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Username Post: Oregon State        (Topic#22148)
Quakers03 
Professor
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11-19-18 06:57 PM - Post#266530    
    In response to Quakers03

That AJ miss looks like it might have been the game. Crushing. Back to 10 now.

 
Quakers03 
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11-19-18 06:59 PM - Post#266531    
    In response to Quakers03

Kid cannot miss. Just throws in an off-balance 3 for 30...

 
Penndemonium 
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Reg: 11-29-04
11-19-18 07:01 PM - Post#266533    
    In response to Quakers03

I am not watching the game, but 7 minutes left in the game is a bit early to call it, no? Our team has limitations, but they do compete.

  • Quakers03 Said:
That AJ miss looks like it might have been the game. Crushing. Back to 10 now.



 
Stuart Suss 
PhD Student
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Loc: Chester County, Pennsylva...
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11-19-18 07:01 PM - Post#266534    
    In response to Quakers03

Tinkle 12-19, 4-6 from 3, 2-3 FT.

30 points, 8 rebounds and 7:32 still remaining.

Every coach's favorite son.

 
penn nation 
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11-19-18 07:02 PM - Post#266536    
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  • Stuart Suss Said:
AJ is 2-9 on the evening.



My guess is he does not make the All-Tourney team.


 
Quakers03 
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11-19-18 07:03 PM - Post#266537    
    In response to penn nation

Even when Tinkle very obviously travels they won't call it.

 
Quakers03 
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Oregon State
11-19-18 07:04 PM - Post#266538    
    In response to Penndemonium

  • Penndemonium Said:
I am not watching the game, but 7 minutes left in the game is a bit early to call it, no? Our team has limitations, but they do compete.



If you were watching the game my guess is you would have had the same reaction. Just the way it has been going and how hot Tinkle is. You could just feel the momentum zapped. I know they can score quickly but this is a pac-10 school, not Dartmouth.

 
Stuart Suss 
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11-19-18 07:07 PM - Post#266539    
    In response to Quakers03

AJ misses the front end of a one and one.

After an offensive rebound, AJ forces a hook shot, and misses.

He is 2-10 FG and 1-3 FT.

His struggles are the lead story coming out of this tournament for Penn.

 
Quakers03 
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11-19-18 07:09 PM - Post#266540    
    In response to Stuart Suss

They must be about 40% on one and ones on the season. Pretty tough to overcome those lost late possessions.

 
Stuart Suss 
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11-19-18 07:10 PM - Post#266541    
    In response to Quakers03

Antonio Woods is 0-5 FT for the tournament.

 
Stuart Suss 
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11-19-18 07:12 PM - Post#266542    
    In response to Stuart Suss

Last two games, Devon has 0 assists and 10 turnovers.

 
Mike Porter 
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Mike Porter
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Reg: 11-21-04
11-19-18 07:13 PM - Post#266543    
    In response to Quakers03

Yeah, this is a disappointing performance all around and no positives coming to mind here. Looking like we'll lose by more today than yesterday.

This Oregon State team is slightly higher ranked than Harvard for comparison, so a lot of work to do before the league season starts.

 
Quakers03 
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11-19-18 07:15 PM - Post#266544    
    In response to Mike Porter

I'm sure they were tired too, but this was a very poor showing.

I know I've been harping on it for 2 years but how can someone as skilled as AJ not have gotten his left hand to the point where it's at least serviceable? Without the threat of it teams are free to overplay him. Even on the one layup tonight he went left and finished with his right hand. He could be so much more dangerous if he had any confidence in it.

 
penn nation 
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11-19-18 07:16 PM - Post#266545    
    In response to Stuart Suss

How about going 12 for 46 from distance?

  • Stuart Suss Said:
AJ misses the front end of a one and one.

After an offensive rebound, AJ forces a hook shot, and misses.

He is 2-10 FG and 1-3 FT.

His struggles are the lead story coming out of this tournament for Penn.




 
Stuart Suss 
PhD Student
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11-19-18 07:22 PM - Post#266546    
    In response to penn nation

12-46 from distance is, in part, a product of defenses not having to respect our interior offense.


 
Chip Bayers 
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Chip Bayers
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11-19-18 07:26 PM - Post#266547    
    In response to penn nation

24-11 run to the finish for OSU after A.J. missed the bunny that could have cut it to 3.


 
Mike Porter 
Postdoc
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Mike Porter
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
Reg: 11-21-04
Oregon State
11-19-18 07:26 PM - Post#266548    
    In response to Stuart Suss

Yeah those were probably the worst back to back games for AJ... So without his production, and no Betley to shoot them out of a zone, that was rough.

Here's to hoping the coaching staff can work up some other zone options because once they made that change it was downhill from there based on parts I was able to watch live.

 
penn nation 
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11-19-18 07:27 PM - Post#266549    
    In response to Stuart Suss

Understood, but some of these were on the relatively to totally uncontested side.

  • Stuart Suss Said:
12-46 from distance is, in part, a product of defenses not having to respect our interior offense.





 
pennsive 
Sophomore
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Reg: 11-21-04
11-19-18 07:46 PM - Post#266551    
    In response to penn nation

When we can't hit our threes ,and we can't drive, and don't hit our free throws, we are not going to win,obviously. What I would like to us try against bigger, more athletic teams is more two point jumpers from our less able three point shooters or to warm up our three point shooters until they heat up. It also might give a much needed psychological boost from the line and elsewhere. Admittedly, I only "saw all three games on the radio," but stated differently, we are too predictable, and in any event,I doubt the analytics apply when you don't have your mojo and the other team is imposing its will. I, too, believe in Steve, but I think Max, AJ, Tyler, Antonio, Jarrod, and Eddie would be,more productive shooting 50-50 balls in two point land and more able to get offensive rebounds than they are hanging or passing behind the arc. We are not playing with Betley
and Wood out there this year to keep the defenses honest.

 
Quakers03 
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Reg: 12-07-04
Oregon State
11-19-18 08:09 PM - Post#266554    
    In response to pennsive

So we're going with the "need to warm up" argument to move away from our entire philosophy? Is Jackson Donahue suddenly going to make a shot from 12 feet when he misses wide open from 21 feet? I don't see it. The shots were there, we just missed them. The announcers kept raving about our spacing. They're not going to face a Tinkle much in the Ivies and they're also not going to dealing with the travel like they did.

The stat that has me most concerned is the Devon assist/turnover one. That MUST change.

 
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