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Username Post: Duke        (Topic#22320)
Eric Von Zipper 
Sophomore
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Reg: 11-11-17
12-17-18 09:34 PM - Post#269325    

Opens Duke -29 1/2

 
sparman 
Masters Student
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sparman
Reg: 12-08-04
12-17-18 10:37 PM - Post#269328    
    In response to Eric Von Zipper

I'm having trouble understanding the need for a half point added to a 29 point spread.

 
penn nation 
Professor
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Reg: 12-02-04
12-17-18 10:43 PM - Post#269329    
    In response to sparman

For all we know it could have been heavy Princeton money bringing it down from 36.

 
bradley 
PhD Student
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Age: 70
Reg: 01-15-16
Re: Duke
12-17-18 10:51 PM - Post#269330    
    In response to Eric Von Zipper

I remember watching the Yale-Duke game with Yale up by 1 pt with 8 minutes left in the first half and thought that the Bulldogs were going to get killed as they simply could not handle Duke's pressure on Phils, Copeland and Oni as the primary ball handlers. Duke outscored Yale 50-24 in the 2nd half. It will be interesting to see if the Dukies do the same or worse to the Tigers. In a perfect world based on the height and size of the Duke front court, it would be better if the Tigers could go with just two guards, Llewellyn and Cannady with Arirguzoh, Much and Stephens up front but if the pressure is too much, Morales will be in there. It really comes down to how well Jaelin can handle the pressure as Morales may get engulfed by the size of Duke.

There is a possibility that Stephens may get limited playing time as he played only 23 minutes against Iona and something may be going on with his knee and/or legs. Tigers obviously need Myles who was the best player on the floor less than 2 years ago in the inaugural IvyMadness.

Nice to see Llewellyn get his first Ivy Rookie of the week award but hopefully, he gets player of the week awards as well especially during the IL season. Bella is now 2 for 2 for player of the week since returning from injury.

 
SRP 
Postdoc
Posts: 3827

Reg: 02-04-06
12-18-18 05:23 AM - Post#269336    
    In response to bradley

Important not to get rattled by dunks or turnovers and move on to the next play. This would be a great time to rediscover the wonders of accurate backdoor passing and hard cuts, but I don't think that can be turned on like a faucet when needed.

Probably need to mix up defenses to keep the young Duke players guessing. Barrett is basically unguardable one-on-one by anyone the Tigers have (Kentucky had that problem too) so man defense is going to be quite a challenge.

 
SRP 
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12-18-18 05:34 AM - Post#269337    
    In response to SRP

The Tigers sound like they are being realistic about their chances. Not sure that's an altogether good thing.

https://www.trentonian.com/sports/princeton-men- s-...

 
AntiUngvar 
Masters Student
Posts: 530

Age: 64
Loc: New York City
Reg: 07-23-18
12-18-18 09:21 AM - Post#269341    
    In response to SRP

They don't need to share their truest feelings with no any of us. Understated confidence may be best. Tigers will be fine.


 
bradley 
PhD Student
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Age: 70
Reg: 01-15-16
12-18-18 10:49 AM - Post#269343    
    In response to SRP

Probably the right attitude going into the game is to protect the ball, box out and most importantly, keep your composure. The likelihood of this game being close for the Tigers or any IL team is probably slim and none but hopefully it will be a learning experience.

Will be intersesting to see if Duke has 16 steals and the Tigers commit 23 turnovers like Yale did at Cameron.

You do not want to go into this game tight as it will make it even more difficult. Play it and put it in your scrap book.

 
SRP 
Postdoc
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Reg: 02-04-06
12-18-18 02:10 PM - Post#269366    
    In response to bradley

There's a difference between being loose and expecting to get blown out. Not being shattered by a likely loss is healthy; an "oh well, they're too good" mindset is not likely to be conducive to preventing a blowout in the first place.

 
bradley 
PhD Student
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Age: 70
Reg: 01-15-16
12-18-18 04:31 PM - Post#269377    
    In response to SRP

ESPN has put a piece if the Duke freshmen better than Michigan's Fab Five. Nice timing.

 
penn nation 
Professor
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Reg: 12-02-04
Duke
12-18-18 05:55 PM - Post#269386    
    In response to bradley

That so-called Fab Five group--highly, highly overrated. Could never stand the media attention they got or still get.

Forget the number of national championships they won (zero). Guess how many Big Ten championships they won?

Edited by penn nation on 12-18-18 05:55 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Okoro Dude 
Senior
Posts: 305

Loc: Glen Mills, PA
Reg: 11-24-04
12-18-18 06:07 PM - Post#269387    
    In response to bradley

Would be fun to see them keep it close, but three things they have done well historically that they are not doing well at all this year will kill them against Duke:
1. Defensive rebounding
2. Transition defense
3. Guarding three-point line
The only way it's close is if they shoot lights out - hard to do that under pressure for 40 minutes

 
palestra38 
Professor
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Reg: 11-21-04
Re: Duke
12-18-18 06:40 PM - Post#269395    
    In response to penn nation

A team that reaches the Final Game twice in a row is not overrated. Over-hyped? For sure.

 
PennFan10 
Postdoc
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Reg: 02-15-15
12-18-18 06:44 PM - Post#269396    
    In response to palestra38

Yea, hard to say the Fab Five was over rated. They also had 3 of those five were All Stars in the NBA.

 
SRP 
Postdoc
Posts: 3827

Reg: 02-04-06
12-18-18 07:13 PM - Post#269399    
    In response to PennFan10

Near optimal start. Stephens getting off and backdoors galore. OK halfcourt D with a couple of blocks and a drawn charge.

 
bradley 
PhD Student
Posts: 1171

Age: 70
Reg: 01-15-16
12-18-18 07:25 PM - Post#269400    
    In response to SRP

Getting ball up court ok but passes are sloppy

 
SRP 
Postdoc
Posts: 3827

Reg: 02-04-06
12-18-18 07:27 PM - Post#269401    
    In response to bradley

I like the fight being shown at the defensive rim. Even when Duke gets second and third shots, the Tigers are denying anything easy. Don't know if Aririguzoh and Stephens can keep doing that without wearing down, but it's impressive.

 
SRP 
Postdoc
Posts: 3827

Reg: 02-04-06
12-18-18 07:33 PM - Post#269402    
    In response to SRP

Cannot buy a trey lately. Need Cannady to get off a little bit.

 
penn nation 
Professor
Posts: 13008

Reg: 12-02-04
Re: Duke
12-18-18 07:38 PM - Post#269403    
    In response to palestra38

Never won a single title of any kind.

 
bradley 
PhD Student
Posts: 1171

Age: 70
Reg: 01-15-16
12-18-18 07:40 PM - Post#269404    
    In response to SRP

Should be able to get Devin free for 3s

 
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