HARVARDDADGRAD
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11-28-18 11:15 PM - Post#267467
Anyone know if Saturday's game is at 1:00 or 3:00?Conflicting listings out there. Considering driving to game.
Thanks in advance.
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PennFan10
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11-29-18 01:13 AM - Post#267474
In response to HARVARDDADGRAD
The Siena website has a double header listed with the women tipping at 1pm and the men at 3pm.
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84grad
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11-29-18 09:19 AM - Post#267482
In response to PennFan10
Correct. I actually called to confirm that with the Ticket Office. Women's game vs. FAU.
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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11-29-18 09:35 AM - Post#267485
In response to 84grad
Thanks! Too bad first game isn’t vs Harvard women as Siena and Harvard played each other this week
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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12-01-18 11:20 AM - Post#267706
In response to HARVARDDADGRAD
Siena articles quotes Amaker as saying that availability of Chris Lewis is "up in the air" for today's game.
With Vermont next, you'd think that if Chris can get some time to get the rust off that we could see limited minutes, or not.
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mrjames
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12-01-18 11:51 AM - Post#267707
In response to HARVARDDADGRAD
Another situation where I suspect that Chris *could* play but given how little Tommy cares about the non-conf and there only being two games between now and 12/22, we might not see Chris until after exams. At which point, I’d suspect we could see one or both of Bryce and Seth as well.
It’s a shame, because two wins heading into the break would put Harvard even on wins against bubble, but even if they survive today, I don’t see how they win at Vermont with all the 1st Teamers out unless the Catamounts play as poorly as the Gaels did for vast stretches.
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PennFan10
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12-01-18 03:16 PM - Post#267721
In response to mrjames
More mystery about Chris Lewis injury. No one knows what it was, is, or will be. No surprise there.
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digamma
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12-01-18 06:09 PM - Post#267742
In response to PennFan10
Same post I had after the USF game. Love this team's fight, but it's a frustrating bunch at times too.
Also, Penn fans, please continue with your conspiracy theories.
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bradley
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12-01-18 08:02 PM - Post#267751
In response to digamma
Who cares if Amaker or Harvard reports about injuries. If I was a coach, I want to keep the other team planning for all possible options that Harvard could offer.
I can only imagine the results if Yale was missing Oni, Bruner and Copeland or Penn was missing Brodeur, Godwin, or?? or Princeton - Cannady, Stephens, ??. Harvard is hanging in there and fighting but they obviously need their best players. The possibility of a 2nd IL bid is fading away unless Yale or Penn do something against Miami.
It would be sad for the league if Harvard injuries to their best players continue to linger --- missed opportunity???
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PennFan10
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12-01-18 08:04 PM - Post#267752
In response to bradley
I have said before I don’t care what Amaker says/doesn’t say. We don’t play him til February and we’ll know what’s what by then. I think its funny he thinks he Bill Belichik and anyone cares about his secrecy policy.
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bradley
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12-01-18 08:37 PM - Post#267756
In response to PennFan10
My take is that Amaker like Belichek is doing the smart thing and I have no issues if he does the same thing when they play the Tigers. I hope that Mitch does the same thing - keep the opposition guessing. I assume that the IL will be ok with not disclosing but I do not know. Good coaching by the other side will mitigate. Let’s move on to what is important - the games.
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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12-01-18 09:57 PM - Post#267761
In response to bradley
Went to Albany to watch today's game with 84grad. Inspired comeback, but ugly game. Missed FT's at end by Harvard cost bigly in a 3 point loss. Likely with injuries players were gassed by the end of game. Bassey rolled around in pain on the floor before he shot and missed his FT's.
Silver lining is that the depth is impressive and players are gaining wonderful game experience. Frustrating to lose games while watching Seth, Bryce, Chris and Weisner in suits.
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bradley
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12-01-18 10:36 PM - Post#267764
In response to bradley
The possibility of a 2nd IL bid is fading away unless Yale or Penn do something against Miami.
Thank you Oni and Yale -- very impressive. Big win for the IL. Now, let's see what the Quakers can do at home against the Hurricanes.
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SRP
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12-03-18 01:41 AM - Post#267841
In response to bradley
Aside from missing the talent of the injured guys, it has to be playing havoc with the flow of the offense to play with different skill sets and preferences in all those spots. And if they do gel around the limited lineup, reintegrating the stars will force more role adjustments later, although that won't be too hard with a smooth operator like Towns.
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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12-03-18 01:42 PM - Post#267881
In response to SRP
Certainly not optimal. I'm sort of hoping that the end of exams (Dec 21st) would be a great time to start reintegrating some or all of the Big 3 - at least in practices.
Even if they don't participate against GW (12/22), Mercer (12/29) and UNC (1/2), they'll have McGill (1/6) before opening the Ivy season at Dartmouth. A game vs Howard (1/21) is followed by the home iteration of the Dartmouth series (1/26).
Thus, until Harvard plays Princeton and Penn the weekend of Feb 15th the Crimson have only 3 Ivy games: Dartmouth (2x) and at home vs Yale on Feb 1st.
Still a very nice window to prepare for he Ivy season and, eventually, the tournament. Although I hate to look at things this way, since seeding is largely irrelevant, as long as the Crimson make the tournament there don't seem to be any consequences to taking a conservative approach, other than gaining experience playing together. Alleviating that concern is the fact that Seth, Bryce, Chris and Justin have played together for years. This period is giving the rest of the squad valuable playing experience. Assuming a healthy roster, Tommy will hopefully only need to determine who the 5th starter (2 guard) is - Corey, Christian or Noah.
My bottom line is that I'm just hoping that the Big 3 are healthy for March.
If anyone objects to this approach, please refer to my posts opposing the Ivy Tournament which contemplated this scenario. One of the 4 or 5 top teams just needs to play well for one weekend in March to move on to the NCAA tournament.
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palestra38
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12-03-18 01:50 PM - Post#267883
In response to HARVARDDADGRAD
You are correct, but you are assuming that this is a conservative approach as opposed to one dictated by their actual medical condition.
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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12-03-18 01:59 PM - Post#267886
In response to palestra38
Yes and no. I'm assuming in the case of Seth and Bryce that it is dictated by health. In the case of Chris Lewis I believe that if he had been needed to play the past few games he likely would have.
At some point - hopefully - there is a transition from health to following a reasoned and balanced approach, taking into account health, stamina, practice time, and the importance of the game.
I think we saw this with Yale last year. Makai Mason was held out until Yale played Harvard. He never played again. No easy answers.
I do take comfort in the fact that the Big 3 travel with the team and attend all games. That doesn't happen if you plan on red shirting.
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bradley
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12-05-18 10:37 AM - Post#268100
In response to bradley
The possibility of a 2nd IL bid is fading away unless Yale or Penn do something against Miami.
Thank you Oni and Yale -- very impressive. Big win for the IL. Now, let's see what the Quakers can do at home against the Hurricanes.
Mission accomplished. League is gaining momentum. Great job by Quakers -- impressive!!
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