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Username Post: NCAA Net Rankings        (Topic#22186)
HuskyColonial 
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11-26-18 05:05 PM - Post#267120    

I'll save everyone some time. Skip to 295!

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/ne ws/...

 
BisonRoadWarrior 
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11-26-18 08:49 PM - Post#267160    
    In response to HuskyColonial

#1 also of great relevance to the Bison!


 
jkrun80 
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11-26-18 08:58 PM - Post#267164    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

As the article notes, teams are penalized heavily for home losses. Let's hope we rectify that on Wednesday.

 
BisonRoadWarrior 
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NCAA Net Rankings
11-27-18 12:55 AM - Post#267180    
    In response to jkrun80

Here's how the Patriot League stacks up in the NET rankings, courtesy of the AU Hoops Podcast via Twitter:

109 Holy Cross
122 Colgate
133 Lehigh
146 American
232 Boston
273 Loyola
295 Bucknell
309 Lafayette
313 Navy
323 Army

https://twitter.com/auhoopspodcast


 
bison63 
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11-27-18 08:56 AM - Post#267186    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

Win against SB, which we thought was good, not looking so good now that they are 0-5 vs D1. Only win is non D1. A home loss to a team (Canisius) that has lost their other 5 games is also a killer.

 
res 
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11-27-18 11:20 AM - Post#267196    
    In response to bison63

Not the case. Bona beat Jackson St., a D1 program. Granted, not a very good D1 program but D1 nonetheless.

Also, the win will almost certainly look better over time. Bona has 5 guys out injured and is down to 7 scholarship players including its two best returning players from last year. With a couple of exceptions, the remainder of its OOC schedule is reasonably tough so the record is unlikely to greatly improve soon, but it should tick up as these guys return.


 
Bison137 
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11-27-18 12:18 PM - Post#267207    
    In response to res

One thing to remember is that this ranking replace the RPI, which always produced Bizzarre results until at least mid January. It is no better than the RPI, but it is also no worse. By February, the rankings will look more reasonable.




 
atlantabison 
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Re: NCAA Net Rankings
11-27-18 12:34 PM - Post#267212    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
Here's how the Patriot League stacks up in the NET rankings, courtesy of the AU Hoops Podcast via Twitter:

109 Holy Cross
122 Colgate
133 Lehigh
146 American
232 Boston
273 Loyola
295 Bucknell
309 Lafayette
313 Navy
323 Army

https://twitter.com/auhoopspodcast



the one edit BRW made in this from auhoops post was to remove the "(what!?)" from after the 295 Bucknell line. I kind of liked the sentiment it added.
Ray Bucknell!


 
bison63 
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11-27-18 01:31 PM - Post#267225    
    In response to res

  • res Said:
Not the case. Bona beat Jackson St., a D1 program. Granted, not a very good D1 program but D1 nonetheless.

Also, the win will almost certainly look better over time. Bona has 5 guys out injured and is down to 7 scholarship players including its two best returning players from last year. With a couple of exceptions, the remainder of its OOC schedule is reasonably tough so the record is unlikely to greatly improve soon, but it should tick up as these guys return.



I stand corrected, res, but for now the point still holds. Hopefully Bona starts climbing in the ratings once they get back to something resembling full strength.


 
BisonRoadWarrior 
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Re: NCAA Net Rankings
11-27-18 06:58 PM - Post#267258    
    In response to atlantabison

  • atlantabison Said:
  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
Here's how the Patriot League stacks up in the NET rankings, courtesy of the AU Hoops Podcast via Twitter:

109 Holy Cross
122 Colgate
133 Lehigh
146 American
232 Boston
273 Loyola
295 Bucknell
309 Lafayette
313 Navy
323 Army

https://twitter.com/auhoopspodcast



the one edit BRW made in this from auhoops post was to remove the "(what!?)" from after the 295 Bucknell line. I kind of liked the sentiment it added.


Ha, I did too, but thought people would attribute it to me.

I wonder what beating NET #1 Ohio State in Columbus would do to the results.

 
BisonFan4 
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Re: NCAA Net Rankings
11-27-18 07:50 PM - Post#267268    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

That should boost our NET ranking some, lol. That's a game I believe we can win. We'll need a much better first half performance to do so, but I think we match up well with them.

 
BisonRoadWarrior 
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02-13-19 06:22 PM - Post#276273    
    In response to BisonFan4

Interesting look at how the NET rankings are playing out, and what behaviors they are incentivizing:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2819595-the- ne...

Quite a gap for the Bison:
RPI: 91
NET: 152


 
crd012 
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02-13-19 06:54 PM - Post#276277    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

Well that’s discouraging for a program like ours. We already have a hard enough time scheduling because the big schools don’t want to risk losing to us.

 
res 
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02-13-19 08:28 PM - Post#276290    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
Interesting look at how the NET rankings are playing out, and what behaviors they are incentivizing:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2819595-the- ne...

Quite a gap for the Bison:
RPI: 91
NET: 152



RPI is considerably easier to incentivize. I don't trust NET since we know little of the details. wrt the Bison, however, it's reasonably consistent with kenpom and Sagarin, though slightly less favorable.


 
Bison89 
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02-14-19 03:01 PM - Post#276368    
    In response to res

Can anybody explain to me these interesting kenpom.com rankings:

#58 Penn State 9-15
#71 Illinois 9-15

'RAY FOR THE ORANGE AND THE BLUE!


 
crd012 
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02-14-19 06:57 PM - Post#276403    
    In response to Bison89

So I can’t say why they are so high but both have been playing well lately. Illinois is really really young and have started to figure it out. They beat mich state last week and I wouldn’t be surprised if they beat ohio state tonight.

Penn State, their record looks bad but like all their losses are by like 5 or less. Kind of ridiculous actually. Plus I’m sure the michigan win the other day helped.

 
res 
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02-14-19 07:21 PM - Post#276404    
    In response to crd012

Penn State is also rated #58 in kenpom. Why? Close losses and a few wins against the 4th ranked strength of schedule.


 
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