Mike Porter
Postdoc
Posts: 3618
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
Reg: 11-21-04
|
11-26-18 01:22 AM - Post#267010
In response to mrjames
I missed this before but Penn recruit Jordan Dingle played well in close Blair loss to Tilton (85-86). He scored 30 points on 13 of 18 shooting and 4 of 7 from 3. Still not quite sure why he wasn’t more highly recruited but excited to see him at Penn. Bright future for Ivy’s.
|
Penndemonium
PhD Student
Posts: 1899
Reg: 11-29-04
|
11-26-18 03:41 PM - Post#267095
In response to Mike Porter
I just watched Ledlum's video. He looks like a beast of a player. Athletic, skilled, and with a great motor. A great get for Harvard.
I'm wondering why he doesn't seem to have the New England rankings of Max Lorca-Lloyd when he seems to be as good or better player in many dimensions. I realize they don't play the same position. Does anyone who knows NMH hoops well have any comment on the relative impact you expect these two to have in the Ivies?
I'm partly wondering because the Penn fans (including myself) are very excited about Max. Penn has to recruit players of his caliber to become the program we hope for. Penn also needs to out-recruit Harvard over time, however. I'm wondering if Ledlum pretty much negates the recruiting edge of our excellent 2019 class.
I'm not trying to overlook that both can be great, both programs can get benefit, team needs and styles are different, etc. Even one disagrees with this way of looking at it, I think you can still get the point and have thoughts what Ledlum's signing says about 2019 recruiting classes at Harvard and Penn...
|
mrjames
Professor
Posts: 6062
Loc: Montclair, NJ
Reg: 11-21-04
|
11-26-18 07:33 PM - Post#267152
In response to Penndemonium
Adam doesn’t add recruits who are new to the New England Prep scene to his rankings until his winter update. So, for instance, Noah wasn’t added until then last year. Same with Corey in 2015. We should see Chris in there when Adam updates the rankings in December. I’d also expect Max to fall a bit, but I’d be happy to be proven wrong there.
Penn’s class seems to be best that Steve has pulled in since he’s been in Philly and for most of the cycle looked to be the class of the league. But Harvard adding Sakota as a reclass and then Ledlum tipped those scales back.
The most interesting story to me, however, is how efficient Harvard has been with its recruiting recently. If you look at the reason the Crimson dipped after the 2015 season, it was because it had to go small following the bigger 2011 and 2012 classes and it really struck out going small in 2013 and 2014. Sure it saved up a lot of slots for the monster 2016 class, but you can’t get almost zero out of three consecutive classes and live to tell about it. This “going small†stint has been different, though when it comes to yielding stars and guys who can play rotation mins. Every team can nail a seven-person class - as long as you’re recruiting true D1 players, a couple are bound to develop. It’s the hit rate when you can only bring in three or four guys in a class that sustains success. That Harvard has the opportunity now to add a monster class to a core of Djuricic, Kirkwood and Ledlum along with a bunch of other quality players makes the next couple recruiting classes very interesting to watch.
FWIW, I don’t actually think it’s a requirement for Donahue to outrecruit Amaker to win his fair share on the floor. He just needs to be in the ballpark talent-wise.
|
HARVARDDADGRAD
Postdoc
Posts: 2691
Loc: New Jersey
Reg: 01-21-14
|
11-26-18 07:51 PM - Post#267156
In response to mrjames
Thanks Mike for the perspective. Great to see Ivy recruiting generally on the upswing.
Monster class will pay big dividends next season, and hopefully this year if the class gets healthy. Wonder if the established rotation will cause a problem with the next cycle's recruiting.
No one who sees court time is graduating, except for Corey Johnson, who is only playing 11 minutes per game (1.3ppg). That is until Bryce and Seth return.
I believe that Harvard's priority needs to be recruiting the successor to Chris Lewis. Maybe Forbes and Brayboy are just that, time will tell.
|
westcoast
Senior
Posts: 302
Reg: 03-08-16
|
12-10-18 01:23 AM - Post#268447
In response to mrjames
Nice clip here of Ledlum getting blocked at the rim by Princeton commit Keeshawn Kellman, but then coming back in the play to hit a three pointer.
https://twitter.com/nweitzer7/status/1071 574114295...
|
TheLine
Professor
Posts: 5597
Age: 60
Reg: 07-07-09
|
12-10-18 08:48 AM - Post#268458
In response to westcoast
That is a crazy play.
|
mrjames
Professor
Posts: 6062
Loc: Montclair, NJ
Reg: 11-21-04
|
12-10-18 09:18 AM - Post#268460
In response to TheLine
Ledlum had (a record) 51 and 34 in two games at the Scholar Roundball Classic, a week after taking home MVP honors at the Zero Gravity Prep Classic. Noah had a big year for NMH last season, but nothing like this. There’s usually a refresh of the NERR rankings in this timeframe - I don’t know that anyone will unseat Akok Akok as best in New England, but Ledlum is trying his best to do so.
|
Silver Maple
Postdoc
Posts: 3775
Loc: Westfield, New Jersey
Reg: 11-23-04
|
12-10-18 10:04 AM - Post#268468
In response to mrjames
Akok Akok's name gives him an insurmountable advantage.
|
Mike Porter
Postdoc
Posts: 3618
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
Reg: 11-21-04
|
12-10-18 02:32 PM - Post#268501
In response to mrjames
Yeah I've been trying to follow NMH online a little and Ledlum has been ridiculous so hard to see how he doesn't jump to or near to the top of the rankings.
|
HARVARDDADGRAD
Postdoc
Posts: 2691
Loc: New Jersey
Reg: 01-21-14
|
12-17-18 11:42 AM - Post#269259
In response to Mike Porter
Not sure if Maxpreps is correct or up to date, but it shows Ledlum averaging 28.6 ppg and 8.4 rbs for 8-1 NMH. He's scored at least 30 in last 4 games, averaging 38.4 ppg. 57% overall FG%, including 38% on 3's.
|
