GoBigGreenBasketball
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10-11-18 06:14 PM - Post#262423
Ivy League preseason power rankings: Harvard is primed for a return to the NCAA Tournament
The Crimson are good. And not just for an Ivy League team.
Ivy League preseason power rankings
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Go Green
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10-12-18 02:10 PM - Post#262485
In response to GoBigGreenBasketball
Here's hoping that the Dartmouth basketball players make the preseason predictions look as silly as the Dartmouth football players did!
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rbg
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10-25-18 08:33 AM - Post#263440
In response to Go Green
Matt Norlander at CBS Sports has ranked all of the teams in Division 1. Here is where he has the Ivy teams.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/ne ws/...
80. Harvard
The (healthy) return of Bryce Aiken and getting Seth Towns and Chris Lewis back means Tommy Amaker has three of the 10 best players in the Ivy League. After three seasons away, the Crimson should return to the NCAAs -- although that's more of a question now since the Ivy League (unfortunately) went to a four-team tournament to decide its auto bid.
141. Pennsylvania
The Quakers will be a quality Ivy League team, but losing Darnell Foreman and Caleb Wood to graduation is going to be an issue. Juniors A.J. Brodeur or Ryan Betley should get even better -- this team could wind up as the best in the IL ... by March 2020.
174. Yale
As some readers know, I live in Connecticut and am not so far from Yale. So with that in mind, I plan on making the drive to New Haven and watching Miye Oni play this season. The junior is a vintage Ivy League workhorse.
196. Princeton
Jaelin Llewellyn's mix with Princeton's experienced guards is going to be an interesting dynamic. How the team shares the ball with Devin Cannady (best player) may take some time. Tigers figure to be better than last season.
244. Brown
Going to be in almost every Ivy League contest because the Bears return everyone of note, most notably sophomore shooting guard Desmond Cambridge.
258. Cornell
Cornell really took a hit losing stretch 4 Stone Gettings to Arizona. The team's best player is still Matt Morgan, who I think has a chance for Ivy League Player of the Year.
271. Columbia
Junior point guard Mike Smith is the Lion's best chance to spoil predictions and get this team into the top four of the Ivy League.
294. Dartmouth
Ha. And what I wrote directly above this also has to apply to Hanover, New Hampshire's own proud university as well. Dartmouth again will be cellar-dwelling in the Ivy.
(What he wrote directly above Dartmouth was this -
293. Southern Utah
Todd Simon pushes the pace, which can help (and hurt) when the roster lacks length. This university is located in Cedar City, Utah, which I'm sure is a pretty great place to live for all that the environment provides ... but it's also got to be among the 10 most isolated universities in D-I.)
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PennFan10
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10-25-18 09:37 AM - Post#263444
In response to rbg
Nothing new here. I'd like to know Harvard's rank if they are without Towns and/or Aiken. Still the favorite? Still top 100?
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Quakers03
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10-25-18 01:12 PM - Post#263478
In response to PennFan10
Is being without Towns/Aiken in play? Guess I should venture over to the Harvard board...
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palestra38
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10-25-18 01:14 PM - Post#263479
In response to Quakers03
They aren't talking--I commented periodically on their two big players' injuries all summer and got nothing. They are playing it very close to the vest
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PennFan10
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10-25-18 02:06 PM - Post#263502
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I have said they are conspicuous by their absence. Holding them out of pre season scrimmages, etc is indicative of more serious recovery, not players who have been killing it this summer and fall after not playing for 6-10 months. Harvard folks will say they are holding them out for the serious competition. While there is a chance that is true, the little evidence we have says there may still be issues.
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Quakers03
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10-25-18 02:20 PM - Post#263504
In response to PennFan10
We never got ANYTHING after the injury in the Palestra, did we?
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rbg
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10-25-18 02:25 PM - Post#263506
In response to Quakers03
I posted this on the Harvard-BC Scrimmage thread, but figured I would put it here as well....
Last year, I seem to remember that Jon Rothstein would tweet information about Aiken's playing status on Friday afternoons during the Ivy schedule.
With Harvard giving generic answers to their (Aiken and Towns) status, I'm guessing Rothstein would be the media person most likely to know what is going on with those two.
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PennFan10
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10-25-18 02:29 PM - Post#263507
In response to Quakers03
Nothing publicly
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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Ivy League preseason power rankings 10-30-18 04:31 PM - Post#263825
In response to PennFan10
SB Nation just ran a thorough analysis of the Ivy League's respective OOC schedules.
They look from a lot of perspectives, but "Super" scale as follows:
40 Harvard
62 Yale
116 Princeton
146 Penn
208 Cornell
282 Brown
308 Dartmouth
328 Columbia
The article uses as a baseline teams scheduling to their own anticipated pre-season ranking. The analysis concludes that Harvard and Yale 'overscheduled' when compared to their anticipated and historical KenPom rankings, a result that is said to possibly help those squads come March. This analysis concludes that Columbia dramatically underscheduled.
Edited by HARVARDDADGRAD on 10-30-18 04:40 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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rbg
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10-31-18 08:42 AM - Post#263868
In response to HARVARDDADGRAD
Sports Illustrated Rankings:
https://www.si.com/college-basketball/20 18/10/31/c...
1. Harvard #78
2. Yale #112
3. Penn #128
4. Princeton #186
5. Cornell #219
6. Columbia #224
7. Brown #241
8. Dartmouth #283
SI's Molly Geary also list Harvard as her Mid-Major Team to Watch:
https://www.si.com/college-basketball/20 18/10/31/c...
Geary: Harvard. The Crimson came within four points of making the NCAA tournament last March, and that was without Bryce Aiken, the 2016–17 Ivy League Rookie of the Year who missed half of his sophomore season with injury. Aiken was part of coach Tommy Amaker's top-25 recruiting class back in 2016, and that group of juniors is ready to cash in in 2018–19. Aiken is healthy, Seth Towns is back as the reigning conference player of the year and Chris Lewis returns as a double-digit scorer—not to mention Harvard's next five leaders in points per game.
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palestra38
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10-31-18 08:46 AM - Post#263870
In response to rbg
How do all these people know that Towns and Aiken are fully healthy when Harvard releases no information about their injuries?
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Silver Maple
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10-31-18 10:07 AM - Post#263896
In response to palestra38
They don't.
All this gushing over Harvard makes me very happy.
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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10-31-18 10:43 AM - Post#263900
In response to Silver Maple
Yale thread cites Yale student article seemingly confirming that Bruner is healthy and that big things are expected.
SI does the same for Towns and Aiken.
Looks like it's going to be an up year for the League! Hope everyone remains healthy across the league this year.
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mrjames
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11-01-18 07:19 PM - Post#264011
In response to HARVARDDADGRAD
ESPN’s BPI has four Ivies in the top 100 and two more in the top 200 and all within the top 225, because #YOLO.
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PennFan10
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11-01-18 09:59 PM - Post#264018
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On the coaches chat Stevie D talks about the future and the possibility of a 2 bid Ivy. All the coaches were unanimous that the ESPN deal would increase exposure and would lead to higher quality recruits and ultimately a more competitive league nationally. They all clearly believe 2 bid Ivy is a realistic possibility.
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Silver Maple
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11-02-18 08:56 AM - Post#264030
In response to PennFan10
Yes. And soon we'll be living in domed cities and taking food pills.
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palestra38
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11-02-18 09:02 AM - Post#264031
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Soylent Green is people.
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TheLine
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11-02-18 10:59 AM - Post#264042
In response to palestra38
Which Ivy is recruiting Draymond's younger brother?
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