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Username Post: Around the Patriot League 2018-19        (Topic#21727)
BisonRoadWarrior 
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11-18-18 04:29 PM - Post#266246    
    In response to jkrun80

Holy Cross beat Siena 57-45 in a game without any made free throws. The teams were a combined 0 for 3.

 
Bison89 
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11-24-18 05:31 PM - Post#266900    
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Lehigh trailing Kansas State 37-35 at halftime. The PL will be tough this year.
'RAY FOR THE ORANGE AND THE BLUE!


 
HuskyColonial 
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11-24-18 06:19 PM - Post#266910    
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I agree. K State pulled away but that was a competitive contest.

 
Bison137 
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11-26-18 08:34 PM - Post#267168    
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Best wins for PL teams thus far this year:

1. Boston U over #99 Northeastern
2. Bucknell over #130 Vermont
3. American over #160 GMU
4. Bucknell over #168 St. Bona




 
MrPhillie 
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Around the Patriot League 2018-19
11-26-18 10:48 PM - Post#267170    
    In response to Bison137

Nice to see Bucknell’s two wins against good opponents. Wonder what are the worst losses by PL teams thus far? (Yes, I’m lazy...I admit.)

Edited by MrPhillie on 11-26-18 10:49 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Bison137 
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11-26-18 11:19 PM - Post#267179    
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OK, here are the worst eight losses. All based on Pomeroy.

Boston U - #262 Drexel
Army - #318 Sacred Heart, #294 UMass Lowell
Lafayette - #308 St Francis (NY)
Loyola - #283 Towson, #270 Detroit
Navy - #329 Morgan State




 
Bison54 
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11-27-18 07:09 AM - Post#267184    
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And the eighth is?

There are three kinds of accountants, those who can count and those who can't

There are 10 kinds of people...those who understand binary and those who don't


 
BisonFan4 
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11-27-18 07:18 AM - Post#267185    
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Bison89 
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12-01-18 07:10 PM - Post#267753    
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Good day for the Patriot League at 6-1.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketba ll/scoreb...
'RAY FOR THE ORANGE AND THE BLUE!


 
Bison89 
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12-05-18 05:13 PM - Post#268148    
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About 25% into the season, the PL is starting to tighten up and looks to be competitive. As per kenpom.com:

140. Lehigh 5-2
141. Holy Cross 6-3
164. Colgate 6-3
178. American 5-2
181. Bucknell 4-3
185. Boston U 6-4
268. Army 4-6
307. Loyola MD 3-5
309. Lafayette 2-5
320. Navy 2-5
'RAY FOR THE ORANGE AND THE BLUE!


 
jkrun80 
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12-05-18 06:36 PM - Post#268152    
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It's hard to tell how good a team we have. The losses to Canisius and especially Fairfield are baffling. The schedule is much less tough than it appeared with St. Bona, Monmouth, & La Salle all struggling. The St. Mary's and Rhode Island games should tell whether this team is for real or not.

Holy Cross and American look much better than I expected. Bucknell and Boston look worse, at least on paper.

 
BisonFan4 
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12-05-18 06:41 PM - Post#268153    
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We'll look alot better on paper after knocking off Ohio State next weekend 😁

 
Bison137 
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12-05-18 07:34 PM - Post#268157    
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  • jkrun80 Said:
It's hard to tell how good a team we have. The losses to Canisius and especially Fairfield are baffling.




They were certainly winnable but I don' t think baffling, given that Sestina was out. Had he played, they easily beat Fairfield and would have had a good shot vs Canisius

One thing is that this team is not that experienced and many are in new roles. Toomer is stepping up as a scorer, which is great, and Sotos needs to find more consistency in terms of creating offense. The frosh hopefully will continue to develop and become bigger contributors and limit the mistakes. Last night the game was won with great shooting, despite a lot of turnovers, a ton of fouls (some bogus), and too many mental errors. They need to improve in these areas.




 
Bison137 
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12-05-18 08:31 PM - Post#268162    
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  • Bison89 Said:
About 25% into the season, the PL is starting to tighten up and looks to be competitive. As per kenpom.com:

140. Lehigh 5-2
141. Holy Cross 6-3
164. Colgate 6-3
178. American 5-2
181. Bucknell 4-3
185. Boston U 6-4
268. Army 4-6
307. Loyola MD 3-5
309. Lafayette 2-5
320. Navy 2-5





The PL in its history has never had more than four teams finish in the top 185. The only comparable year would be 2008 when American, Holy Cross, Lafayette, Colgate, and Navy all finished between 150 and 200 when there were only eight teams. The league overall ranked #21 that year, compared to a current ranking of #20.

There is only year ever when the PL was ranked higher than the current #20, that being 2013 when it ended up 17th thanks to a very strong Bison squad and a good Lehigh one.

Putting the current ranking of #20 into perspective, I think there are 11 high-major conferences - ending with the MVC and the WCC. That leaves 21 mid-major and low-major leagues - with the PL 9th of those 21, right behind the CAA, WAC, Sun Belt and Summit, and just ahead of the Big West, Big Sky, Horizon, and MAAC. PL is way ahead of America East and the NEC.




 
Bison137 
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12-05-18 10:54 PM - Post#268178    
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Other PL games tonight:

- Navy with a nice 15-point win at Delaware, who was having a pretty good season before tonight. Mids had 10 fewer turnovers and got an amazing 53% of available offensive rebounds. (The norm is 28.6%.)

- Lehigh lost to a good Yale team 97-87. Deciding factor was Yale's 43-28 edge in rebounding. LU's two-headed monster at center, 6-9 Karnik and 6-10 Lynch - combined for three rebounds.

- Colgate edged Columbia by two points. Colgate had a 13 point lead with 10 minutes left, then fell behind before rallying to win.

- Loyola led Drexel at the half, but gave up a 17-5 run to start the second half and lost. Andrew Kostecka, who is leading the league in scoring, had 31 points. He originally committed to HC but backed out when Milan Brown was fired. Loyola only had five turnovers, but Drexel had a lot more FT's.

- And finally, LC blown out at UConn.

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NavyVoice 
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12-06-18 05:35 AM - Post#268186    
    In response to Bison137

Navy 17 offensive rebounds in the first half, but only 15 second chance points. Mids shot it much better in the second half and every time Delaware and their great freshmen Horton out of Roselle Catholic, via St. Anthony's, made a run, Navy had an answer. Lots of Freshmen and Soph's contributing for Navy.. Good signs...

Took a year to get administrative help to finally get back on the board!!!

 
Bison89 
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12-06-18 11:39 AM - Post#268204    
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  • NavyVoice Said:


Took a year to get administrative help to finally get back on the board!!!



NavyVoice, welcome back! Post often.
'RAY FOR THE ORANGE AND THE BLUE!


 
bison63 
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12-06-18 04:22 PM - Post#268219    
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Welcome back NavyVoice nee Voice of Navy Sports.

 
bison63 
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12-06-18 05:58 PM - Post#268224    
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Bonnies and VM helping us ascend the kenpom ladder even while idle. Up to 178 today.

 
Bison89 
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12-07-18 08:14 AM - Post#268251    
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  • bison63 Said:
Bonnies and VM helping us ascend the kenpom ladder even while idle. Up to 178 today.



And HC has moved up to first in the PL with a ranking of #141. That's gotta make the HC Faithful happy! (Other than a select few who will start complaining that they are not ranked in the top 100, not scheduling better opponents, not in the BE, can't time warp back to the 1950s, etc.)

Personally, I think that it is good to see HC playing well. Strong teams at HC, Lehigh, and Bucknell make for a fun PL.
'RAY FOR THE ORANGE AND THE BLUE!


 
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