penn nation
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11-18-18 10:56 PM - Post#266422
In response to 10Q
As P38 said, this game was house money.
For a good stretch of the 1st half, we were right there.
What's frustrating is that you're in the rare situation of being in the double bonus with more than 10 minutes to play and don't have the players to take advantage of this.
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Stuart Suss
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11-18-18 10:57 PM - Post#266423
In response to penn nation
Penn 4-20 from behind the arc.
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Chip Bayers
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11-18-18 11:02 PM - Post#266424
In response to Stuart Suss
Penn 4-20 from behind the arc.
That and Brodeur’s inability to deal with KSU’s physicality were big factors.
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Mike Porter
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Kansas State
11-19-18 12:10 AM - Post#266428
In response to Chip Bayers
Yeah bummed our guys didn’t keep it a little closer but we played them tough while shooting poorly and getting nothing offensively from AJ or Max. I mean, we literally got 16 points from 4 starters not named Dev but kept K State engaged and in it the whole game.
That is a very good team, an Elite 8 squad with top 7 players back, and preseason Big 12 Player of the Year.
Some positives to take away:
1) defense continued to be strong both in keeping them off the 3 line and defending it well:
2) I thought outside a few lapses we did a good job keeping them in front of us.
3) We battled them pretty even on the boards.
4) Mike Wang came in when our bigs looked tentative and showed no fear (and did quite a few good things).
Plenty of negatives too, but biggest were losing turnover battle badly, poor shooting, and hesitation on offense at times.
As someone said, tomorrow is another day and a more important game than today because if we play well we have a great shot against Oregon State.
Let’s hope the guys bounce back quickly and make a good showing tomorrow.
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Chip Bayers
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11-19-18 12:20 AM - Post#266429
In response to Mike Porter
OSU appears to be a very good defensive team in the early going, so another big challenge. They’ve got some length up front, particularly with the 7-footer Kelley in the rotation, and as a result really shut down the 2-point shots.
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SomeGuy
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Re: Kansas State
11-19-18 12:30 AM - Post#266430
In response to Mike Porter
Yes, no moral victories of course, but we went toe to toe with the #12 team in the country for quite a while. To me, the positive was the Defense. Our shooting has papered over the fact that we haven’t been defending quite as well as last year through four games, so I liked seeing us turn in a strong defensive performance against a top level opponent.
While AJ obviously had trouble on offense, I thought we played them pretty evenly when he was in the game. The defense seemed to fall off when he was off the floor. Tyler on Wade was a fine idea — for a possession here and there to show him a different look. It was not something to try repeatedly, or for consecutive possessions. But the fouls left us there.
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10Q
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11-19-18 08:21 AM - Post#266434
In response to SomeGuy
Looks like we are favored today. How could that be?
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palestra38
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Re: Kansas State
11-19-18 09:30 AM - Post#266436
In response to SomeGuy
Agreed, we're not ready as a program to match up with K-State's physicality up front. Obviously, we could have kept it closer if we hit our FTs, though and the fact we kept getting to the line shows our ability to get to the hoop. But our 2 bigs were virtually shut out. Let's move on---we still are playing well as a team.
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PennFan10
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11-19-18 03:19 PM - Post#266453
In response to palestra38
Our defense against an elite 8 team was spectacular. We held them to 28 first half points last night and 64 for the game. We are again a top 100 defense. KState is a top 10 defensive team and it showed last night. Great experience for our guys.
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