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Bison137 
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11-14-18 07:09 PM - Post#265623    

The early signing period for basketball started today and runs eight days. Thus far I've seen signing info for the following:

- Alex Timmerman: https://twitter.com/NBCSPreps/status/1062 838838412...

I hope they are right in listing him at 6-9.

- Jake van der Heijden: https://twitter.com/RavensAthletics/statu s/1062762...

Still waiting to see something on Alex Rice and Malachi Rhodes.


And on the women's side:

- Tai Johnson: https://twitter.com/FightnPlanets/status/ 106279757...

- Emma Shaffer: https://twitter.com/UA_BBALL/status/10624 830214362...

Still waiting for something on PF Carly Krsul and wing Brooke Mullin.




 
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11-15-18 10:54 AM - Post#265687    
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Brooe Mullin signed

https://mobile.twitter.com/onecentpct/status/106 30...

 
Bison137 
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11-15-18 02:30 PM - Post#265715    
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All four women officially signed:

https://twitter.com/Bucknell_WBB




 
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11-15-18 05:12 PM - Post#265751    
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Women's Basketball Announces Four-Player Recruiting Class




 
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11-16-18 04:29 PM - Post#265872    
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Malachi Rhodes signs:

https://twitter.com/ost247/status/1063541 100340752...


Still waiting for something from Alex Rice.




 
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11-16-18 06:49 PM - Post#265980    
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Women's soccer signed a seven-player class that appears to have some good players in it. The Bison graduate seven, but only three of that group saw much playing time.

https://bucknellbison.com/news/2018/11/16/women s-s...




 
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11-16-18 08:16 PM - Post#266069    
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Add this to this year's freshman class and they should be able to rebuild to a championship caliber team.

 
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11-16-18 09:02 PM - Post#266078    
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  • jkrun80 Said:
Add this to this year's freshman class and they should be able to rebuild to a championship caliber team.




Definitely possible, although Colgate and Boston U have a lot more scholarship money than does Bucknell.




 
KenZ 
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11-18-18 05:33 PM - Post#266248    
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Alex Rice signed his loi. cannot get a working link to confirming tweet.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsT67gJUcAApG0p ?format...

Edited by KenZ on 11-18-18 05:44 PM. Reason for edit: add link to photo

 
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11-18-18 08:06 PM - Post#266292    
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https://twitter.com/daves_joint/status/10 642513183...




 
KenZ 
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11-21-18 10:32 AM - Post#266713    
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where is our signing announcement?

 
Bison137 
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11-21-18 10:51 AM - Post#266714    
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Sports info department all on vacation?




 
Bison89 
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11-21-18 11:37 AM - Post#266719    
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  • Bison137 Said:
Sports info department all on vacation?



That would not surprise me.

I hope that they eat LOTS of food and watch football all day tomorrow. That is my general plan.
'RAY FOR THE ORANGE AND THE BLUE!


 
BisonRoadWarrior 
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11-29-18 03:32 PM - Post#267564    
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Announcement of men's basketball recruiting class. Ummmm, why isn't Alexander Rice listed?
https://bucknellbison.com/news/2018/11/29/buckn ell...


 
Bison137 
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11-29-18 03:55 PM - Post#267567    
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No idea. But that can't be good. The long delay in the press release suggests that there was some issue that was not immediately resolved. Had he told them he was not coming during the signing period, they could have gone ahead with the release you are seeing now.

What is confusing is that a picture of his signing ceremony at the Patrick School was posted on twitter on November 21st. Either he never sent in the signed LOI or there was some other issue, perhaps with his admission. Just speculating. I suppose there is a chance that he will still end up a Bison but I am not optimistic.




 
Bison89 
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11-29-18 04:13 PM - Post#267572    
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Could it be something like an academic issue? BTW, this is pure speculation. No facts whatsoever.
'RAY FOR THE ORANGE AND THE BLUE!


 
Bucknellbisonfan21 
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11-29-18 05:04 PM - Post#267577    
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Could this possibly open the door for a Sestina 5th year?

 
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11-29-18 05:14 PM - Post#267578    
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  • Bucknellbisonfan21 Said:
Could this possibly open the door for a Sestina 5th year?



I like the way that you think, but for sake of argument, why wouldn't Sestina get a Masters at a bigger school that needs a 1 year player?
'RAY FOR THE ORANGE AND THE BLUE!


 
Bison137 
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11-29-18 06:34 PM - Post#267580    
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And also if that idea was in play, I think it would have happened long before they opted to use the fourth scholarship on someone else.




 
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11-29-18 07:58 PM - Post#267584    
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  • Bison137 Said:
And also if that idea was in play, I think it would have happened long before they opted to use the fourth scholarship on someone else.





One other thing to remember is that the Bucknell administration has made it very hard for athletes to get an extra medical redshirt year. Several good athletes - not basketball - who wanted to play another year have been turned down in the past two years.




 
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11-30-18 09:05 AM - Post#267609    
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Why do you think the administration feels that way about 5th years? Back in the day, guys like Steve Schrader and Johnny Watson stayed for a 5th year, and that seemed to work fine for everyone.

 
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11-30-18 10:45 AM - Post#267635    
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Why do you think the administration feels that way about 5th years? Back in the day, guys like Steve Schrader and Johnny Watson stayed for a 5th year, and that seemed to work fine for everyone.



Were they on scholarship? It could be a monetary thing.
'RAY FOR THE ORANGE AND THE BLUE!


 
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11-30-18 10:53 AM - Post#267637    
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  • Bison89 Said:
  • Maryland Bison Said:
Why do you think the administration feels that way about 5th years? Back in the day, guys like Steve Schrader and Johnny Watson stayed for a 5th year, and that seemed to work fine for everyone.



Were they on scholarship? It could be a monetary thing.

Nobody was on scholarship in the 80s.

 
DoCtoR62 
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11-30-18 12:20 PM - Post#267654    
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  • Bison89 Said:
  • Maryland Bison Said:
Why do you think the administration feels that way about 5th years? Back in the day, guys like Steve Schrader and Johnny Watson stayed for a 5th year, and that seemed to work fine for everyone.



Were they on scholarship? It could be a monetary thing.



If anything, it would have been more about the financials back in the 80's when there were no squad or financial aid limits. Now, 13 scholarships are 13 scholarships. If the 5th year was a graduate year, it would even be cheaper.

FWIW, 3-5% of Bucknell graduates over the past four years have taken more than four years to complete their degrees, so it's not like there aren't other 5th-year students on campus.


 
Bison137 
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11-30-18 12:32 PM - Post#267660    
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  • DoCtoR62 Said:


FWIW, 3-5% of Bucknell graduates over the past four years have taken more than four years to complete their degrees, so it's not like there aren't other 5th-year students on campus.





But I think all of those 3-5% fall into a few categories: (a) five year engineers, or dual majors; (b) took one or more semesters off for various reasons health, family issues, etc.); or, occasionally (c) had academic issues and ended up with not enough credits.

For athletes, PL rules reqire a legitimate academic reason for a 5th year, and it appears Bucknell carries those rules to an extreme. If there is any hint that the key reason is sports participation, it seems like it is a non-starter.

Colgate, Lehigh, Lafayette, Holy Cross, and Fordham have literally had 50+ 5th year football players over the past 15-18 years. Bucknell literally has had none. Also you may recall it took over a year to get permission for both Tyree and Fitz to get a 5th year. That didn't work out so well academically, so I am not sure we will ever see that again. Also the administration didn't cooperate in letting one of the better Bison wrestlers of all-time, Tom Sleigh, come back for a 5th year and he was forced to go elsewhere. He is now nationally ranked - but not for Bucknell. Etc.




 
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11-30-18 07:02 PM - Post#267689    
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Ok now you got our curiosity going, B137.

Can you clarify what you mean re Tyree and or Fitz and not working out academically? Did one or both of them not earn their graduate degree?

Also what happened with Sleigh at Bucknell? Academics or injury issue?

And on a broad scale, does the 5th year issue get on the agenda for our new AD? Seems to me that it would, especially with our football program needing it badly IMO.

I attended a couple of West Chester U Division II football games this year and counted 25% redshirt players on all rosters that I surveyed. And WCU was 10-0 at the time.


 
Bison137 
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11-30-18 07:16 PM - Post#267690    
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  • Doktore K Said:
Ok now you got our curiosity going, B137.

Can you clarify what you mean re Tyree and or Fitz and not working out academically? Did one or both of them not earn their graduate degree?

Also what happened with Sleigh at Bucknell? Academics or injury issue?

And on a broad scale, does the 5th year issue get on the agenda for our new AD? Seems to me that it would, especially with our football program needing it badly IMO.

I attended a couple of West Chester U Division II football games this year and counted 25% redshirt players on all rosters that I surveyed. And WCU was 10-0 at the time.




Sleigh missed his senior year due to injury. As for the two hoops players, I don't think either one stuck around long enough to get their graduate degree. That is not unusual for PL players who get a 5th year, but some other schools don't find it to be a big deal. Also Lehigh and Boston U obviously have a lot more master's programs to choose from.




 
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12-01-18 10:15 AM - Post#267705    
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  • Bison137 Said:
No idea. But that can't be good. The long delay in the press release suggests that there was some issue that was not immediately resolved. Had he told them he was not coming during the signing period, they could have gone ahead with the release you are seeing now.

What is confusing is that a picture of his signing ceremony at the Patrick School was posted on twitter on November 21st. Either he never sent in the signed LOI or there was some other issue, perhaps with his admission. Just speculating. I suppose there is a chance that he will still end up a Bison but I am not optimistic.



Perhaps I'm grasping at straws but the timing of the Monmouth game may have something to do with this. The Twitter post said that Rice had signed his letter of intent. Maybe Bucknell didn't want to include Rice in the press release a few days before playing King Rice's team. That could be a distraction to Monmouth. There could be a separate release that will issue after this game. Why Bucknell wouldn't wait to issue a release for all four I don't know but there may have been pressure for a release. We were discussing it on this thread. While I'm generally not an optimist, this is a plausible explanation for otherwise inconsistent facts.


 
Bucknellbisonfan21 
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12-01-18 01:31 PM - Post#267714    
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I just talked to Doug and he said that John Terry told him that Rice is still coming here next year and that he doesn’t know why he wasn’t on the press release. Alex is here today at the game.

 
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