mrjames
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12-12-18 02:12 PM - Post#268871
In response to SomeGuy
Easy calc to get to non-TO ORAT is to take ORAT/ (100 - TO Rate).
So someone with an 80 ORAT and a roughly average TO Rate (20%) would have a 100 non-TO ORAT. In other words, that person needs to score 1pt per poss on poss that don’t end in a turnover by that person to have an 80 ORAT. For Noah, his calc would be 80/66 or 121.
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PennFan10
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02-02-19 05:01 PM - Post#274780
In response to PennFan10
Well, this situation has certainly changed. Now who do we like? Taurus Samuels? Bryce Washington? Mike W still has a shot if he keeps putting up big numbers but Llewelyn has fallen off the map for this discussion.
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AntiUngvar
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02-02-19 05:36 PM - Post#274786
In response to PennFan10
Sam, You may like this kid Ellis after seeing him, tonight.
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SomeGuy
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02-03-19 12:43 PM - Post#274913
In response to PennFan10
I think Kirkwood remains in the conversation too. As of today, I’d give it to Washington, with Wang and Kirkwood right behind. But nobody has blown the doors off. Llewellyn could still come on, but he has a sub 80 ORAT right now.
I think it will be one of those four, but there is enough season left for Nweke, Samuels, or Ellis to step forward, too.
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PennFan10
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02-12-19 12:56 PM - Post#276056
In response to PennFan10
at the 40% of the IL season mark, Bryce Washington appears to be the front runner for IL ROY having won his 3rd straight and 4th out of 6 ROW awards.
Lots of games to be played but unless something happens to Bryce or someone else starts an Aiken-esque rise in performance, that's probably a good bet.
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Silver Maple
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02-12-19 04:21 PM - Post#276080
In response to PennFan10
Regardless of whether he ends up as ROY, Washington is going to be a very good one. It's easy to see why Pitt was recruiting him so hard. He clearly has poise and a pretty high basketball IQ. He's an unusually good 3 pt. shooter, and (HALLELUJAH!) is also a good free throw shooter. In order to become a more complete player he probably needs to put on a bit of muscle. This will help him score more on penetration, and will probably help him become a better defender. He should probably also work on ball movement and setting up open teammates to score.
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Jeff2sf
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02-12-19 05:21 PM - Post#276086
In response to Silver Maple
Having Betley and Bryce on the floor at the same time next year is going to be such a headache for the other team.
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Old Bear
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02-12-19 07:32 PM - Post#276097
In response to Jeff2sf
Bryce is certainly leading, but George Mawanda-Kalema may be a dark horse, assuming he is eligible, he's a Soph, but had hip surgery and didn't play an Ivy game last year.
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PennFan10
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02-12-19 11:45 PM - Post#276110
In response to Old Bear
If Bryce continues at the pace he has been on, someone is going to have to put up some eye popping stats to beat him. If Bryce falls off down the stretch, the door is open.
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palestra38
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Ivy League ROY 02-13-19 08:05 AM - Post#276116
In response to Old Bear
You can get an extra year, but you cannot be a freshman twice. While this topic says ROY, I believe it is FOY. Perhaps I am wrong about that---I do not recall a soph ever winning.
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rbg
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02-13-19 10:05 AM - Post#276131
In response to palestra38
My first thought was that Rookie would mean a player who is new to the Ivy League, whether as a first-year or transfer.
However, looking at the 1992-1993 season showed that Matt Maloney, who transferred to Penn from Vanderbilt, was named First Team All-Ivy, but not selected as the Rookie of the Year. That award went to Cornell freshman Pax Whitehead, who actually left Cornell after that one year to go to Vanderbilt.
In doing a little digging, the Brown and Dartmouth websites note that the award was initiated in 1970-1971 as the Sophomore of the Year and changed to Rookie of the Year in 1978-1979 to reflect freshman eligibility.
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