palestra38
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10-28-18 08:31 AM - Post#263667
In response to AntiUngvar
Boby Willis was at the 40th reunion of the '78 team that went to the Regionals last year (for which I was a broadcaster). He's doing well and I am sure he will return this year when they celebrate that team, along with Tony Price, also from NYC.
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AntiUngvar
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10-28-18 09:42 AM - Post#263669
In response to palestra38
Did you model yourself after anyone as an announcer? (Anyone people may have heard of that is.)
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SomeGuy
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10-28-18 12:01 PM - Post#263670
In response to palestra38
Agree on this. The thing with Cannady in the first half of the Ivy season is that even if you accounted for him all the time, he still could find ways to beat you and get his shot. Adlesh is more in the mold of a lot of very good shooters who come thru the league and will be lights out if you don’t account for them. I’m skeptical of whether it is a question of running more stuff for Adlesh. I think if you ran more stuff for Adlesh, he would actually be easier to control and take away. My impression is that a healthy Cannady is proficient at scoring off schedule, which is part of what sets him apart. And he’s also super tough in the end game, with his ability to get the ball, keep it, get to the line, and make them. Seemed to be tougher for him last year without Weisz to draw attention and handle as well, but he’s still the best closer one the league as far as I’m concerned.
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AntiUngvar
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10-28-18 12:19 PM - Post#263671
In response to SomeGuy
And 7 months ago, you were writing that Adlesh should have been shooting more often?!?????
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SRP
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10-28-18 01:35 PM - Post#263672
In response to AntiUngvar
Cannady had some games last year where opponents tilted the D his way and he got few good looks. Some of that is just the team preferring to take what is given, but some of it was his limitation as a driver in a half-court set. Early in his career, when the Tigers were pushing the ball more, he got more easy looks.
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SomeGuy
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10-28-18 01:51 PM - Post#263673
In response to SRP
I also had the initial impression that people were taking Cannady away in the second half (starting with Foreman blanketing him in Penn II), but there have since been suggestions that Cannady was hurt.
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SomeGuy
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10-28-18 02:03 PM - Post#263674
In response to AntiUngvar
I believe what I said was that the offense would have been more efficient if Adlesh took more of Hickman’s shots. That isn’t antithetical to what I said about Adlesh here, generally. He could become considerably less efficient with more plays run for him and still be more efficient than Hickman.
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AntiUngvar
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10-28-18 02:56 PM - Post#263677
In response to SomeGuy
SG: If QA took Hickman's shots, he'd have had more FGAs than he did. And you're just hypothesizing dire predictions about what he'd do with more shot attempts- you OBVIOUSLY don't know! As for your Cannady skit- seems you're saying he'll ALWAYS find ways to beat you and put the ball in the basket...............unless of course the defense is tilted his way/stacked against him; or someguy's great grandmother's sitting in the last row at Jadwin telling people that Devin's got a bit of a sore throat and can't quite perform tonight.
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SomeGuy
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10-28-18 03:25 PM - Post#263679
In response to AntiUngvar
Well, as I think I’ve made abundantly clear, as a fan of an opponent of both players, Cannady is a guy I worry about a lot more than Adlesh. Maybe Adlesh will prove me wrong this year.
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AntiUngvar
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10-28-18 03:29 PM - Post#263680
In response to SomeGuy
You're a fan of an opponent of both players?
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SomeGuy
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10-28-18 04:03 PM - Post#263681
In response to AntiUngvar
I’m a Penn guy.
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AntiUngvar
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10-28-18 04:06 PM - Post#263682
In response to SomeGuy
And here, I had you pegged as a globalist- my apologies.
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SRP
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10-29-18 01:25 PM - Post#263715
In response to AntiUngvar
Cannady is a much better player than Adlesh to date. I expect that to continue, but who knows?
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AntiUngvar
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10-29-18 03:10 PM - Post#263721
In response to SRP
I value your point, but, again, Bradley's topic was Cannady, as a national level SHOOTER; and my reply to him was about Quinton Adlesh as an equally representative national level SHOOTER.
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10-29-18 08:47 PM - Post#263735
In response to SRP
If reasonably healthy in his senior year, Devin will become the 2nd leading scorer in Tiger BB history, 1st in total 3 pt shots made and probably the highest career FT%. He was a piece of the puzzle in his first two years as the Tigers normally had at least three other legit scoring options on the floor and he played within the system but he made some killer game ending shots along the way, i.e. over the outstretched arm of Jeff Mullins etc. Biggest compliment is that Mitch gave him the attempted game winning shot against ND at the big dance which he will never forget as he thought that he made the shot.
Never a great defender but an improved one and he definitely improved his overall game last year by averaging 5.4 rebounds per game almost all of the defensive end. He also added some offensives moves to his 3 pt shooting especially last year.
Should be interesting how Mitch uses Myles and Devin in their final year.
If three inches taller, post-Tiger career options would be significant based on his ability to 3 pt shoot and leap but he has a post Tiger BB career in front of him in Europe.
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AntiUngvar
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10-31-18 06:05 PM - Post#263930
In response to bradley
Bradley:Congratulations, whether you asked for it or not, you managed to get a lot of mileage out of this topic, and from some unexpected places. Hope the kid and your team exceed all hopes & expectations for the forthcoming season. Bill Bradley -along with Heyward Dotson & Jim McMillian- were special for me, as well. Don't think I'd have ever ventured to apply to the Ivies, if not for them. Still recall John McPhee's, A Sense of Where You Are, coming out when I was in junior high- great stuff!
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palestra38
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10-31-18 07:33 PM - Post#263941
In response to AntiUngvar
McPhee is indeed great--and still going. My daughter interviewed him for an article. I have loved his books for years.
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AntiUngvar
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10-31-18 07:58 PM - Post#263946
In response to palestra38
To anyone wanting to write a first book, John McPhee would be looked at in a way that a struggling, young sports broadcaster in the city of sisterly affection could have once seen Harry Kalas or Richie Ashburn.
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palestra38
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10-31-18 08:11 PM - Post#263948
In response to AntiUngvar
As I grew up in New York in the '60s and early '70s, no one was more of an influence than Marv Albert.
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AntiUngvar
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10-31-18 08:17 PM - Post#263949
In response to palestra38
As imperfect as the rest of us, but talk about standing the test of time!
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