Tiger69
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10-19-18 08:16 PM - Post#263079
In response to AntiUngvar
Never a good sign for a team to be anointed champion even before the season begins. I await H’s collapse. I also like that Princeton is regarded lightly as I believe that, with the addition of its highly regarded freshman guard plus the experience gained by its sophs last year, the team will outperform expectations. I am looking forward to this year’s Ivy race.ðŸ…😈
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Quakers03
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Ivy League Preseason Media Poll 10-20-18 12:00 AM - Post#263092
In response to AntiUngvar
Ivy Champs
Remember when Columbia led Penn at the high school gym 54-50 with 7 minutes to go and then gave up an 18-0 run after one of their players pulled a chicken bleep move thinking he was tough?
Remember when Penn was robbed of the 1-seed by joke fowls at the site of the new tourney?
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AntiUngvar
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10-20-18 12:56 PM - Post#263110
In response to Quakers03
There's absolutely no basis for suggesting the officials robbed anyone in New Haven that night- instead of whining about referees, why not scrutinize SteveDonahue's strategy to begin fouling Yale at a time when his team had momentum and could have/ should have won going away. And I'd ask what the size of Levien Gym or how Penn's victory there last winter should have mattered in assessing them as better than a 16 seed; but, and as the great Chuck Daly essentially told that other Daily Pennsylvanian boy wonder, you don't know what you don't know (and you don't want to know).
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palestra38
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10-20-18 01:25 PM - Post#263112
In response to AntiUngvar
I was an XPN broadcaster, not a DP reporter (my daughter was both a sports reporter and editor for the DP). And while Chuck Daly was right--as a 20 year old, I really didn't know anything about basketball, if YOU knew anything about basketball and/or saw that Penn-Yale game, you knew Penn got jobbed, although I agree with you (and complained about it on the board then)that it was ridiculous to foul and give them a chance to win, instead of just tie with a contested 3. Still, it was an Ivy League tie--the second seed was based on ridiculous seeding rules (you should be seeded higher if you lose to a better team rather than a worse team like Columbia). Anyway, we won last year and did so fair and square. I have no problem with the tournament moving---just not to a high school sized gym that cannot possibly hold the number of people who will want to go. If it is to be played in Connecticut, they should play it at Fairfield or Bridgeport.
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AntiUngvar
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10-20-18 05:08 PM - Post#263121
In response to palestra38
Unacceptable, particularly from someone guilty of fan bias, to casually use words like "jobbed" in relation to game officials. Referees are part of the game, like players and coaches; and are as capable of human error as players and coaches often are.
I don't think Donahue went in to that game in New Haven trying to blow it- though that's precisely what he managed to do.
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PennFan10
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10-20-18 06:55 PM - Post#263127
In response to AntiUngvar
Donahue was coach of the year wasn’t he? The startegy didn’t work but I’ll take him over Amaker as an in game coach every time.
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AntiUngvar
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10-20-18 07:41 PM - Post#263128
In response to PennFan10
I'd say both men you mention (without comparing the two) have compiled impressive bodies of coaching work over a fairly significant time period.
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rbg
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10-31-18 09:14 AM - Post#263881
In response to AntiUngvar
The Harvard Crimson has a recap of the men's coaches round table discussion from last week.
https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2018/10/27/mb b-...
https://ivyleague.com/news/2018/10/23/ivy-l eague-m...
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