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Username Post: Monmouth        (Topic#22171)
Eric Von Zipper 
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11-23-18 08:09 PM - Post#266838    

Opens Princeton -2

 
Eric Von Zipper 
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11-23-18 08:15 PM - Post#266839    
    In response to Eric Von Zipper

The Blue Hawks are 0-6, averaging 60 points a game

 
TigerFan 
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11-24-18 03:26 PM - Post#266877    
    In response to Eric Von Zipper

I was excited to get ESPN+ to work on my TV and see the Tigers play for the first time this year. Now I wish I hadn’t. Tigers down 20-10 to 0-6 Monmouth. Pretty stunned by what I’m watching.

 
TigerFan 
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11-24-18 03:31 PM - Post#266878    
    In response to TigerFan

Lead down to 5 as Tigers score 5 quick points. Defense seems much better when Aririguzoh is in the game.

 
TigerFan 
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11-24-18 03:42 PM - Post#266881    
    In response to TigerFan

Lead back to 10. Just absolutely terrible basketball on both ends of the court by the Tigers. Bad shooting. Bad passing. Terrible defense. Abysmal rebounding. Ghost of Joe Scott hovering over the court.

 
TigerFan 
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11-24-18 03:47 PM - Post#266883    
    In response to TigerFan

Unbelievable how far both of these teams have fallen in just two years.

 
Eric Von Zipper 
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11-24-18 04:01 PM - Post#266886    
    In response to TigerFan

And Penn just won by 50.

 
palestra38 
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11-24-18 04:18 PM - Post#266887    
    In response to Eric Von Zipper

That was against Stockton State. Joke game.

 
TigerFan 
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11-24-18 04:21 PM - Post#266890    
    In response to palestra38

Commentators noting that there is zero evidence of the Princeton offense on display today.

 
TigerFan 
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11-24-18 04:27 PM - Post#266891    
    In response to TigerFan

Tigers doing absolutely nothing to help teammates get shots. Also getting outhustled on just about every loose ball. Down 12.

 
1LotteryPick1969 
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11-24-18 05:01 PM - Post#266894    
    In response to TigerFan

Finally. Thanks DC3

 
TigerFan 
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11-24-18 05:04 PM - Post#266896    
    In response to TigerFan

DC has just gone off in the last 10 minutes and takes the Tigers up 3 with 35 seconds to play. Wow!

 
TigerFan 
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11-24-18 05:10 PM - Post#266897    
    In response to TigerFan

Tigers take a gritty 60-57 win. Man do they have a lot of work to do though.

 
1LotteryPick1969 
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11-24-18 05:12 PM - Post#266898    
    In response to TigerFan

A second good 3 point shooter would be nice.

 
SRP 
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11-24-18 05:20 PM - Post#266899    
    In response to TigerFan

That was a nice blowtorch job by Cannady, melting the rim down the stretch. Did not want to account for Monmouth's first win of the season.

Except for two ill-chosen drives late in the second half, I loved Morales's game tonight. He set a tone for steals and deflections and drawing charges and provided what little action the Tigers had in moving the Monmouth defense during long stretches of offensive doldrums. Aririguzoh played good defense, Johns showed some activity, Stephens made a defensive impact and even took an open three when he was left alone.

Once again, getting some ball pressure and harassing the other team allowed the Tigers to look OK on defense. They committed too many fouls, even though I thought the officiating was somewhat one-sided in favor of the Hawks.

Please let's have some offensive structure of some kind. Set some off-ball screens for Cannady to catch and shoot at least. Dribble in a little bit and then zip the ball crosscourt when the help side moves toward the lane. Run some Cannady-Stephens ball screens. Rudimentary stuff. (I guess it's too much to expect backdoor action or high-post play this year.)

 
1LotteryPick1969 
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11-24-18 05:41 PM - Post#266901    
    In response to SRP

I had the sound off and was watching on my computer.

Did not Ethan Wright have a nice put-back to end the first half, and a strong drive to the hoop late in the second half?

 
westcoast 
Sophomore
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Reg: 03-08-16
11-24-18 05:55 PM - Post#266906    
    In response to 1LotteryPick1969

Yes, Wright did make those two key plays, and actually led the Tigers in +/- with +15. Morales is the quicker guard, and can be a real pest on defense, but Wright also looks like a solid defender, and he does a good job with rebounding, handling the ball, and getting to the rim.

 
Petrie 
Freshman
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Age: 65
Reg: 11-14-16
11-24-18 05:57 PM - Post#266907    
    In response to SRP

I’ve hesitated to bring this up, since I’m guessing it’s a bit of a tired topic on this board, but I note a couple recent references.

What ever happened to putting opponents in unfamiliar territory by running ultra disciplined offense, constant movement, constant cutting to basket, ball screens, ie the Princeton offense. Not talking about a pure version - take fast breaks, take early 3’s or lay-ups, but when play has settled, why can’t we get into the familar sets and patterns that always made Princeton distinctive? Whatever happened to The Smart Take from the Strong ? And it’s not just offense - When matchups are not advantageous why aren’t we in a zone, capitalizing on opponents’ impatience, and mitigating quickness and/or size deficits ? Is carill’s 1-2-2 match up no longer teachable?

Now, watching the tigers is no different than watching any mid-major hoping to be pretty good. I don’t know if I’m more angry or saddened.

I’ve been watching for over 50 yrs, and I’ll always watch, and root, and look for any news of tiger bball, but just had to get this off my chest.

 
bradley 
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11-24-18 06:47 PM - Post#266914    
    In response to Petrie

I hear you but I kind of disagree. The problem is that the Tigers are putting 3 guys on the floor that you can win with right now -- Cannady, Stephens and Arirguzoh. If Llewellyn is a very good player, they need a 5th player that they can consistently rely up even if a limited role of playing good defense and/or rebounding and 2 reliable back ups.

Schweigger, Gladson, DesRosiers. Much, Frieberg, Johns, and Wright is not getting it done. Morales showed some life today as he can penetrate. If Llewellyn can penetrate as well as I think, there should be some wide open looks.

Cannady and Stephens are very good but the need help. Who, if anyone, will step up. Much has some ability but he looks like he has lost confidence.

Where is Soencer?

 
Petrie 
Freshman
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Age: 65
Reg: 11-14-16
11-24-18 07:27 PM - Post#266918    
    In response to bradley

I agree this team could be very much improved by mid-season. There seem to be plenty of good pieces, assuming Llewellyn is a starter and at least one of the other freshman makes a good contribution, and I think both assumptions come true.
I think Henderson has brought in very good talent, which makes my frustration even greater - with these kind of players operating a system ( offense and defense) with the discipline of PU teams from the past, the sky’s the limit. We’d be beating Power 5 conference teams in Non-conference, and maybe winning a game or 2 in ncaa. I used to always wonder what the Princeton system could do with really good players.

Alright - I’m done complaining. Go tigers

 
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