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Username Post: Macquarie Court?        (Topic#22013)
T.P.F.K.A.D.W. 
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10-30-18 01:47 PM - Post#263799    

What the hell?

https://twitter.com/PennBasketball/status /10573394...

 
palestra38 
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Re: Macquarie Court?
10-30-18 02:04 PM - Post#263802    
    In response to T.P.F.K.A.D.W.

Time to just re-name the school Wharton University and instead of "Let's Go Quakers", we'll chant "Open for Business"

 
penn nation 
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Re: Macquarie Court?
10-30-18 02:10 PM - Post#263804    
    In response to T.P.F.K.A.D.W.

This will go as well as when they renamed the Queensboro Bridge the Ed Koch Bridge or the New Tappan Zee Bridge the Mario Cuomo Bridge.

We'll still just be calling it the Palestra, no matter what the official name is.

I feel sorry for the public address folks who will be force fed a continual stream of MacQuarie and Quaker items. Quite a mouthful.

Edited by penn nation on 10-30-18 02:10 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
palestra38 
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Re: Macquarie Court?
10-30-18 02:17 PM - Post#263805    
    In response to penn nation

The building name has not changed---they just sold the naming rights to the court (and scoreboard, apparently)

 
T.P.F.K.A.D.W. 
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Re: Macquarie Court?
10-30-18 02:18 PM - Post#263806    
    In response to palestra38

What is NOT for sale? Jeez, I'm gonna slap my name on a toilet in Franklin Field.

 
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10-30-18 02:20 PM - Post#263807    
    In response to T.P.F.K.A.D.W.

I get dibs on the trough.


 
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Re: Macquarie Court?
10-30-18 02:22 PM - Post#263808    
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  • palestra38 Said:
The building name has not changed---they just sold the naming rights to the court (and scoreboard, apparently)



If we're going to name the court, I would rather it had been named for a coach or player who has made a significant contribution to the program over its history.


Edited by weinhauers_ghost on 10-30-18 02:22 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
penn nation 
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Re: Macquarie Court?
10-30-18 02:26 PM - Post#263809    
    In response to weinhauers_ghost

Mrs Nation and I honeymooned in Sydney. Macquarie Point is one of the most scenic spots in that very scenic city. Had some lovely walks and picnics there.

Edited by penn nation on 10-30-18 02:26 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
palestra38 
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10-30-18 02:30 PM - Post#263810    
    In response to weinhauers_ghost

And if Bob Weinhauer has a few million to spare, it will be named for him.

 
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10-30-18 03:06 PM - Post#263819    
    In response to palestra38

I know this sort of thing might have been inevitable, but MacQuarie is definitely not my first choice of local firms to get in bed with. Hope this is a short term arrangement.

 
rbg 
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10-30-18 03:16 PM - Post#263823    
    In response to Streamers

If they had just made this the Esformes Court back in 2015, it would have saved everyone affiliated with the program a lot of heartache.

 
palestra38 
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10-30-18 03:23 PM - Post#263824    
    In response to rbg

Ouch.

 
TheLine 
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10-30-18 03:40 PM - Post#263826    
    In response to palestra38

I'm surprised they didn't strike a deal with Hamilton.


 
T.P.F.K.A.D.W. 
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10-30-18 04:01 PM - Post#263827    
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  • rbg Said:
If they had just made this the Esformes Court back in 2015, it would have saved everyone affiliated with the program a lot of heartache.


It's all about ROI. Jerome was MUCH cheaper.

 
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10-30-18 04:19 PM - Post#263830    
    In response to TheLine

Sorry. Much to my regret, the trough was eliminated when the Weiss pavilion was built.

 
jmverlin 
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10-30-18 05:40 PM - Post#263831    
    In response to SteveChop

Fran Dunphy Court has a much better ring to it.

 
palestra38 
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10-30-18 08:01 PM - Post#263834    
    In response to jmverlin

In January 19 (at 5 pm), we should all celebrate the career of Fran Dunphy at the Macquarie Court at the Palestra

 
Ted 
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10-31-18 01:46 PM - Post#263915    
    In response to palestra38

P38 - Will you be changing your handle to "Macquarie38?

 
palestra38 
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10-31-18 01:54 PM - Post#263916    
    In response to Ted

My naming rights are up for auction as we speak

 
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10-31-18 02:48 PM - Post#263920    
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How about Jeff2sf?

 
10Q 
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10-31-18 04:47 PM - Post#263929    
    In response to QHoops

Maybe the penalty box at the Rink can be renamed for Jerome.

 
mbaprof 
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10-31-18 05:06 PM - Post#263931    
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Would be interesting to know how much we sold out for? I assume its a pretty significant amount which can go towards getting this program where we all want it to be, high mid major with a change to do some damage to the brackets


 
SteveChop 
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10-31-18 09:53 PM - Post#263960    
    In response to mbaprof

The article seems to imply that it was for more than basketball - hope that this is at least a 7 figure amount for a number of years.


 
Quakers03 
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Macquarie Court?
10-31-18 10:19 PM - Post#263964    
    In response to SteveChop

We didn't sell out. Just ask Grace. We were just waiting for the right "fit." Thank goodness this great company came along to save the day.

I'd love to know where this money goes to help (haven't practice facilities and the entire sports complex been updated?). Mark me as a cynic, but all I got when reading the story was how this makes good resume fodder for an AD...Are we really that desperate for funds? After a title year no less?

 
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10-31-18 10:23 PM - Post#263965    
    In response to SteveChop

With abject apologies (attended by the obligatory bowing and scraping), I find this to be incredibly offensive: if “branding” is a predicate to “raising the required funds to compete”, why not sell the name of the institution to the highest (or most robustly aggressive) bidder)? Why not festoon the uniforms of the athletes with advertisements? Why not pay athletes for sponsor tattoos? Really, where does one stop and ask “is this too much, in the grand scheme of matters?”. At what point is one’s identity determined by the logo on one’s clothing, in contrast to one’s history? Are we game enough to ask these uncomfortable questions? Knowing arrows (some flaming) might be coming my way, do we really want to stumble, blindly, down this road? Just sayin’

 
omegahouse 
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10-31-18 10:29 PM - Post#263966    
    In response to omegahouse

OK, stated more succinctly: if one is sui generis, why resort to a stunt such as this?

 
10Q 
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11-01-18 07:13 AM - Post#263972    
    In response to omegahouse

Maybe we can fund a couple of extra athletic scholarships.

 
gopenngo 
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11-01-18 12:04 PM - Post#263994    
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"Welcome to Macquarie Stadium at Historic Franklin Field, located in the Macquarie Riverfront Complex."

And, how does one pronounce Macquarie? Does it rhyme with Quackery?

 
gopenngo 
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11-01-18 12:07 PM - Post#263997    
    In response to gopenngo

Is the first "a" similar to the Hah-vard "ah," so it would be Mahckery Court?

 
T.P.F.K.A.D.W. 
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11-01-18 12:36 PM - Post#264000    
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  • gopenngo Said:
Is the first "a" similar to the Hah-vard "ah," so it would be Mahckery Court?


"Welcome to Mockery Court at the formerly historic Palestra, brought to you by Mockery Investments. Penn and Mockery, perfect together!"

 
rbg 
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11-07-18 08:15 PM - Post#264723    
    In response to T.P.F.K.A.D.W.

Penn Athletics has another sponsor, AXIA Time.

According to the article at the DP, Penn alumnus and Penn Lacrosse Hall of Fame inductee John Kanaras founded AXIA Time this year and has quickly become partners with all eight schools in the Ivy League.

Not sure about the other schools, but Penn has created a new name for this weekend's Homecoming football game.

https://www.thedp.com/article/2018/11/penn- athleti...

- AXIA Time will be giving away a watch at select Penn home athletic events throughout the year. The company will have its first giveaway at the Palestra on Friday night during Penn men’s basketball’s home opener against Rice. The next day, another AXIA timepiece will be gifted to a fan at Penn football’s homecoming matchup, now called Homecoming: Presented by AXIA Time, against Harvard.

Furthermore, during some of Penn’s home conference games, the Palestra will have an AXIA Time table, where fans can try on watches from the University Timepieces collections and enter for a chance to win one of their own. -

 
penn nation 
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11-07-18 08:18 PM - Post#264724    
    In response to rbg

Will we have a new poster named Axia Time Sunset?

Candle lighting time's getting quite early this time of year, ya know.

 
gopenngo 
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11-07-18 09:50 PM - Post#264742    
    In response to rbg

I axe ya, at Mockery Court will the offense have to beat a 30 second Timepiece?

 
gopenngo 
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11-07-18 09:53 PM - Post#264744    
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This injury timeout is sponsored by Penn
Orthopedics...

 
weinhauers_ghost 
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11-07-18 09:57 PM - Post#264747    
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  • gopenngo Said:
This injury timeout is sponsored by Penn
Orthopedics...



Make this shot from half court, win a free ACL reconstruction.

 
penn nation 
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11-07-18 10:03 PM - Post#264748    
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Is it just me, or are they rolling out new sponsors at a clip of one per week?

Why has the Ivy League, of all things, capitulated to this corporate nonsense?

 
dperry 
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11-08-18 01:21 PM - Post#264806    
    In response to penn nation

From what I've heard in other fora, Penn Athletics does not get subsidized to the same extent that some of the other Ivies do, so they may need everything they can get.

  • T.P.F.K.A.D.W. Said:
What is NOT for sale? Jeez, I'm gonna slap my name on a toilet in Franklin Field.



The library already beat you to it. Check out the urinals in the bathroom near Rosengarten sometime. I'm not making this up.
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palestra38 
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11-08-18 01:27 PM - Post#264808    
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I wouldn't go to Rosengarten when I attended Penn. Why would I do so now?

I did however, go to the McLelland sub-sub-sub basement to study. That was true purgatory.

 
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11-08-18 02:10 PM - Post#264821    
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  • palestra38 Said:
I wouldn't go to Rosengarten when I attended Penn. Why would I do so now?

I did however, go to the McLelland sub-sub-sub basement to study. That was true purgatory.



My favorite spot was up in the carrels in Furness.


 
T.P.F.K.A.D.W. 
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11-08-18 02:17 PM - Post#264825    
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  • palestra38 Said:
I wouldn't go to Rosengarten when I attended Penn. Why would I do so now?


To see your name on a urinal, duh.

 
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11-08-18 02:18 PM - Post#264826    
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Sharswood Hall for me.

 
palestra38 
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11-08-18 02:26 PM - Post#264829    
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I remember going to the urinals in the basement of Bennett Hall and looking up. It said...

90-47

 
10Q 
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11-08-18 02:48 PM - Post#264835    
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Why were you looking up at such a moment?

 
palestra38 
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11-08-18 03:10 PM - Post#264841    
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I have enough practice that I don't have to look down

 
10Q 
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11-08-18 03:13 PM - Post#264842    
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Wide left

 
gopenngo 
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11-08-18 03:49 PM - Post#264848    
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Don't eat the big white mint.

 
rbg 
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11-12-18 08:17 AM - Post#265272    
    In response to gopenngo

http://www2.philly.com/philly/opinion/commen tary/p...

 
palestra38 
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11-12-18 08:31 AM - Post#265273    
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Howard IS a Luddite. But he is among the 10 greatest living Penn fans.

 
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11-12-18 08:44 AM - Post#265277    
    In response to palestra38

He’s absolutely right about this one, and he makes the point very effectively.

 
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11-12-18 04:59 PM - Post#265304    
    In response to Streamers

Amen

 
Quakers03 
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11-12-18 05:39 PM - Post#265313    
    In response to QHoops

Speaking of this, AJ was on the twitter machine fighting for a very good cause. He makes some strong points. What could they be thinking?

  • Quote:
So @pennathletics sold out Palestra floor, I was part of huge successful fundraising campaign, yet there are budget cuts not allowing @penncheer and @PennBand to stay in hotels on our league games. Only reason band can go is they make own accommodations. Where’s the money going?

Besides the actual teams there’s nothing more “college sports” than band and cheerleaders.. especially since they are among our biggest supporters. Also weird that this is new this year only after we raised all of this money.



 
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11-12-18 06:18 PM - Post#265335    
    In response to Quakers03

1.) Who's AJ?
2.) Link, please?
David Perry
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palestra38 
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11-12-18 07:45 PM - Post#265345    
    In response to dperry

Brodeur

 
palestra38 
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11-16-18 01:52 PM - Post#265846    
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Article on AJ's thoughts today in the Inq:


http://www2.philly.com/philly/sports/college s/penn...

 
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11-16-18 01:58 PM - Post#265847    
    In response to palestra38

A minor clarification to the above: if you go looking in today's paper, it isn't there because it just went online today. Might be in tomorrow's (hopefully it will be, but it's not my decision of course).
"Here will be an old abusing of God's patience, and the king's English."


 
Quakers03 
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11-16-18 02:11 PM - Post#265850    
    In response to DCAJedi

So we still have no idea what actually happened with the band and cheerleaders. It's really all about being there for more women's games? I have to assume some folks in these parts know more.

 
rbg 
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11-17-18 05:33 PM - Post#266138    
    In response to Quakers03

Former AD Steve Bilsky weighs in on the Macquarie Court controversy.

It does not seem that Bilsky approves of Calhoun's decision.

https://www.thedp.com/article/2018/11/steve -bilsky...

Below are some excerpts:

- It is not an exaggeration to say the Palestra court is sacred to legions of former players and fans throughout the Philadelphia region. We all know the storied history that has enabled the Palestra to be referred to as the Cathedral of College Basketball. To place a corporate name on its floor tarnishes that image and detracts from the pureness and spectacle that has made the Palestra experience unduplicated. The Palestra is unlike any other arena in the country and keeping it unique adds to its reputation. -

- I assume that the University’s senior leadership participated in the decision to name Macquarie Court. Since Penn is fortunate to have outstanding senior leaders who do understand and are sensitive to institutional history, it is surprising that, in this case, dollars seemed to outweigh sentiment and tradition.

No one knows more than I do about the challenge of funding an immense enterprise like Penn Athletics and Recreation. In fact, I was approached several times about naming the Palestra floor. Once, a senior University official approached me about a potential donor who was considering making a $25 million gift to Penn, the caveat being it had to include the naming of the Palestra. I admit I was initially tempted, but ultimately told the official that the Palestra was not for sale. -

- The Palestra has hosted more college basketball games than any other arena. Franklin Field was the country’s first two-tiered stadium and the oldest stadium still operating for football games. The Penn Relays is the oldest and largest track and field competition in the United States. We are so lucky that these treasures all belong to Penn.

However, with these blessings come responsibilities. The Palestra court, Franklin Field turf, and Penn Relays name should never be shared with any corporate entity. Otherwise, we’ll be like everyone else. Is this the outcome we desire?

I do not want to see our marketing and advancement efforts handcuffed. I’m sure there are other ways to utilize the Palestra and Franklin Field in revenue enhancement strategies, that don’t come at the expense of cheapening our classic venues. -

 
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11-17-18 09:16 PM - Post#266154    
    In response to rbg

I'm not crazy about this court-naming decision, but I really don't want to hear ANYTHING from Steve Bilksy. If he had a shred of decency, he would just shut up and go away. And if he were standing next to me right now, I would tell him that to his overly tanned face.

 
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