Eric Von Zipper
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12-17-18 09:34 PM - Post#269325
Opens Duke -29 1/2
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sparman
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12-17-18 10:37 PM - Post#269328
In response to Eric Von Zipper
I'm having trouble understanding the need for a half point added to a 29 point spread.
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penn nation
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12-17-18 10:43 PM - Post#269329
In response to sparman
For all we know it could have been heavy Princeton money bringing it down from 36.
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bradley
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Re: Duke 12-17-18 10:51 PM - Post#269330
In response to Eric Von Zipper
I remember watching the Yale-Duke game with Yale up by 1 pt with 8 minutes left in the first half and thought that the Bulldogs were going to get killed as they simply could not handle Duke's pressure on Phils, Copeland and Oni as the primary ball handlers. Duke outscored Yale 50-24 in the 2nd half. It will be interesting to see if the Dukies do the same or worse to the Tigers. In a perfect world based on the height and size of the Duke front court, it would be better if the Tigers could go with just two guards, Llewellyn and Cannady with Arirguzoh, Much and Stephens up front but if the pressure is too much, Morales will be in there. It really comes down to how well Jaelin can handle the pressure as Morales may get engulfed by the size of Duke.
There is a possibility that Stephens may get limited playing time as he played only 23 minutes against Iona and something may be going on with his knee and/or legs. Tigers obviously need Myles who was the best player on the floor less than 2 years ago in the inaugural IvyMadness.
Nice to see Llewellyn get his first Ivy Rookie of the week award but hopefully, he gets player of the week awards as well especially during the IL season. Bella is now 2 for 2 for player of the week since returning from injury.
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SRP
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12-18-18 05:23 AM - Post#269336
In response to bradley
Important not to get rattled by dunks or turnovers and move on to the next play. This would be a great time to rediscover the wonders of accurate backdoor passing and hard cuts, but I don't think that can be turned on like a faucet when needed.
Probably need to mix up defenses to keep the young Duke players guessing. Barrett is basically unguardable one-on-one by anyone the Tigers have (Kentucky had that problem too) so man defense is going to be quite a challenge.
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SRP
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12-18-18 05:34 AM - Post#269337
In response to SRP
The Tigers sound like they are being realistic about their chances. Not sure that's an altogether good thing.
https://www.trentonian.com/sports/princeton-men- s-...
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AntiUngvar
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12-18-18 09:21 AM - Post#269341
In response to SRP
They don't need to share their truest feelings with no any of us. Understated confidence may be best. Tigers will be fine.
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bradley
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12-18-18 10:49 AM - Post#269343
In response to SRP
Probably the right attitude going into the game is to protect the ball, box out and most importantly, keep your composure. The likelihood of this game being close for the Tigers or any IL team is probably slim and none but hopefully it will be a learning experience.
Will be intersesting to see if Duke has 16 steals and the Tigers commit 23 turnovers like Yale did at Cameron.
You do not want to go into this game tight as it will make it even more difficult. Play it and put it in your scrap book.
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SRP
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12-18-18 02:10 PM - Post#269366
In response to bradley
There's a difference between being loose and expecting to get blown out. Not being shattered by a likely loss is healthy; an "oh well, they're too good" mindset is not likely to be conducive to preventing a blowout in the first place.
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bradley
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12-18-18 04:31 PM - Post#269377
In response to SRP
ESPN has put a piece if the Duke freshmen better than Michigan's Fab Five. Nice timing.
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penn nation
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Duke 12-18-18 05:55 PM - Post#269386
In response to bradley
That so-called Fab Five group--highly, highly overrated. Could never stand the media attention they got or still get.
Forget the number of national championships they won (zero). Guess how many Big Ten championships they won?
Edited by penn nation on 12-18-18 05:55 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Okoro Dude
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12-18-18 06:07 PM - Post#269387
In response to bradley
Would be fun to see them keep it close, but three things they have done well historically that they are not doing well at all this year will kill them against Duke:
1. Defensive rebounding
2. Transition defense
3. Guarding three-point line
The only way it's close is if they shoot lights out - hard to do that under pressure for 40 minutes
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palestra38
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Re: Duke 12-18-18 06:40 PM - Post#269395
In response to penn nation
A team that reaches the Final Game twice in a row is not overrated. Over-hyped? For sure.
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PennFan10
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12-18-18 06:44 PM - Post#269396
In response to palestra38
Yea, hard to say the Fab Five was over rated. They also had 3 of those five were All Stars in the NBA.
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SRP
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12-18-18 07:13 PM - Post#269399
In response to PennFan10
Near optimal start. Stephens getting off and backdoors galore. OK halfcourt D with a couple of blocks and a drawn charge.
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bradley
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12-18-18 07:25 PM - Post#269400
In response to SRP
Getting ball up court ok but passes are sloppy
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SRP
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12-18-18 07:27 PM - Post#269401
In response to bradley
I like the fight being shown at the defensive rim. Even when Duke gets second and third shots, the Tigers are denying anything easy. Don't know if Aririguzoh and Stephens can keep doing that without wearing down, but it's impressive.
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SRP
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12-18-18 07:33 PM - Post#269402
In response to SRP
Cannot buy a trey lately. Need Cannady to get off a little bit.
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penn nation
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Re: Duke 12-18-18 07:38 PM - Post#269403
In response to palestra38
Never won a single title of any kind.
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bradley
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12-18-18 07:40 PM - Post#269404
In response to SRP
Should be able to get Devin free for 3s
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