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Username Post: Iona        (Topic#22304)
bradley 
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12-16-18 09:36 PM - Post#269237    
    In response to SecS3

I poorly stated my point that if Bella was still injured, the Tigers probably would have been 1-2 vs. 3-0 in these games as both Marist and probably Quinnipac, two good mid-major teams, would have probably beaten the Tigers although one never knows for sure..

When Bella was out as you correctly stated, the Tigers were 2-7 with two OT losses against good major teams,Seton Hall and Penn State, as well as being tied after 3 quarters against at that time the #16 ranked team in the country.

Allarie is a game changer and may be a 3 time IL POY by the time that she is done -- Bradley like in a different era.

Unfortunately, they will need to win IvyMadness this year to play in the NCAAW tournament but they will probably be at their best next year when she is a senior.

 
1LotteryPick1969 
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12-16-18 11:58 PM - Post#269239    
    In response to SRP

  • SRP Said:
IMO the play of Stephens has been as big an issue as that of Much and Derosiers. His D is OK but not dominant and he's looked out of sorts offensively. Hope he and the others can pick it up as the season wears on.



Our guards now match up well with most teams, and Aririguzoh can hold his own with most mid majors, but Stephens, in this non-league portion of the schedule, is defending and being defended by, players bigger, stronger, and just as fast as he.

 
PennFan10 
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Re: Iona
12-17-18 12:11 AM - Post#269240    
    In response to AntiUngvar

  • AntiUngvar Said:
Brad, All that you've just written I buy into, and piques my interest in the Duke game. Your team can compete in Durham. Don't think one Dukie can stay in front of your freshman for long; and if K plays zone, Cannady & the other frosh, from State College, should have some real opportunities.



I would be shocked if Duke plays any zone. I don't think they are too worried about Princeton and they probably shouldn't be.


 
AntiUngvar 
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Re: Iona
12-17-18 12:21 AM - Post#269241    
    In response to PennFan10

I'm sure you could teach me here: how much zone does K play, lately, and do you really think he has a defender for Llewellyn?


 
Mike Porter 
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12-17-18 01:26 AM - Post#269244    
    In response to AntiUngvar

I’ve got no inside info as a Penn fan, but I was wondering if Stephens was hurt also. Hasn’t had something on his knee in games? At least I thought I saw him with a wrap or light brace when I see mins of recent games here and there.

 
umbrellaman 
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12-17-18 02:07 PM - Post#269275    
    In response to Mike Porter

Princeton having one post player surrounded by guard/wing types goes way back, even if they don't play like the teams of old. However, putting Aririguzoh in the middle and surrounding him with Morales, Llewellyn, Cannady and Stephens is REALLY small even by Princeton standards - and that is the best 5 right now. They really need to have the bigger bodied sophomores step up, but it looks like more of the same from last year - Much, Desrosiers and Schweiger don't appear to have made a leap from FR to SO.

 
PennFan10 
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Re: Iona
12-17-18 02:47 PM - Post#269284    
    In response to AntiUngvar

  • AntiUngvar Said:
I'm sure you could teach me here: how much zone does K play, lately, and do you really think he has a defender for Llewellyn?



I can't remember every seeing Duke in a zone, but I could be wrong. And I am sure they will have a plan for the only real threat Princeton has. They didn't have much problem with Oni or Yale, who as a team is decidedly better than Princeton.

If Llewellyn scores 30 and Duke wins by 30, I am sure Coach K is ok with that.


 
AntiUngvar 
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Re: Iona
12-17-18 03:06 PM - Post#269288    
    In response to PennFan10

Wow! Thank you, Sam- concise, to the point and all, too convincing! Your way with words is such that you have believing I really am as delusional as you once proclaimed. (In fact, I still think Princeton will [at least] cover.)


 
Silver Maple 
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12-17-18 03:14 PM - Post#269290    
    In response to AntiUngvar

I'm confused. Was that last post from AntiUngvar snarky? Nasty? Witty? Genuinely appreciative? Some combination of the above?

 
westcoast 
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Re: Iona
12-17-18 04:09 PM - Post#269302    
    In response to PennFan10

Duke primarily played zone defense last year, and many observers felt that it saved the season. Here is an article from The Ringer about Duke's transformation to a zone defense team:

https://www.theringer.com/2018/3/26/17163732/du ke-...

But this year, Duke has played man-to-man most of the time.

 
AntiUngvar 
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12-17-18 04:18 PM - Post#269305    
    In response to Silver Maple

Confused? Why not adhere to a program that forces you to follow your own advice? As for #10, who's never confusing and seldom confused, before #10 ever saw daylight, K coached against a championship caliber UNLV team- twice in the course of 365 days. To win that second Final Four matchup (a squeaker), I'm thinking -and I'll research it further- he had to resort to a zone (honestly can't recall the true fact of this early 90s matter).


 
AntiUngvar 
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Iona
12-17-18 04:20 PM - Post#269306    
    In response to Silver Maple

BTW, K lost that first Vegas matchup by 32; and he's always been one to learn from the past- a big part of why he's lasted for half a century in coaching.


Edited by AntiUngvar on 12-17-18 04:47 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
TigerFan 
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12-17-18 06:35 PM - Post#269315    
    In response to SecS3

In December 1981, Coach K brought one of his first Duke teams to Jadwin to play a mediocre Tiger squad (the nucleus of which would go on to take the Ivy crown the next two years and pull off a huge upset against Big-8 champ Oklahoma State in what was then a second round NCAA game with a lot of byes given in first round due to the odd number of teams in the tournament).

The Tigers routed the Dukies in a game that was not as close as the 17-point final score. A high school senior at the time, I attended the game between what were my two two college choices. I chose to matriculate at the school that, judging from the outcome, was obviously an emerging basketball powerhouse.

 
sparman 
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sparman
Reg: 12-08-04
12-17-18 07:55 PM - Post#269321    
    In response to TigerFan

Or perhaps you preferred the school that expected students to have learned the Earth is not flat, even if they play basketball.

 
SRP 
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12-18-18 05:16 AM - Post#269335    
    In response to sparman

That was a funny game. I heard Carrill talk about it the next year. Duke was giving extreme weak-side help in the lane so that their whole D was shifted to the strong side. The Princeton coaches just had the Tigers throw skip passes over the top to the far side, get the Blue Devils scrambling across the court to reset, then skip the ball back and just keep doing that until inevitably there was a lane to the hoop or a wide-open jump shot.

 
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