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Bison137 
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07-24-18 05:50 PM - Post#259412    

The Bison men, as noted before, will be traveling and playing games in Holland, Belgium, and France from August 3rd to August 12th. Team is allowed up to ten days of practice prior to the tour, so it is possible practice has begun. Does anyone have info? Incoming freshmen are allowed to participate under revised NCAA rules.

Based on the past, I imagine they will play about five games. Quality of the opposition is always a question mark as some of the European teams are good - but teams may not have a number of their players available since it is a big vacation month.

Expect to see some daily updates once the trip begins.




 
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Re: Men's European Trip
07-24-18 07:02 PM - Post#259415    
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  • Bison137 Said:
The Bison men, as noted before, will be traveling and playing games in Holland, Belgium, and France from August 3rd to August 12th. Team is allowed up to ten days of practice prior to the tour, so it is possible practice has begun. Does anyone have info? Incoming freshmen are allowed to participate under revised NCAA rules.

Based on the past, I imagine they will play about five games. Quality of the opposition is always a question mark as some of the European teams are good - but teams may not have a number of their players available since it is a big vacation month.

Expect to see some daily updates once the trip begins.


I've seen most of the players on campus at one point or another in the last week. Saw Jimmy Sotos today and Khalil Spear yesterday.


 
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07-24-18 10:24 PM - Post#259419    
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per itinerary they will play four games

i believe quite a few of the guys were on campus during the summer session including the incoming frosh, Sestina who was limited to rehab, Mackenzie, Moore, Toomer, and Newman

i would imagine Sestina's minutes will be limited if he is ready to play at all on the tour, so expect Newman should get a fair amount of game experience

 
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07-31-18 03:26 PM - Post#259777    
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Men's first game is against Amsterdam Apollo on Saturday evening. Amsterdam is in the first division of Holland basketball but last year was not one of the better teams. No idea who will suit up for them on Saturday.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bl6C3l7DfDN/?utm_so urc...




 
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07-31-18 09:40 PM - Post#259791    
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Matt O'Reilly will be blogging about the Bison trip for Midmajormadness.com.

https://twitter.com/mid_madness/status/10 244508804...




 
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07-31-18 10:50 PM - Post#259792    
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BisonVision preview (youtube version)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NZmSQGgWhDQ

 
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08-01-18 06:23 PM - Post#259848    
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Bucknell article on the trip:

http://bucknellbison.com/news/2018/8/1/mens-ba sket...


Game Schedule:
Aug. 4 vs. BC Apollo Amsterdam – 7 p.m. (1 p.m. ET) - Holland
Aug. 7 vs. Ghent Hawks – 8:15 p.m. (2:15 p.m. ET) - Belgium
Aug. 10 vs. Bretigny Select – 7 p.m. (1 p.m. ET) - Paris
Aug. 11 vs. Bretigny Select – 5 p.m. (11 a.m. ET) - Paris




 
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08-02-18 02:14 PM - Post#259871    
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A couple of notes from Nathan Davis' recent newsletter:

1. Both Sestina and O'Reilly are still recovering from surgery. Will go on the trip but won't play. Should be cleared to start playing by mid-August.

2. Eight players spent a significant part of the summer in Lewisburg, including the three incoming frosh. Revised NCAA rules allowed them to spend four hours a week with the coaches on skill development.

3. As noted before, the team was allowed ten practice sessions prior to leaving for Europe.

4. Two fan opportunities the weekend of September 7th and 8th: (a) Annual golf outing on Friday the 7th; and (b) Friends of Bison Basketball Dinner on the 8th at 7 PM, with featured speaker J.R. Holden. There is a football game earlier that day as well.




 
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08-03-18 02:39 PM - Post#259934    
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Pictures etc from first day in Amsterdam:

https://spark.adobe.com/page/g4p0Rjgopmn11/?w =0_99...




 
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Men's European Trip
08-04-18 04:08 PM - Post#259943    
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The Bison blew out an overmatched Apollo Amsterdam team this evening, 94-58. BU scoring: . Ellis 19, Newman 15, Sotos 11, Mackenzie 10, Moore 9, Toomer 7, Funk 6, Robertson 6 (and one ridiculous tip-dunk), Spear 6, Jones 4, Sechan 1. Sotos was 3-4 on threes through three quarters, and Newman was 6-6 for the games.

Bison shot 40.8 FG%, 33.3 3FG% (10-30), 60.4 FT% (26-43).

Funk and Toomer had 4 steals each. Funk also had a team-high 5 assists. Newman had 9 rebounds, followed by Robertson (7) & Spear (6).

As previously mentioned, Sestina and O'Reilly are not playing as they recover from surgery. Due back soon. Also John Meeks suffered a sprained ankle in practice and is currently in a boot. A reliable source says he had been playing very well.






 
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08-04-18 04:11 PM - Post#259945    
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Interview with Paul Newman

Interview with Nathan Davis




 
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08-04-18 05:31 PM - Post#259946    
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Interesting quote from Coach Davis in there: "I feel pretty good there'll be a new three point record for attempts and makes--hopefully, makes--this year."


 
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08-04-18 06:05 PM - Post#259947    
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First blog entry from O'Reilly:

https://www.midmajormadness.com/2018/8/4/17651918/...




 
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08-05-18 04:17 PM - Post#259952    
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Report on Day 3: https://spark.adobe.com/page/oq935knCeMLeW/?w =0_35...




 
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Re: Men's European Trip
08-06-18 09:29 AM - Post#259972    
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  • Bison137 Said:
The Bison blew out an overmatched Apollo Amsterdam team this evening, 94-58. BU scoring: . Ellis 19, Newman 15, Sotos 11, Mackenzie 10, Moore 9, Toomer 7, Funk 6, Robertson 6 (and one ridiculous tip-dunk), Spear 6, Jones 4, Sechan 1. Sotos was 3-4 on threes through three quarters, and Newman was 6-6 for the games.




It is interesting to see that Ellis was the leading scorer. When was the last time that a freshman was the leading scorer in his first game, unofficial or official, for the Bison? I cannot remember one.
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Men's European Trip
08-06-18 09:57 AM - Post#259974    
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Bryson Johnson? hit six threes in his debut iirc, not sure if that made him high scorer without looking, but seems likely

edit: looked it up, he was high scorer for us, but we lost to Mercer as they had game high scorer who dropped 33.

edit2: only other time i recall (again iirc) was Mike Bright dropping 20 in his debut. think that was against d3 Susquehanna and again, just assuming it was likely the game high.

Edited by KenZ on 08-06-18 10:06 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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Men's European Trip
08-06-18 10:01 AM - Post#259975    
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Bryson was the high scorer for Bucknell in his first game against Mercer. I was in the building in Providence.

Edited by JPM on 08-06-18 10:02 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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08-06-18 10:11 AM - Post#259976    
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  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
Interesting quote from Coach Davis in there: "I feel pretty good there'll be a new three point record for attempts and makes--hopefully, makes--this year."



not so sure i like that. glad we have a lot of capable three point shooters, but prefer a balance of inside and outside rather than live and die by the three.

 
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Re: Men's European Trip
08-06-18 10:55 AM - Post#259978    
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  • Bison89 Said:

It is interesting to see that Ellis was the leading scorer. When was the last time that a freshman was the leading scorer in his first game, unofficial or official, for the Bison? I cannot remember one.




If you count preseason scrimmages, Avi Toomer's coach reported that he got 30 points vs Youngstown State - but I can't remember if it was the first or second of the two allowable scrimmages. The other caveat is that scrimmages often go more than four quarters, although I'm sure Toomer played well under 40 minutes himself. However from what I understand, he was not playing vs their starting unit for a lot of those minutes.




 
Bison137 
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08-06-18 11:05 AM - Post#259979    
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Bryson was the high scorer for Bucknell in his first game against Mercer. I was in the building in Providence.




Yes, I was there also. Mercer apparently didn't know Bryson could shoot because they gave him the long threes (4+ feet beyond the arc) for most of the game - and he hit 6 out of 10. For the rest of the season, however, he only hit about 31%, before hitting close to 42% his next three seasons.

One thing that likely would surprise people who weren't there is that two freshmen - Bryson and Willman - played over 25 minutes apiece, while Muscala played only 11 minutes. He ended up with 2 points and 1 rebound in his debut.




 
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08-06-18 12:20 PM - Post#259981    
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  • KenZ Said:
Bryson Johnson? hit six threes in his debut iirc, not sure if that made him high scorer without looking, but seems likely

edit: looked it up, he was high scorer for us, but we lost to Mercer as they had game high scorer who dropped 33.

edit2: only other time i recall (again iirc) was Mike Bright dropping 20 in his debut. think that was against d3 Susquehanna and again, just assuming it was likely the game high.





There was one other somewhat recent one - probably the most impressive. John Griffin debuted with 18 points vs Princeton in the Carrier Dome (Coaches vs Cancer tournament) and didn't miss a shot. In the next game, he had 16 more points and again did not miss.




 
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08-06-18 11:59 PM - Post#259999    
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Day 4 report:
https://spark.adobe.com/page/6Br2f4NFCHS2J/

 
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08-07-18 01:37 PM - Post#260033    
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The second game of the tour is about to start. Temperature hit a near-record 95 degrees in Gent earlier today, and the basketball arena has no AC.

https://twitter.com/Bucknell_MBB/status/1 026880191...




 
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08-07-18 04:10 PM - Post#260047    
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Bison won 107-90, finishing with 16 threes. Mackenzie had 24 points, despite not scoring in the final quarter, followed by Toomer with 19, Newman and Moore 15 each. Sotos had 7 points and 6 assists at the half.

https://twitter.com/Bucknell_MBB/status/1 026921929...




 
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08-07-18 04:44 PM - Post#260050    
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The Bison had an unusual group of fans tonight: Coach Mike Jones and his Radford team. They are also doing a European trip and came to root for son Nate.

https://twitter.com/RadfordMBB/status/102 692524780...




 
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08-07-18 05:24 PM - Post#260057    
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  • Bison137 Said:

Bison won 107-90, finishing with 16 threes. Mackenzie had 24 points, despite not scoring in the final quarter, followed by Toomer with 19, Newman and Moore 15 each. Sotos had 7 points and 6 assists at the half.

https://twitter.com/Bucknell_MBB/status/1 026921929...




More stats:

Mackenzie 24, Toomer 19, Moore 15, Newman 15, Jones 9, Sotos 7, Ellis 6, Funk 6, Robertson 3, Spear 3. Bison hit 16-29 on threes and 23-29 on FT's.

Other leaders: Sotos 7 assists, Ellis 6 rebounds, Toomer/Robertson 2 steals.




 
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08-10-18 04:13 PM - Post#260169    
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The team got a blowout win tonight, 95-61, in the first of two games in Paris.

Ellis had 19 points, Spear 14, and Funk 12. Mackenzie had 14 and 7 assists. Newman with 10 points and 10 rebounds. Late in the game both Ellis and Funk were 4-5 on threes.

Ellis after the game: https://twitter.com/Bucknell_MBB/status/1 027996122...

Coach Davis after the game: https://twitter.com/Bucknell_MBB/status/1 028002110...




 
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08-10-18 04:17 PM - Post#260171    
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Recap of the team's day in Normandy yesterday:

https://spark.adobe.com/page/CebBqX8exNeDE/




 
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08-10-18 06:04 PM - Post#260181    
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Saw a few highlights and while it’s nice to see the guys playing, the competition did not appear to be high quality at all.

 
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08-10-18 07:58 PM - Post#260183    
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Recap of day in Paris and basketball game:
https://spark.adobe.com/page/4pvwTDIPFNxeo/

 
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08-10-18 09:32 PM - Post#260185    
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  • MrPhillie Said:
Saw a few highlights and while it’s nice to see the guys playing, the competition did not appear to be high quality at all.



Yes, not high quality. Many teams traveling to Europe have run into that problem. First of all, it is vacaton time and you have no idea which players will be available. Also many European teams experience a lot of turnover and they may not have a lot of players under contract in mid-summer. Also, I suspect some of the agents responsible for putting together these tours either aren't very good at finding opponents of the right caliber or else they simply lie about the quality of the opponents they have booked.

Maybe BU should have gone to Canada instead (said facetiously). Carleton University recently has beaten U. of Cincinnati (by 19 points), Ole Miss (by 18 points), and South Dakota State, the Summit League favorite, by 62 points! Last year they beat a number of D1 teams, including Alabama, Providence, and Vandy.

There are a number of good things that come out of a European tour, and I think the quality of the games is near the bottom. The ten days of extra practice, the team bonding produced by a trip like this, and the educational value, to me, are all more important than the actual games. Having said that, I'd still like to see a more competitive opponent.




 
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08-11-18 08:37 AM - Post#260187    
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Oh, I totally agree that trips like this have so many positives that quality of competition is not a priority. I look at the victory margins and even the stats as if they played a pickup game in practice, I’m not putting a lot of stock in them. Still, nice to see the new players and how the team is shaping up after losing that incredible senior class.

 
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