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internetter 
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11-03-18 09:34 PM - Post#264158    

It appears it will be on ESPN3.
west coast fan


 
AntiUngvar 
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Re: Marist
11-08-18 10:13 AM - Post#264781    
    In response to internetter

Internetter:
You deserve a response from SOMEBODY/ANYBODY for the fine service you provide- thank you for that, and I'd simply like to add the a man of your clout should endeavor to get the once traditional City College of New York game back on the men's basketball schedule, and as the opening game of the season.


 
rbg 
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11-08-18 10:29 AM - Post#264784    
    In response to AntiUngvar

Should be a good matchup, with the Lions listed as #214 and Marist as #259 at KenPom.

Lions Game Notes:
https://gocolumbialions.com/documents/2018/11/8// G...

Projected Lineup -
Smith, Bibbs, Stefanini, Hunter and Tape

ESPN3:
http://www.espn.com/watch/player?id=8447d 3af-455e-...

Audio:
https://gocolumbialions.com/watch/?Live=14&ty p...

 
Dr. V 
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Re: Marist
11-08-18 10:34 AM - Post#264785    
    In response to internetter

The game notes are up on the CU site. Starters are Tape, Hunter, Stefanini, Bibbs and Smith.

Assuming that Adlesh is not injured, I really like the idea of Q's coming off the bench. His game reminds me a bit of Vinnie Johnson's of the Pistons of yore who was nicknamed "Microwave." High energy, great shooter.

 
AntiUngvar 
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11-08-18 10:39 AM - Post#264787    
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rbg: Thank you. I appreciate the analytic perspective, but Marist played well the other night against a typically hard-nosed Army team, in a game played at West Point:http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketba ll/recap?gameId=401085972

My only question for you, rbg, is whose projected CU lineup is that? Yours?


 
AntiUngvar 
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11-08-18 10:42 AM - Post#264788    
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And now that I've taken the trouble to examine the links you were nice enough to offer, my only question is answered. Thanks again; I do appreciate and benefit your various efforts!


 
cc66 
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11-08-18 12:36 PM - Post#264799    
    In response to AntiUngvar

The starting lineup is, as we expected, small, but quick. Only Tape is above 6'5". Let's just hope Hunter has acquired some offense. Otherwise, we are from the outset going to be playing 4 against 5.

It's also noteworthy that Ellis isn't starting. Although I assume he will cycle through the lineup, we are going with experience to start.

KP has us losing by 1 away. So if we win, it would be a small bump up.

 
Columbia 37P6 
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11-08-18 03:05 PM - Post#264838    
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Hunter averaged 20.9 points per game for a total of 2,250 points in his Florida high school career where he was two time Class 5A High School Player of the Year. He also averaged 6.8 rebounds per game. Even if the competition was not the greatest, anyone who has scored that many points in high school certainly knows how to generate offense. It seems me to that Columbia may have made a mistake the past couple of years trying to convert someone who is clearly a natural forward into a guard. For obvious reasons, that possibility no longer exists. Columbia must use Hunter as a forward. That being the case, there is good reason to believe that Hunter will have an outstanding senior season, to his and the team's great benefit.

 
cc66 
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11-08-18 03:18 PM - Post#264843    
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Yeah, I know about Hunter's offense in HS. That is why I was always mystified by its disappearance in college. He must have led Columbia in airballs last year, certainly in a per minute basis, and even perhaps absolutely. His defense is good, and he rebounds well, so any uptick in his offense would be a major step forward.

 
Columbia 37P6 
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11-08-18 03:33 PM - Post#264846    
    In response to cc66

My guess is that he rarely took an outside shot in high school.

 
RHunter3 
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11-08-18 03:46 PM - Post#264847    
    In response to Columbia 37P6

It totally opposite of that. He took mostly mid range and 3's in high school and on the Nike circuit. He hasn't forgotten how to score.
I will say that confidence is a huge thing and having coaches that believe in you makes a difference. He did score in double figures in both scrimmages.

Edited by RHunter3 on 11-08-18 03:47 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
cc66 
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Re: Marist
11-08-18 04:51 PM - Post#264853    
    In response to RHunter3

That's good to hear. If he can do that during the season, it would provide a big boost to Columbia's fortunes.

 
Chet Forte 
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11-08-18 05:03 PM - Post#264858    
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As far as Hunter, he did get some serious minutes last year and is obviously a superior athlete. My impression is that he was one of several players who became gun shy about looking for their shot because they lived in fear of being pulled off the court whenever they missed a shot. That fear of being pulled snowballs into a lack of confidence when a player does get an open look. Of course, in my heyday in the 1950s I never had any such fear.


 
Chet Forte 
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11-08-18 05:05 PM - Post#264859    
    In response to Chet Forte

PS, I am pleased to see Bibbs in the starting lineup. In limited minutes last season before he was injured he looked like a smooth offensive player.


 
AntiUngvar 
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11-08-18 10:10 PM - Post#264902    
    In response to cc66

CC Six-six: I take it you're a KP guy, and he certainly has a body of work to back his conclusions; but I don't see this as a potentially close one.


 
cc66 
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11-09-18 09:57 AM - Post#264941    
    In response to AntiUngvar

Because we are going to win by a lot, or lose by a lot? Which is it?

 
AntiUngvar 
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11-09-18 10:47 AM - Post#264947    
    In response to cc66

Our man 37P6 has carved out some space for me on the high road- I intend to enjoy the view from there for
another twenty-four hours or so; and I surely don't want to make you feel any worse than I probably already have. I really hope KP knows something more than I do, and he probably does!


 
AntiUngvar 
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11-09-18 12:28 PM - Post#264960    
    In response to cc66

CCSix-six:
Upon further review, I may owe you a better answer than was just submitted, and it's safe enough to state the following: I'm a proponent of the once traditional City College of New York game that for a long time marked the start of the CU's basketball season. In this day and age, the game can be played as part of a doubleheader (CCNY does have a women's team).
It's a good way to generate some good will with our neighbors- something that enough of hasn't been done since even before you were a ColumbiaCollege student. City College benefits greatly in playing both mens and women's division -1 opponents without incurring any travel expenditures. Of course, CU gets something out this arrangement, too- an excellent vehicle for incorporating three new starting players; your lineup congeals perhaps bit faster in a less stressful setting; and if your really going to take your best outside shooter (in fact, one of the best three point shooters in the nation) and bring him into the game as a substitute, this may be a better way of finding out how he responds to such a new routine, having been a starting player for the better part of the last two full seasons- it's probably nice to imagine that you'll be getting a new Vinny Johnson; though you may find out you're actually getting Dr. Vinnie Boombatz (A.K.A., Rodney Dangerfield's longtime physician): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stUZ5Ehfo28


 
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11-10-18 09:17 PM - Post#265180    
    In response to AntiUngvar

Lost, 76-82
Tape hurt his knee in practice, didn't play.
west coast fan


 
AntiUngvar 
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11-10-18 09:20 PM - Post#265181    
    In response to cc66

CC: Glad to see the game tonight in Poughkeepsie was much closer than I anticipated, and, admittedly, Mike Smith played a complete game, leading to a stellar performance. There was definitely reason for CU fans to ;eave feeling optimistic about what they saw out there- in fact, I doubt CU's ever had a freshman, playing in his first outing, start and put in 17 points while grabbing 7 rebounds. Hope you enjoyed it, too!


 
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