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Username Post: UConn Scrimmage        (Topic#22005)
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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UConn Scrimmage
10-31-18 03:32 PM - Post#263921    
    In response to palestra38

If you read the article you cite, it explains that many schools believe that HIPAA limits their ability to share confidential medical information. Your article suggests that in order to comply with HIPAA the University would need a signed medical release from from the athlete. This article entitles one section: "Our Hands are Tied."

Edited by HARVARDDADGRAD on 10-31-18 03:33 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
palestra38 
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Re: UConn Scrimmage
10-31-18 03:40 PM - Post#263922    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

Keep reading

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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10-31-18 03:47 PM - Post#263924    
    In response to palestra38

I did, and don't see what you seem to.

The article is entitled: "Confusing laws keep information confidential on college campuses"

The exception cited if one reads on is where a university that provides information can whip out a release form signed by a student in order to defend against a claim for a HIPAA violation, if the student has signed one.

Missing your point.

 
palestra38 
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10-31-18 03:53 PM - Post#263925    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

It's that the major programs have a policy requiring the kids to sign a waiver. So we know about Kentucky's injuries. But not only do we not know anything about Harvard's but we have you posting speculative ideas about how HIPPA controls when you have no idea whether it does or does not or what Harvard's institutional policy may be. I can see a kid not wanting to tell an institution about a past injury in the recruiting process when he is seeking a scholarship, but that is not the case in the Ivies. So the only purpose for the utter silence of Harvard is Amaker's attempt to run his program as does Belichick---believing that anything that escapes from the team weakens the team. Frankly, that is a bogus philosophy at this level. I as a fan and supporter of an Ivy program, want to know about an injury that affects the team's prospects---I guess you don't feel that way. But you are simply inventing all your reasons for why Harvard, alone among Ivy teams, provides no information on injuries. You may be right, but I doubt it. Either way, you do not know.

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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10-31-18 04:23 PM - Post#263926    
    In response to palestra38

What is your problem? I am somewhat familiar with HIPAA, which is why I merely pointed out that HIPAA is considered by many to limit a university's ability to disseminate confidential medical information about its students. The article you found, one of many on the topic, confirms that HIPAA does indeed provide limits. Yes, it does explain that a university could obtain a signed waiver, something I initially alluded to.

Oh, and as far as accusing me of making things up, I can confirm that when I asked last year about Aiken's status I was informed that the nature of his injury could not be divulged because to do so would be a HIPAA violation.

This is the Ivy League, not Kentucky. Regardless, as I explained, there appears to be nothing to report. Multiple sources report that Aiken and Towns are healthy. Do you need their medical history? Why?

If you think that protecting the medical confidentiality of a student is the result of some nefarious Belichick like scheme, you're gonna want to seek some professional help. Frankly, I have no idea whether we know the health of Penn's players and don't care. Looks like Towns, Aiken and Bruner are all expected to play. Deal with it.



Edited by HARVARDDADGRAD on 10-31-18 04:25 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
palestra38 
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Re: UConn Scrimmage
10-31-18 04:37 PM - Post#263927    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

Again, you do not know anything about their condition and are making statements about HIPPA that you do not know about. I'm not saying anything personal here, other than you are making up facts and presuming to know the policy which is not an accurate statement. However, I will agree with you that I will have to deal with it....it is just a very paranoid mindset.

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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10-31-18 04:40 PM - Post#263928    
    In response to palestra38

Uh, it's the law.

Oh, and I've handled compliance for genetics companies, including appearing before the FDA and the FTC.

And it's spelled "HIPAA."

 
PennFan10 
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10-31-18 05:39 PM - Post#263935    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

numerous reports that they are fine and healthy and ready to dominate, yet somehow they have yet to appear on a basketball court when we have seen every other Harvard player at least doing layups. They are healthy? Healthy players play in the pre season. There are no restrictions on healthy players. there are often restrictions on players who trainers/doctors/coaches believe will be healthy but are waiting as long as possible to find out. See Makai Mason last year....oops, healthy until proven hurt.

Need another example? When did we find out last year that Tommy McCarthy wouldn't suit up for any game at any point? If you answered "Never" you get a bonus point.

I am not buying what H is selling.



 
palestra38 
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10-31-18 06:31 PM - Post#263940    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

No it's NOT the law---it applies only to Hospitals and physicians. It does not apply to Amaker. So calm down on the hubris.

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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10-31-18 06:51 PM - Post#263945    
    In response to palestra38

It's not that simple.

 
palestra38 
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10-31-18 07:10 PM - Post#263947    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

I'm not the one making incorrect conclusions--you are. I simply don't know what position Harvard is taking on the absolute refusal to disclose injury information or why? All I know is that it is unlike every other Ivy team. So unless I have an explanation, all I can do is ask questions.

 
Old Bear 
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10-31-18 07:22 PM - Post#263950    
    In response to palestra38

I have some pain in my lower back , If I don’t believe it will limet my attendance . I waive my HIppo rights .

 
jadwinjungle 
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10-31-18 11:01 PM - Post#263968    
    In response to Old Bear

While Harvard is certainly being silent on Towns and Aiken, and were on McCarthy last year, I don't think it's fair to say Amaker is the only one doing this. Yale didn't announce Bruner and Mason would be gone for the year until the night before their season opener last year, and I'm sure they knew well in advance of that but didn't say anything until it would be clear that something was up when neither of them played the next day. Henry Caruso just wasn't on the bench for a game at Jadwin in 16-17, and then news broke he was out for the year, and Will Gladson didn't play for a long stretch last year with no real updates.

Don't follow the rest of the league close enough to know for sure, but I feel like various other teams around the league have had players disappear for full seasons with no real fanfare (did Cornell say anything about Wil Bathurst last season, or Dartmouth about Guillen Smith?). It seems like every year there is inevitably at least one piece of news that breaks the night before the opener, and I doubt all of those things happened right then. Here's to hoping that when Tuesday comes around everyone who's supposed to be healthy (and on the team - see Boudreaux) still is

 
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