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Username Post: Ivy opening at 14th on Kenpom        (Topic#21974)
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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Ivy opening at 14th on Kenpom
12-06-18 11:25 PM - Post#268237    
    In response to Chip Bayers

OK, here we go: Yale at Duke, 5:30 Saturday

Least expensive ticket on Stubhub is $184 (+ fees)


Edited by HARVARDDADGRAD on 12-06-18 11:28 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
PennFan10 
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Reg: 02-15-15
12-06-18 11:37 PM - Post#268238    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

you goin?

 
penn nation 
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Reg: 12-02-04
Re: Ivy opening at 14th on Kenpom
12-06-18 11:37 PM - Post#268239    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

Clearly clamoring to see good competition.

The Ivy League is 2-1 against the ACC heading into this one.



 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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Ivy opening at 14th on Kenpom
12-06-18 11:52 PM - Post#268241    
    In response to penn nation

Saving my ff miles for Harvard at UNC in January.

Who guards Zion? Would have liked to see Zion vs Zena! You reading this Z?

Edited by HARVARDDADGRAD on 12-06-18 11:54 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
SomeGuy 
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Reg: 11-22-04
Re: Ivy opening at 14th on Kenpom
12-08-18 11:55 PM - Post#268372    
    In response to Bruno

With Dartmouth’s win tonight, no Ivy team is in the bottom 100 in Pomeroy. Rising tide.

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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12-14-18 11:26 AM - Post#269106    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

As most Ivy schools approach exams, some Ivy basketball ratings (KP, Torvik) seem to bunch HYP(Penn) in a battle for the top with the bunching being within the advantage given to HCA. Should make for some very exciting contests.

After a gap in the rankings, Princeton and Brown are virtually neck and neck for the 4th spot, with Dartmouth lurking behind, and then a further gap before Columbia and Cornell.

Now that Princeton appears to have Llewellyn, I assume that Princeton will begin to rise. As for Harvard, the same would be true depending on if and when Aiken and Towns return. On the other hand, although Columbia played well in its first game without Mike Smith, it can be expected that the Lions will suffer. I think that makes 4 or 5 anticipated contributors that won't be there for Columbia.

Overall, 2019 is shaping up to be very competitive, with a host of unknowns. One thing we do know is that Yale gets to host the Tournament. As Yale is likely in the running for the regular season title, the impact of holding the Tournament at a participating school could mean that HCA could influence - or dictate - the league's NCAA representative. Wonder how the powers that be will see that situation, or if they will care.

 
Jeff2sf 
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Reg: 11-22-04
12-14-18 09:30 PM - Post#269124    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

they absolutely don't care. they didn't with penn going into the 2nd year (maybe you could argue it was reasonable to think penn wouldn't make tourney 1st year, but last year had to know it was likely and more likely than not wouldn't be 1 seed.)

 
mrjames 
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Reg: 11-21-04
12-15-18 01:59 PM - Post#269158    
    In response to Jeff2sf

Dusted off some code to pull out the best wins from this year - SITE-ADJUSTED. Here they are (Game, Venue, Game Score). (NOTE: Game Score is adjusted regardless of margin to represent what winning by 1 would equal, so this is just the quality of win regardless of margin):

1. Harvard-St. Mary's, A, 92
2. Yale-Miami, N, 89
3. Penn-Miami, H, 81
4. Harvard-UMass, A, 79
5. Penn-Villanova, H, 79
6. Penn-George Mason, A, 60
7. Cornell-NJIT, A, 59
8. Penn-UNI, N, 57
9. Harvard-Holy Cross, 49
10. Penn-La Salle, A, 48


 
PennFan10 
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12-15-18 02:38 PM - Post#269165    
    In response to mrjames

So of the top 10 best wins Penn has 5, Harvard 3, Yale and Cornell 1 each.



 
mrjames 
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Loc: Montclair, NJ
Reg: 11-21-04
12-15-18 03:47 PM - Post#269167    
    In response to PennFan10

Assuming the NET converges to the popular ranking systems, the key numbers to keep an eye on are 83 and 68. That's a decent rule of thumb cutoff for what will be Tier I and Tier II wins.

 
whitakk 
Junior
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Age: 27
Reg: 11-11-14
12-15-18 05:58 PM - Post#269174    
    In response to mrjames

Does Yale get semi-road credit here or is it treated as pure neutral?

 
PennFan10 
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12-15-18 06:14 PM - Post#269176    
    In response to whitakk

KenPom says "semi road"

 
penn nation 
Professor
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Reg: 12-02-04
12-15-18 06:31 PM - Post#269177    
    In response to PennFan10

Big steal and conversion by Temple in OT vs Davidson. That will make Temple's profile even stronger when Penn plays them.

 
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