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Username Post: Around the Patriot League 2018-19        (Topic#21727)
jkrun80 
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12-28-18 11:50 AM - Post#270249    
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  • Bison89 Said:
137, thank you.

With the PL regular season about to start, the PL teams have a combined record of 57-58 as per patriotleague.org and 6 teams at 0.500 or better. I was wondering: 1. Has the PL ever had an overall winning OOC record, and 2. Have 6 or more teams ever had 0.500 or better records?

http://www.patriotleague.org/standings.aspx?path=m...


Six PL teams still have one OOC game to play including some very tough ones.
12/28
Loyola @ NC State
12/29
Colgate @ Pitt
AU @ GW
12/30
Lehigh @ WVU
HC @ Iona
Navy @ Cornell

 
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Around the Patriot League 2018-19
12-29-18 01:29 PM - Post#270292    
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Over at The Athletic*, KenPom provides his computer's most probable regular season conference champs.

Here's his output for the Patriot League, which he ranks as the sixth most-up-for-grabs conference out of 32:

Lehigh: 40%
Bucknell: 30%
Colgate: 28%
Holy Cross: 22%

He notes that last year, his system's top picks were correct in 15 of the 32 races: "After all, we're not predicting with absolute certainty, but assigning probabilities. There's a limit to what we can predict at the end of December."

*The Athletic is a subscription site, but boy is it nice to have no ads at all and no auto-play videos.

 
atlantabison 
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Re: Around the Patriot League 2018-19
12-29-18 04:08 PM - Post#270340    
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120% chance that one of those four will win it?
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Re: Around the Patriot League 2018-19
12-29-18 04:12 PM - Post#270344    
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I do enjoy The Athletic. And it really is quite a reasonable cost.

 
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Re: Around the Patriot League 2018-19
12-29-18 04:16 PM - Post#270347    
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Win or share it.


 
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Re: Around the Patriot League 2018-19
12-29-18 04:18 PM - Post#270350    
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  • atlantabison Said:
120% chance that one of those four will win it?




Just as a guess, maybe he includes the chance of a team being a co-champ. In those cases, two or more teams could each be champion, which would create an overall probability of well over 100%.




 
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12-30-18 12:30 PM - Post#270468    
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As we approach the PL portion of the schedule, here is how each PL team ranks in terms of the strength of its OOC schedule:

72 . Bucknell
188 . Holy Cross
193 . Navy
200 . Colgate
235 . Lehigh
276 . Loyola
287 . Lafayette
291 . Army
301 . Boston U
349 . American


Not unexpectedly, Bucknell's SOS is very good. American, otoh, is in the nation's bottom three. Last year, the Bison SOS was #31, which I believe is the strongest it has ever been, and in 2005-06 they ranked #32.



This site ranks Bucknell's OOC SOS at #62. It is interesting to see some power conference schools in the 100's.

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12-30-18 03:13 PM - Post#270475    
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Lehigh at West Virginia webcast (2 ET tip Sunday)
https://wvusports.com/watch/?Live=2453& type=Li...

 
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12-30-18 05:12 PM - Post#270488    
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WVU pulls away late to win by 10, 78-68.

 
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12-30-18 05:40 PM - Post#270492    
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Good result by Lehigh - but not as good as it might sound. This is not the WVU team of 2016-17 that the Bison took to the wire in the NCAA. That team was ranked #6 nationally (Pomeroy). And it's not the 2017-18 WVU team that ended up ranked #12. This year's WVU team is ranked #50 and lost to URI by 13 points a week before the Bison beat URI. WVU was a 12-point favorite over LU.

Lehigh has been a poor rebounding team all year, and today it cost them. They were outrebounded by WVU 52-25. LU got only 50% of defensive rebounds and only 9% of offensive boards. Otoh, LU entered the game leading the nation in 3-point shooting, and they shot 43% today. When they hit close to 45% on threes, they are very tough.




 
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12-30-18 05:55 PM - Post#270493    
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With all of the OOC games now complete, here is how the PL OOC schedules ranked (Pomeroy):

77 Bucknell
160 Colgate
176 Lehigh
184 Holy Cross
188 Navy
203 Loyola
280 Army
287 Lafayette
309 Boston
347 American




 
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12-30-18 10:18 PM - Post#270530    
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Pomeroy's current projections for PL records:

Lehigh 12-6
Holy Cross 11-7
Colgate 11-7
Bucknell 11-7
Boston U 10-8
American 10-8
Army 7-11
Loyola 7-11
Navy 6-12
Lafayette 5-13




Updated W-L projections for PL games from Pomeroy (carried out to one decimal):

Lehigh 12.2 wins
Bucknell 11.7 wins
Colgate 11.5
Holy Cross 11.5
American 9.7
Boston 9.2
Army 7.1
Loyola 6.4
Navy 5.4
Lafayette 5.4 wins









 
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01-01-19 07:56 PM - Post#270777    
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Hopefully trends mean something. Here are the Pomeroy rankings for each team at the start of December, followed by the ranking at the end of the month. The Bison moved up 66 spots, far better than any other team:

Bucknell 218 to 152; +66 (improvement)
Colgate 182 to 155; +27
Loyola 310 to 293 +17
Holy Cross 156 to 153 ; +3
Navy 317 to 316; +1
Lehigh 141 to 141; unchanged
Army 271 to 276; -5
Lafayette 307 to 315; -8
Boston 205 to 215; -10
American 184 to 205; -21





 
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01-03-19 12:19 AM - Post#270941    
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In other PL games tonight:

- Lehigh nipped Lafayette in Stabler, aided by several questionable calls in the final minutes. Andree had 23 points, and LU played half the game with no center in the lineup.

- American won at home over Boston U by 12 points behind 30 points by Sa'ed Nelson. Both teams shot poorly from behind the arc, but burned it up on twos. Boston hit 25-39 (64%), but was outdone by AU's 28-37 (76%).




 
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01-03-19 09:36 PM - Post#271038    
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Navy up 5 on Colgate with 3 minutes to play.

 
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01-03-19 09:45 PM - Post#271039    
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Navy up 5 on Colgate with 3 minutes to play.



Navy won by 6 (72-66). Crazy PL this year!

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01-03-19 09:45 PM - Post#271040    
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Navy up 5 on Colgate with 3 minutes to play.


Navy wins 72-66.

 
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01-06-19 03:52 PM - Post#271542    
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Navy hit buzzer beater two to top HC 50-48, in a game that while close throughout, was frankly like watching paint dry. So Navy is 2-0, having beaten two “contenders.” Who’da thunk?”

Edited by bison63 on 01-06-19 03:55 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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01-06-19 05:35 PM - Post#271551    
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Home teams are 8-2 thus far.

 
jkrun80 
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01-06-19 07:18 PM - Post#271562    
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American led most of the way at Colgate, but Colgate came back in the last minute to win.

 
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