Bison89
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09-25-18 03:04 PM - Post#261593
Over on the Lehigh Board, RichH posted that Athlon has the following preseason rankings for the PL:
1. Lehigh
2. Bucknell
3. Boston University
4. Colgate
5. Holy Cross
6. Army
7. American
8. Lafayette
9. Navy
10. Loyola
BTW, I looked for a website but could not find one. Maybe, it is print publication only. If anybody finds a site, please post it.
I feel very good with the Bison losing so much talent but still being ranked this high. On the other hand, the HC faithful are not happy at all that they are returning most of their minutes and points but ranked so low. http://crossports.freeforums.net/thread/2946/athlo...
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jkrun80
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09-25-18 04:27 PM - Post#261601
In response to Bison89
Any updates on Holy Cross's "rumored" discipline issues?
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DrBison
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09-25-18 04:36 PM - Post#261602
In response to jkrun80
No way will we be behind Lehigh in the reg season standings. Of course anything can happen in the tournament.
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Bison137
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2018-2019 PL Preseason Rankings
09-25-18 04:39 PM - Post#261603
In response to jkrun80
Blue Ribbon is the best college yearbook, by far, but is only available by subscription. The PL write-up, btw, is always done by Hooptime. Having said that, I find the pick of Navy for 4th place to be bizarre. They lost three starters, including a 1st team All-PL player from last year. Most people, including me, have them finishing 8th or 9th.
The Blue Ribbon predictions:
1 Colgate
2 Lehgih
3 Bucknell
4 Navy
5 Boston
6 Holy Cross
7 Army
8 Lafayette
9 American
10 Loyola
Their picks for 1st team All-PL are: Will Rayman, Jehyve Floyd, Kimbal Mackenzie, Lance Tejada, and Sa'ed Nelson. Rayman picked for POY and Nic Lynch, the big Lehigh center, FOY.
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Bison137
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09-25-18 04:40 PM - Post#261604
In response to DrBison
No way will we be behind Lehigh in the reg season standings. Of course anything can happen in the tournament.
I hope you're right, but I think Lehigh has the most returning talent by a fair amount. Hopefully Brett Reed will work his coaching magic.
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Bison137
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09-25-18 04:45 PM - Post#261605
In response to jkrun80
Any updates on Holy Cross's "rumored" discipline issues?
Nothing new, but the issues are far more than rumors. Three players from last year - Karl Charles, Jack Stevens, and a walk-on, were thrown off the team late in the season and possibly out of school. The rumors were about the reason. Charles was a significant loss, having started virtually every game since he arrived at HC. Stevens, however, was never going to play.
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Bison137
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09-25-18 04:52 PM - Post#261606
In response to Bison137
Here are the picks of two other publications:
ATHLON
1 Lehigh
2 Colgate
3 Boston
4 Bucknell
5 Holy Cross
6 Army
7 American
8 Lafayette
9 Navy
10 Loyola
All-PL: Mackenzie, Rayman, Tejada, Nelson, Floyd
POY: Rayman
LINDY'S
1 Lehigh
2 Bucknell
3 Boston
4 Colgate
5 Holy Cross
6 Army
7 American
8 Lafayette
9 Navy
10 Loyola
All-PL: Rayman, Tejada, Nelson, Floyd, Petrie (LC)
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bison63
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09-25-18 05:02 PM - Post#261607
In response to Bison137
No way will we be behind Lehigh in the reg season standings. Of course anything can happen in the tournament.
I hope you're right, but I think Lehigh has the most returning talent by a fair amount. Hopefully Brett Reed will work his coaching magic.
That’s a good one, lol!
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Bison137
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09-25-18 05:02 PM - Post#261608
In response to Bison137
Putting the three publications together, you get this:
1 Lehigh 1.33 average
2 Colgate 2.33
3 Bucknell 3.0
4 Boston 3.67
5 Holy Cross 5.33
6 Army 6.33
7 Navy 7.33
8 American 7.67
9 Lafayette 8.0
10 Loyola 10.0
Seems pretty reasonable - except for Navy being ahead of American, because of the Blue Ribbon prediction. If healthy, American looks better than Navy on paper.
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Bison137
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09-25-18 05:22 PM - Post#261609
In response to Bison137
As I mentioned above, Blue Ribbon is a great publication - over 400 pages and intensive write-ups on every team. Also every coach is interviewed as part of the analysis. I definitely recommend it.
There are some interesting comments, including some quotes from Nathan Davis, in their Bucknell write-up. Some excerpts:
- ND: "We should have a number of guys who score between eight and 14 points per game. It's going to be exciting. Our pieces fit together nicely."
- ND: "Bruce is athletic enough to guard every position . . . but he is best at the four. He had to play the three for us much of last season. He will be more effective playing his natural position. . . . He actually has a pretty good post game. You will see more of that from Bruce this year."
- ND: " Nate Sestina is really, really good. He is going to get a chance to showcase what he is capable of doing. He is very, very skilled."
- "Sestina is an above-the-rim type player with strong post moves with either hand. Bucknell's football staff tells Davis that Sestina's size and athleticism would make him an NFL prospect if he changed sports."
- ND: " Kimbal could have been the best shooting guard in the league last season had he not been hurt. He has a chance to have a very special year."
- ND: " Andrew Funk is not a good, but a great shooter, and a good defensive player. I think he is the best player coming into the league. But we will have to see how he fits in. He will have to earn it."
- "Newman reported out of shape as a freshman, setting him back from the start. By the end of the season, though, he was giving Foulland fits with his physical defensive presence in the post. AFter dropping 15 pounds while simultaneously getting stronger in the weight room, Davis expects Newman to come into his own and contribute defense and rebounding off the bench."
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KenZ
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09-25-18 05:43 PM - Post#261610
In response to Bison137
great stuff 137, thanks fo sharing
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jkrun80
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09-25-18 06:41 PM - Post#261612
In response to Bison137
I agree with Coach Davis about the make up of our team. Lot's of potential, especially if the mesh well together.
That said, I'm fine with Lehigh and/or Colgate being picked ahead of us. I have no doubt Brett Reed will "work his coaching magic." LOL
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res
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09-25-18 07:07 PM - Post#261613
In response to jkrun80
That's Dr. Brett Reed, fellows; a Ph.D. in instructional technology with a "cognate in sports administration".
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BisonRoadWarrior
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09-25-18 07:11 PM - Post#261614
In response to Bison137
Here are the picks of two other publications:
ATHLON
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Did you mean a source other than Athlon? The first post was about Athlon and had a different sequence.
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Bison137
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09-25-18 07:52 PM - Post#261615
In response to BisonRoadWarrior
Here are the picks of two other publications:
ATHLON
...
Did you mean a source other than Athlon? The first post was about Athlon and had a different sequence.
No, I just forgot when I was typing them in.
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BisonRoadWarrior
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09-26-18 12:01 PM - Post#261628
In response to Bison137
Sorry, still confused. Will the real Athlon ranking please stand up?
Over on the Lehigh Board, RichH posted that Athlon has the following preseason rankings for the PL:
1. Lehigh
2. Bucknell
3. Boston University
4. Colgate
5. Holy Cross
6. Army
7. American
8. Lafayette
9. Navy
10. Loyola
Here are the picks of two other publications:
ATHLON
1 Lehigh
2 Colgate
3 Boston
4 Bucknell
5 Holy Cross
6 Army
7 American
8 Lafayette
9 Navy
10 Loyola
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Bison137
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09-26-18 12:31 PM - Post#261630
In response to BisonRoadWarrior
Yes, I made it confusing. Actually reversed the Lindy's and Athlon projections. The correct ones are:
LINDY'S
1 Lehigh
2 Colgate
3 Boston
4 Bucknell
5 Holy Cross
6 Army
7 American
8 Lafayette
9 Navy
10 Loyola
All-PL: Mackenzie, Rayman, Tejada, Nelson, Floyd
POY: Rayman
ATHLON
1 Lehigh
2 Bucknell
3 Boston
4 Colgate
5 Holy Cross
6 Army
7 American
8 Lafayette
9 Navy
10 Loyola
All-PL: Rayman, Tejada, Nelson, Floyd, Petrie (LC)
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Bison89
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09-26-18 02:26 PM - Post#261639
In response to Bison137
137 made a mistake??? 
We all have our moments!
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HuskyColonial
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09-27-18 07:24 AM - Post#261652
In response to bison63
Dr. Brett Reed. Very important to note that. Well done.
Edited by HuskyColonial on 09-27-18 07:27 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Bison137
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10-12-18 08:45 PM - Post#262500
In response to HuskyColonial
Here is a good piece by a Boston U writer. I think his prediction of the PL finish is very reasonable. About the only mistakes/omissions are the failure to mention LU's Jordan Cohen, who I think will start at PG, and not knowing the difference between parity and parody.
https://sportswtbu.com/2018/10/12/mens-baske tball-...
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Bison137
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10-13-18 10:36 PM - Post#262518
In response to Bison137
Mid Major Madness Preview
Predicted finish:
1 Lehigh
2 Boston U
3 Bucknell
4 Holy Cross
5 Colgate
6 American
7 Lafayette
8 Army
9 Navy
10 Loyola
Two comments:
1 All of these previews seem to be ignoring the issue of whether Colgate's 6-10 center Rapolas Ivanauskas, who transferred from Northwestern, will be given immediate eligibility by the NCAA. He could make a big difference if eligible and healthy.
2 I will be very surprised if Army finishes as low as 8th. They return their top three players, and nine of their top ten, from a team that was not as bad as their 8th place league finish. They were ranked 6th out of the 10 PL teams by Pomeroy, Sagarin, and the Massey composite ratings, among others.
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jkrun80
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10-14-18 12:03 PM - Post#262540
In response to Bison137
American won't be in the top 6. Lafayette is better than 7th returning two of the top freshman from last year.
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Bison137
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10-14-18 12:22 PM - Post#262543
In response to jkrun80
We'll see, but I think American will be dramatically improved. Last year all of their centers were injured, and they ended up often starting a 6-6 wing at that position. Now they get back Mark Gasperini, a 6-10 PF/C who was one of the league's top three frosh two years ago. Add him to the league's best PG and two good SF's who can score, and there is some talent.
Personally I pick Army for 6th, American for 7th, and Lafayette for 8th. LC has Petrie, who is a great scorer. But they did lose All-PL Matt Klinewski, their best player and only inside presence from last year, plus starter Eric Stafford.
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res
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10-20-18 10:14 AM - Post#263099
In response to Bison137
The initial 2018-2019 kenpom ratings are out.
Lehigh #187
Colgate #205
Bucknell #206
HC #207
About as tight as you can get.
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jkrun80
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10-20-18 10:27 AM - Post#263100
In response to res
The initial 2018-2019 kenpom ratings are out.
Lehigh #187
Colgate #205
Bucknell #206
HC #207
About as tight as you can get.
That will change. We are going to surprise a lot of people.
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BisonFan4
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10-20-18 12:06 PM - Post#263106
In response to jkrun80
Yes we are. I think this is going to be a fun year for Bucknell basketball!
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HuskyColonial
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10-21-18 08:26 AM - Post#263142
In response to BisonFan4
It’ll be fun watching guys take big steps. I look for Avi to have a monster year but I also think Jimmy Sotos will really shine since we won’t be running the offense the same way. Nate can play from the basket unlike Nana so I think the offense will be be fun to watch and defend.
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BisonRoadWarrior
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10-30-18 12:13 PM - Post#263774
In response to HuskyColonial
Did the Colgate player who grabbed Stephen Brown around the neck in the championship game graduate?
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Bison137
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10-30-18 01:20 PM - Post#263790
In response to BisonRoadWarrior
Did the Colgate player who grabbed Stephen Brown around the neck in the championship game graduate?
No. That would be 6-9 center Dana Batt, who is now a senior. His playing time may drop a lot, however, as Colgate's Malcolm Regisford, their starting center as a soph, may be healthy again. More importantly, I hear that 6-10 transfer Rapolas Ivanauskas, who suffered two different shoulder injuries during his two years at Northwestern, has been granted immediate eligibility by the NCAA. If that is so, he may move into the starting center role and make a big difference in Colgate's post game, assuming he is still the same player he was in high school.
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10-30-18 04:02 PM - Post#263818
In response to Bison137
Overgrown Landry Clarke from Friday Night Lights? He freakin killed a guy.
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