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GoBigGreenBasketball 
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10-03-18 09:34 PM - Post#261884    

3MW Ivy League Preview

Welp this preview has us alone at the bottom of their tiered ranking. Hopefully the return of Smith is unaccounted in these early analysis. We have returning players and solid freshmen that could have an impact. I’m not accepting that we will be last in the league.
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HARVARDDADGRAD 
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Re: Ivy Preview courtesey of 3 Man Weave Podcast
10-04-18 10:42 AM - Post#261914    
    In response to GoBigGreenBasketball

Very thorough and well supported analysis. Probably the best one I've ever seen on the Ivy League using analytics and even video to support conclusions.

Big mistake is that Columbia analysis includes Meisner. Wonder if Columbia would still be selected to finish 5th with that correction.

Seems to even have a good handle on incoming freshmen and transfers. Worthwhile read.

Although the analysis doesn't discuss it, the roster presentation shows that Yale, Princeton, Columbia and Penn are the most reliant upon seniors. Other 4 teams much less so.

 
GoBigGreenBasketball 
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Re: Ivy Preview courtesey of 3 Man Weave Podcast
10-06-18 10:47 AM - Post#262075    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

"but at times, his (and the entire team’s) aversion to fouling went too far, not physically challenging opponents enough."

YES!!! this was a major issue last season. Guys afraid to play defense for fear of geeting a foul. If your want better defense coaches have to find a better balance between yanking a player for committing a foul and letting a player give a foul or two.

Coaches need to factor fouling into their strategy. Trying to play a no fouling game is terrible. You'll have players looking to the bench all the time. Avoiding contact to trying to stay in a game. That's Olé defense. Players have to have confidence that one mistake won't send them to the bench. Saw that a lot last year. You cannot play with pace and simultaneously dictate the game from the sideline. There has to be a balance between letting them play with confidence and running the offense and defensive strategy.

Consider the only no foul basketball games are allstar games where no defense is played.
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whitakk 
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10-11-18 11:03 PM - Post#262430    
    In response to GoBigGreenBasketball

Foul aversion also makes it harder to get steals, which is part of why the defensive efficiency has cratered in the last two years.

In Cormier's last year it was brutal how often they fouled on drives on the perimeter, but at least they forced enough turnovers to keep the numbers up overall. Maybe there's a happy medium to be found...

 
GoBigGreenBasketball 
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Ivy Preview courtesey of 3 Man Weave Podcast
10-11-18 11:44 PM - Post#262431    
    In response to whitakk

I think there is a happy medium. It's solid defense. However, in the absence of passable defense, Cromier's aggressive perimeter D was a working alternative.

I can't get to nostalgic since we haven't been a .500 team since before Y2K. But we had guards during the Cormier era that could get up in guys at half court and get steals. But again, you have to have confidence that you can play that type of D and not be benched. our 2-Foul Participation per KenPom was 17.8% vs 20.1% DI Avg. I'd argue that we should be on the other side of the average. Playing our starters a little longer should they pick up that second foul. Like Pomeroy suggests, a player is in foul trouble as soon as they get that first foul if there is an 82.2% chance they'll be benched.

In Cormier's last year here's his 2-Foul Participation: 24.5% VS 20.3% DI Avg. In the year prior he was almost inline with the Avg. In contrast in McLaughlin's first year he was 2-Foul Participation: 9.5% vs 20.1% DI Avg. Maybe it was because it was his first year and wanted to control every aspect of the game. But you're not going to instill defensive confidence if you're yanking players at every foul. Also, you never learn to play with fouls if you come out quickly. Ironically I watched Michigan lose to Villanova last year in part because the coach took key starters out for the first half after getting fouls. I'd argue that that was the turning point of the game. But what do I know...LOL

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Edited by GoBigGreenBasketball on 10-12-18 12:06 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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