
9 . Josiah Strong . Navy . PG . FR . 6-2 . 187 .
10 . Jaylon Terrell . Navy . SG . FR . 6-3 . 190 .

- - - - -

Comments:

- Guest had been suspended by Boston U at the end of January and hadn't even been on the bench, so his transfer is not surprising. But it is a somewhat significant loss, as he had been playing 15-18 mpg and providing strong rebounding. Likely would have been a two-year starter.

- Lehigh obviously has really been hurt, losing a key starter plus a 20 mpg soph who figured to start next year.

- Navy is losing five players, including three who were in this year's rotation. Strong, Burnett, and Ogele all played about 10 mpg. Ogele actually had the highest rebound rate of Navy's rotation players, and Strong potentially was in line to take over as starting PG with the graduation of Hassan Abdullah. With DeChellis bringing in about seven recruits every year, they still won't have a depth problem - but losing three solid players, along with their top two scorers (Abdullah and Kiernan) will have Navy predicted for the bottom three once again. Not sure who will take over at PG with Strong gone, but it could be a true frosh: Sean Yoder of PA, who had an atypical offer list for a Navy signee - Vermont, Canisius, Colgate, Furman, etc.




 
Bison89 
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04-03-19 10:03 AM - Post#283207    
    In response to Bison137

  • Bison137 Said:
There are a lot of transfers at some of the PL schools this year. Some have already been mentioned, but here is a complete list:

. . Player . College . Pos. . Yr. . Ht. . Wt. . D1 HS Offers

1 . Cameron Fuller . Army . PF . SO . 6-8 . 195 .

2 . Jordan Guest . Boston U . PF . FR . 6-9 . 220 . Denver, Utah St, San Fran, Vermont, American, Lehigh, etc.

3 . Auston Evans . Lafayette . SG . SR . 6-6 . 186 .

4 . Pat Andree . Lehigh . PF . JR . 6-8 . 225 . GWU, W&M, Vermont, American, Holy Cross, etc.
5 . Caleb Bennett . Lehigh . SG . SO . 6-5 . 190 . Northern Iowa, Buffalo, UTEP, ORU, San Jose, etc.

6 . Isaiah Burnett . Navy . SG . SO . 6-5 . 180 .
7 . Kyle Marion . Navy . PG . FR . 6-1 . 177 . Towson, Army, Jacksonville
8 . Daniel Ogele . Navy . SF . SO . 6-7 . 220 . Army, No. Michigan
9 . Josiah Strong . Navy . PG . FR . 6-2 . 187 .
10 . Jaylon Terrell . Navy . SG . FR . 6-3 . 190 .

- - - - -

Comments:

- Guest had been suspended by Boston U at the end of January and hadn't even been on the bench, so his transfer is not surprising. But it is a somewhat significant loss, as he had been playing 15-18 mpg and providing strong rebounding. Likely would have been a two-year starter.

- Lehigh obviously has really been hurt, losing a key starter plus a 20 mpg soph who figured to start next year.

- Navy is losing five players, including three who were in this year's rotation. Strong, Burnett, and Ogele all played about 10 mpg. Ogele actually had the highest rebound rate of Navy's rotation players, and Strong potentially was in line to take over as starting PG with the graduation of Hassan Abdullah. With DeChellis bringing in about seven recruits every year, they still won't have a depth problem - but losing three solid players, along with their top two scorers (Abdullah and Kiernan) will have Navy predicted for the bottom three once again. Not sure who will take over at PG with Strong gone, but it could be a true frosh: Sean Yoder of PA, who had an atypical offer list for a Navy signee - Vermont, Canisius, Colgate, Furman, etc.




My older son has an Naval ROTC scholarship. Until the day that he returned for his sophomore year of college, he could have walked away without any financial commitment to the US Navy. If he quit now, he would have to either 1. Pay back over $120,000 to the Navy, or 2. enlist in the Navy for 5 years (I think). If it is the same for the Naval Academy, I do not know how the sophomore transfers can afford it. Maybe, by playing a D-1 sport, they are exempt from the monetary commitments that come with attending the Academy. Does anybody know?
'RAY FOR THE ORANGE AND THE BLUE!


 
Bison137 
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04-03-19 11:33 AM - Post#283217    
    In response to Bison89

Anyone can walk away from a Service Academy during their first two years and owe nothing. Once they make the commitment for Year 3, then they have to pay back for any further education if they choose to leave later. And the Army/Navy still has the option to make them serve time as a regular enlistee if they choose to.

That is why you see so many transfers who have just completed their second year - and rarely see a junior transfer.




 
Bison89 
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04-03-19 03:08 PM - Post#283230    
    In response to Bison137

  • Bison137 Said:
Anyone can walk away from a Service Academy during their first two years and owe nothing. Once they make the commitment for Year 3, then they have to pay back for any further education if they choose to leave later. And the Army/Navy still has the option to make them serve time as a regular enlistee if they choose to.

That is why you see so many transfers who have just completed their second year - and rarely see a junior transfer.



Thanks for the clarification. It makes sense.
'RAY FOR THE ORANGE AND THE BLUE!


 
Bison137 
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04-03-19 07:20 PM - Post#283252    
    In response to Bison137

  • Bison137 Said:
There are a lot of transfers at some of the PL schools this year. Some have already been mentioned, but here is a complete list:

. . Player . College . Pos. . Yr. . Ht. . Wt. . D1 HS Offers

1 . Cameron Fuller . Army . PF . SO . 6-8 . 195 .

2 . Jordan Guest . Boston U . PF . FR . 6-9 . 220 . Denver, Utah St, San Fran, Vermont, American, Lehigh, etc.

3 . Auston Evans . Lafayette . SG . SR . 6-6 . 186 .

4 . Pat Andree . Lehigh . PF . JR . 6-8 . 225 . GWU, W&M, Vermont, American, Holy Cross, etc.
5 . Caleb Bennett . Lehigh . SG . SO . 6-5 . 190 . Northern Iowa, Buffalo, UTEP, ORU, San Jose, etc.

6 . Isaiah Burnett . Navy . SG . SO . 6-5 . 180 .
7 . Kyle Marion . Navy . PG . FR . 6-1 . 177 . Towson, Army, Jacksonville
8 . Daniel Ogele . Navy . SF . SO . 6-7 . 220 . Army, No. Michigan
9 . Josiah Strong . Navy . PG . FR . 6-2 . 187 .
10 . Jaylon Terrell . Navy . SG . FR . 6-3 . 190 .







Another big transfer showed up today: SF/PF Sam Iorio of American, a 6-6 soph. He was AU's 2nd best player each of the past two years and was one of the two best frosh in the PL in 2017-18. Big loss for AU.




 
Bison89 
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04-04-19 09:38 AM - Post#283260    
    In response to Bison137

Just out of interest, has a PL player ever transferred to another PL school?
'RAY FOR THE ORANGE AND THE BLUE!


 
Bison137 
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04-04-19 11:25 AM - Post#283267    
    In response to Bison89

No, because the PL bylaws - like many league's bylaws - essentially preclude it. Any basketball transfer between PL schools must sit two years before he/she can play again. Until recently, the rules were even more restrictive, i.e. an intra-league transfer could not receive any scholarship money. But that part of the rule has been changed.




 
Bucknellbisonfan21 
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Reg: 11-12-15
04-17-19 06:52 PM - Post#283733    
    In response to Bison137

Pat Andree is transferring to NC State. I can’t see him being able to guard ACC caliber players, he was a bad patriot league defender.

 
Bison137 
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04-17-19 07:45 PM - Post#283734    
    In response to Bucknellbisonfan21

  • Bucknellbisonfan21 Said:
Pat Andree is transferring to NC State. I can’t see him being able to guard ACC caliber players, he was a bad patriot league defender.




Agree 100%. His role will likely be coming in to shoot 3's in certain situations as a stretch four - hoping he makes enough shots to offset his problems on defense.




 
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