bradley
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10-25-18 09:37 PM - Post#263515
Jeff Goodman just rated Devin as the #11 shooter in the country in his top 30 shooters nationwide -- only IL representative. Only player on the list that the Tigers will face is Tejeda from Lehigh, #27.
Devin's 3 pt% and FT% % slightly declined last year to 39% and 88% but he developd other parts to his offensive arsenal. He takes so many 3 pt shots and has been getting to the foul line more as he gets to the basket plus at game's end, he is money on the free throw line in a tight game.
Should be interesting if he can raise his one more notch in his senior year. Rebounding was another plus last year.
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AntiUngvar
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10-26-18 10:42 AM - Post#263531
In response to bradley
Columbia's Quinton Adlesh belongs on that list- he's at least in the same class or better than Cannady, at least as far as this particular skill is concerned; and his numbers (which will only get better) back up this non-toxic / fact based assertion!
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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10-26-18 11:10 AM - Post#263535
In response to AntiUngvar
Seth Towns made 3's at a higher percentage than Cannady and at essentially the same rate as Adlesh last season. In conference, Seth was the by far the most accurate at 49.3%. Due to his other skills, Seth's shooting is understandably overlooked.
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jadwinjungle
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10-26-18 11:26 AM - Post#263536
In response to HARVARDDADGRAD
Towns and Adlesh are great 3pt shooters, but both are well behind Cannady in FT%, something he's been tops in the country in his whole career. Based on Goodman's list 3pt shooting wasn't the only stat that factored into the rankings
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AntiUngvar
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10-26-18 12:12 PM - Post#263553
In response to jadwinjungle
If QA were allowed more FGAs, that would result in more FTAs for him, too. Given such a scenario, my opinion is that he'd be at the top of both categories (FTPCT. and 3-PT., FGPCT.), nationally. THE best shooter in 44 years of Levien Gymnasium basketball- again, that's simply my non-toxic view of things.
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palestra38
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10-26-18 12:21 PM - Post#263554
In response to AntiUngvar
If you don't get your shot off, the fact that you shoot great when practicing at center court Levien is rather meaningless. I played for 3 years there during law school and if I may say so myself, I was a helluva shooter. Of course, the competition was suspect.
Cannady is a very very good player whose problem is that he broke down physically last year when asked to do too much with a much reduced front court. Towns is flat out the best player in the league (again, if healthy). QA? A nice player with one good year entering his senior year. Not in the class of the other two.
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AntiUngvar
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10-26-18 01:30 PM - Post#263578
In response to palestra38
Sir, I'm not referencing practice or PeterGreene's Lawyer's League. You can look it up yourself and see that he was in the top 15, nationally, NCAA MEN'S BBALL, 3POINT, FGPCT.
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palestra38
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Devin Cannady 10-26-18 01:40 PM - Post#263580
In response to AntiUngvar
I can see his numbers on collegebasketball-referen ce. They speak for themselves. Limited sample and played on a bad team. He's nowhere near the player that you have compared him with. That's all. ..if he took more shots he would not be in the same statistical category.
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westcoast
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10-26-18 01:46 PM - Post#263582
In response to AntiUngvar
Adlesh shot 68% on Free Throws last year, and is at 65.8% for his career. That is why he was probably not even considered for a list of the Top 30 Shooters in college basketball (the list is not Top 30 3 PT shooters) .
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bradley
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Re: Devin Cannady 10-26-18 02:41 PM - Post#263595
In response to palestra38
Goodman's comments as to selecting top 30 Shooters:
"we did some research, consulted with coaches in every league, pored over the numbers - and even watched some tape. We know there are some guys that can lay claim to inclusion on the list, but here"s Stadium's Top 30 Shooters in college basketball right now in honor of the top shooter in the world, Steph Curry and his jersey number, we are going to go 30 deep".
Obviously both a quantitative and qualitative assessment but I can understand why Cannady is on the list.
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AntiUngvar
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Re: Devin Cannady 10-26-18 05:26 PM - Post#263611
In response to palestra38
I'm not talking "players"- I'm talking "shooters", since Bradley's topic was shooters. Also, QA's had 2 consecutive,solid contributory seasons; his freshman year, you may recall Columbia had really outstanding upperclass guard play that led them to a 25 win season. Also, you call his shot attempts a small sample; but it was large enough a sample for the NCAA to include him among their statistical leaders, so it's certainly big enough for my purposes.
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palestra38
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Re: Devin Cannady 10-26-18 06:56 PM - Post#263620
In response to AntiUngvar
Not when you compare to players with far more shots and better percentages all around.
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AntiUngvar
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Re: Devin Cannady 10-26-18 07:36 PM - Post#263623
In response to palestra38
O.k., thanks. I respect your point of view. Let's see what happens this coming season!
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Tiger69
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Re: Devin Cannady 10-26-18 11:43 PM - Post#263626
In response to AntiUngvar
Amen. These debates can never be settled. Bring on the season and see which TEAMS prevail.
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bradley
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Re: Devin Cannady 10-27-18 09:01 AM - Post#263629
In response to Tiger69
It will be interesting to see if Llewellyn will be able to penetrate and dish to give open looks to Tiger 3 pt shooters including Devin. Jaelin was recently recognized as the #9 top min-major recruit. There were several Europeann players in front of him and some very highly recruited U.S. players.
Devin and Myles have experienced both the high and lows in their Tiger career and based on their charachecter and drive, they will probably be pretty tough this year barring injuries and if they have a good enough supporting cast including Jaelin, a freshmen. Time will tell.
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AntiUngvar
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10-27-18 11:35 AM - Post#263634
In response to bradley
You never saw Bill Bradley play at Princeton, did you?
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bradley
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10-27-18 12:37 PM - Post#263637
In response to AntiUngvar
Sure did therefore my User Name -- simply the best. Never forget the performance against Wichita State for consolation game at the NCAA Tournament for 3rd place -- 58 points on 22-29 FG, 14-15 FT and 17 rebounds. Not sure if IL team will ever make Final Four again but let's dream.
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AntiUngvar
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10-27-18 01:19 PM - Post#263640
In response to bradley
You know the League was represented again in '79. Bet my debate partner, Palestra, was around then and can attest to the fine officiating of the event- at least till Penn ran into Earvin Johnson.
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weinhauers_ghost
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10-27-18 10:45 PM - Post#263664
In response to AntiUngvar
You know the League was represented again in '79. Bet my debate partner, Palestra, was around then and can attest to the fine officiating of the event- at least till Penn ran into Earvin Johnson.
It wasn't just Earvin. Greg Kelser (28 points) also played a significant role in our demise.
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AntiUngvar
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10-27-18 11:10 PM - Post#263665
In response to weinhauers_ghost
Greg Kelser, yes! Bet Magic could have made most of us look good, filling a lane on the break by his side. Imagine that Penn will be acknowledging the 40th anniversary of that team this winter- I know most of those guys are still alive, and wonder what ever happened to Bobby Willis of The Bronx?
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