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BisonRoadWarrior 
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12-13-18 04:40 PM - Post#269059    
    In response to Bison89

Holy Cross AD Nathan Pine reportedly taking AD job at Air Force. Isn't that a step up, and hasn't Holy Cross been generally subpar in the Patriot League?
https://twitter.com/jentandg/status/10733 111303811...

 
Bison89 
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12-13-18 04:59 PM - Post#269060    
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BRW, I would consider that a big step up. Air Force has to have a MUCH larger athletic budget. I wonder if Nathan Pine has a military background. As you know well, the military loves to hire their own.
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Bison89 
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12-13-18 05:02 PM - Post#269062    
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I answered by own question. As per Wikipedia, "Pine spent four years at the United States Military Academy from 2005-2008, where he managed all business initiatives for Army and oversight of the external operations areas for athletics."

While not being in the military, Pine has worked for the military in the past. As such, he probably knows the military way of doing things.
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Bison89 
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12-14-18 12:05 PM - Post#269104    
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  • Bison89 Said:
About 25% into the season, the PL is starting to tighten up and looks to be competitive. As per kenpom.com:

140. Lehigh 5-2
141. Holy Cross 6-3
164. Colgate 6-3
178. American 5-2
181. Bucknell 4-3
185. Boston U 6-4
268. Army 4-6
307. Loyola MD 3-5
309. Lafayette 2-5
320. Navy 2-5




Not much movement in the Kenpom.com rankings for the PL teams since the last time that I posted them:

146. Lehigh 6-3 (down 6)
152. Holy Cross 6-4 (down 11)
159. Colgate 4-4 (up 5)
181. Bucknell 4-3 (no change)
182. American 5-3 (down 4)
190. Boston U 6-5 (down 5)
267. Army 5-7 (up 1)
291. Loyola MD 4-7 (up 16)
312. Navy 3-6 (up 8)
316. Lafayette 2-7 (down 7)
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Bison137 
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12-17-18 12:25 PM - Post#269260    
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Pomeroy's current projections for PL records:

Lehigh 12-6
Holy Cross 11-7
Colgate 11-7
Bucknell 11-7
Boston U 10-8
American 10-8
Army 7-11
Loyola 7-11
Navy 6-10
Lafayette 5-13




 
res 
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12-17-18 01:22 PM - Post#269265    
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That's an overall 90-88. I sure hope there's some rounding error in there.


 
res 
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12-17-18 01:25 PM - Post#269266    
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Perhaps Navy is 6-12?


 
Bison137 
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12-17-18 02:10 PM - Post#269276    
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  • res Said:
That's an overall 90-88. I sure hope there's some rounding error in there.




Edit: Now that I look closer, Navy, as you suggested, should be 6-12.






 
Bison137 
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12-17-18 03:20 PM - Post#269291    
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Here are Pomeroy's probabilities of a Bison win in each PL game:


Wed Jan 2 Away . Army 58%
Sat Jan 5 Away . Boston University 42%
Wed Jan 9 Home . Colgate 59%
Sat Jan 12 Home . American 66%
Mon Jan 14 Home . Holy Cross 59%
Sat Jan 19 Away . Lehigh 32%
Wed Jan 23 Home . Loyola MD 82%
Sat Jan 26 Away . American 42%
Wed Jan 30 Home . Navy 86%
Sat Feb 2 Away . Lafayette 69%
Wed Feb 6 Away . Loyola MD 62%
Sat Feb 9 Home . Boston University 67%
Mon Feb 11 Home . Lehigh 57%
Sat Feb 16 Away . Holy Cross 34%
Tue Feb 19 Away . Colgate 34%
Sun Feb 24 Home . Lafayette 87%
Wed Feb 27 Away . Navy 66%
Sat Mar 2 Home . Army 80%




 
jkrun80 
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12-17-18 08:24 PM - Post#269322    
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Up to #227 in the new NET rankings. Colgate is tops in the PL at #137 followed closely by HC at #139.
https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-m en/d1/nc...

 
jkrun80 
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12-19-18 05:23 PM - Post#269484    
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American lost to 1-9 Mt St Mary's last night at home. That's going to drop their ranking quite a bit.

 
Bison137 
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12-19-18 05:56 PM - Post#269485    
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American was missing the starting center Mark Gasparini, who had strep throat, but that’s no excuse to lose to a team that had exactly 0 wins this year against D1 competition.




 
Bison137 
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12-24-18 01:14 PM - Post#270035    
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As we approach the PL portion of the schedule, here is how each PL team ranks in terms of the strength of its OOC schedule:

72 . Bucknell
188 . Holy Cross
193 . Navy
200 . Colgate
235 . Lehigh
276 . Loyola
287 . Lafayette
291 . Army
301 . Boston U
349 . American


Not unexpectedly, Bucknell's SOS is very good. American, otoh, is in the nation's bottom three. Last year, the Bison SOS was #31, which I believe is the strongest it has ever been, and in 2005-06 they ranked #32.




 
Bison89 
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12-24-18 03:26 PM - Post#270048    
    In response to Bison137

I have really enjoyed this year's OOC schedule. I feel that it has been a good mix of high ranking Power Conference and quality mid-major teams. Other than a couple of disappointing games, the Bison have played surprisingly well. They will be ready for the PL season.

GO Bison!
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Bison89 
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12-27-18 02:30 PM - Post#270189    
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Does Lehigh have a new board? The one that I have visited for years has a server error message:

http://www.lehighsportsforum.com/forums/forum/lehi...

Internal Server Error
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Bison137 
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12-27-18 02:50 PM - Post#270190    
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  • Bison89 Said:
Does Lehigh have a new board? The one that I have visited for years has a server error message:

http://www.lehighsportsforum.com/forums/forum/lehi...

Internal Server Error




Try this link:

https://www.lehighsportsforum.com/viewforum.php?f=...


Very little activity except for discussion about their football coaching situation.




 
Bison89 
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12-27-18 03:13 PM - Post#270192    
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137, thank you.

With the PL regular season about to start, the PL teams have a combined record of 57-58 as per patriotleague.org and 6 teams at 0.500 or better. I was wondering: 1. Has the PL ever had an overall winning OOC record, and 2. Have 6 or more teams ever had 0.500 or better records?

http://www.patriotleague.org/standings.aspx?path=m...
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Bison137 
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12-27-18 05:05 PM - Post#270196    
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  • Bison89 Said:
137, thank you.

With the PL regular season about to start, the PL teams have a combined record of 57-58 as per patriotleague.org and 6 teams at 0.500 or better. I was wondering: 1. Has the PL ever had an overall winning OOC record, and 2. Have 6 or more teams ever had 0.500 or better records?

http://www.patriotleague.org/standings.aspx?path=m...




I think the high point in terms of wins and losses came in 2007-08 when the league finished five games over .500 (six if you don't count the NCAA tournament). The champ that year was American and, believe it or not, the worst record (12-19) belonged to Bucknell. The key was that there were no horrible records that year. To make it more impressive, that was the year the PL temporarily banned teams from D2/D3 games.

The previous year, the league finished at exactly .500 - one game above if you ignore the NCAA's. But that record is not as impressive because Lafayette, Lehigh, Army, and Navy all played multiple D2/D3 games.

In no year have six PL teams had .500+ records. And when the league had only eight teams, I am pretty sure that there was no year with five teams at .500+. One thing to keep in mind is that the OOC schedules in the last decade are generally a bit stronger than they were prior to that.




 
Bison89 
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12-27-18 07:16 PM - Post#270200    
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137, thank you! If you aren't a sports reporter or an AD, you should be.

So, it sounds like the PL is having a pretty good season so far. Its gonna be a battle.
New season, new team, new dream . . .


 
HoleinOne 
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12-27-18 09:50 PM - Post#270214    
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If you read the HC Crossports blog, few alumni appear to believe he is doing a positive job. Particularly regarding the biggest sports, football and basketball, few positive comments.

 
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