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Username Post: Nice Jake Silpe Article        (Topic#22327)
palestra38 
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12-19-18 05:56 PM - Post#269486    

http://www.philly.com/sports/jake-silpe-pen n-quake...

 
SRP 
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12-19-18 07:17 PM - Post#269488    
    In response to palestra38

Great stuff.

 
Penndemonium 
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12-19-18 08:11 PM - Post#269489    
    In response to SRP

So many stories of great sports and personal character on this team. What a change from several years ago.

There is a video interview of Brodeur as well (about halfway down the page)l:

https://ivyleague.com





 
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12-19-18 10:01 PM - Post#269493    
    In response to Penndemonium

And here’s some interesting news about Karl Racine:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2018/12/...
Leges sine moribus vanae


 
penn nation 
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12-19-18 10:25 PM - Post#269496    
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Yeah, there was an earlier post on the OTB (although probably belonged here in the first place).

Nice to see you here, P90!

 
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12-20-18 10:32 AM - Post#269514    
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Thanks, Penn Nation. I lurk here all the time but when I post a comment I have an uncanny knack for killing the thread so I usually don't chime in!
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palestra38 
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12-20-18 11:11 AM - Post#269521    
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It's become a fun place to lurk for the first time in ages.

 
penn nation 
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12-20-18 11:56 AM - Post#269531    
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Also nice that Penn scheduled a few contests at the Palestra so that the senior Silpe could have his family attend a few games.

 
pennsive 
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12-20-18 03:00 PM - Post#269544    
    In response to SRP

Apropos articles, for those not familiar with the site, go to phillycollegesports.com. Good write-ups about the Villanova game and other Penn games. The Intensity and thrilling finish of the game against Nova were reminiscent of Ron Haigler’s turn around jumper to beat St Joes and Mark Zoller’s foul shots to beat Temple. Other Big Five games come to mind?

 
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12-20-18 08:47 PM - Post#269559    
    In response to pennsive

I remember the Haigler shot - I kissed the guy next to me who I did not know. You could do that in the 70s.

 
LyleGold 
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Nice Jake Silpe Article
12-20-18 08:48 PM - Post#269560    
    In response to pennsive

Oh yeah, how about Anthony Arnolie making ten straight foul shots in the last couple minutes to knock off John Pinone's #10 ranked Villanova? Stewart Granger, as well as the core of Nova's '85 championship team, were also on that squad. Undoubtedly the highlight of the Littlepage era.

 
LyleGold 
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Nice Jake Silpe Article
12-20-18 08:56 PM - Post#269562    
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  • Penn90 Said:
And here’s some interesting news about Karl Racine:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2018/12/...



My sister, who lives in the District, sent me an article from The DC Line this morning about Karl's Facebook lawsuit. It included this tidbit:

— Karl Racine is building a level of national stature not achieved among DC pols since Adrian Fenty. He was already winning headlines for an emoluments clause lawsuit against President Donald Trump, which a judge ruled can advance last month. Racine holds tight relationships with many other of his Democratic counterparts in other states, and he just finished a term as co-chair of the Democratic Attorneys General Association, whose current executive director Sean Rankin is close with Racine, having been a top adviser to his 2014 campaign and Robert White in 2016.

“If he continues to make big national headlines, he will be on the shortlist for US Attorney General by a number of the 2020 Democratic presidential candidates,” Josh Brown, political consultant with DP Strategies, wrote in an email to DL.

My response was,"I'm all for that. We'd go from an Iowa football player who just got the clearance to oversee (and try to fire) Mueller to a Penn basketball player who has Trump clearly in his sights."

Now that Jerome has fallen from grace, maybe Karl Racine can fill the vacancy on the Mt. Rushmore of Quaker greats.

Oh, and by the way, Karl played in that victory over Villanova as well.

 
Silver Maple 
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12-20-18 09:35 PM - Post#269566    
    In response to LyleGold

Karl was a very steady point guard. Not flashy, but very little seemed to phase him.

 
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12-20-18 10:51 PM - Post#269573    
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  • palestra38 Said:
It's become a fun place to lurk for the first time in ages.



But, is there enough fun for Howard Gensler to come back?

 
UPIA1968 
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Re: Jake
12-20-18 10:57 PM - Post#269574    
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In the current team, we have Jake, Devon, and Max all demonstrating significant year-to-year development. Good players matriculate, players get noticeably better, team plays beautifully together. All signs of great coaching. Let's hope that Steve at his age is content to stay.

 
10Q 
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12-21-18 07:35 AM - Post#269579    
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The administration needs to work on making him content to stay.

 
palestra38 
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12-21-18 09:03 AM - Post#269581    
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I doubt at this stage of his life, after he went for ACC glory, that we have much to worry about.

 
TheLine 
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12-21-18 09:06 AM - Post#269584    
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My thoughts are the same. Donahue isn't going anywhere. We have the same situation our friends up in Cambridge have.


 
10Q 
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12-21-18 09:18 AM - Post#269585    
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I see no reason not to make sure this guy is very happy.

 
TheLine 
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12-21-18 09:40 AM - Post#269589    
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Absolutely agree on that. Donahue is a fantastic coach. I'm completely sold on him.


 
palestra38 
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12-21-18 09:41 AM - Post#269590    
    In response to 10Q

No disagreement on that. I am sure we are keeping him happy.

 
Silver Maple 
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12-21-18 10:08 AM - Post#269593    
    In response to palestra38

Unlike our last AD, who couldn't stand the fact that some of the coaches were getting more recognition than he did, this one seems to be able to keep her ego in check. I imagine she'll do everything she can to keep Steve happy.

 
LyleGold 
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12-21-18 10:58 AM - Post#269597    
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  • TheLine Said:
My thoughts are the same. Donahue isn't going anywhere. We have the same situation our friends up in Cambridge have.




The big difference is that we're "stuck" with a great coach while they have a great recruiter who uses questionable methods and often seems befuddled on the sidelines.

In addition, Donahue has a child whose medical needs are best served at an institution like Children's Hospital, which factored into his decision to come to Penn in the first place. Nonetheless, we need to make absolutely sure that he feels content that this will be his final stop on the coaching carousel.

 
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Re: Nice Jake Silpe Article
12-21-18 11:09 AM - Post#269599    
    In response to LyleGold

I'm a DC resident too and I couldn't help but notice that Racine got more votes from voters when he ran for reelection this November than the unpopular Muriel Bowser did in her reelection campaign for mayor.

Assuming he is not US Attorney General in 2020 I wonder if he would consider running for mayor in 2022?
Leges sine moribus vanae


 
palestra38 
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Re: Nice Jake Silpe Article
12-21-18 11:28 AM - Post#269608    
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Why would he do that? He's made the DC AG job far more high profile than DC Mayor, where the only thing that gets national attention is when the B**ch sets him up.

 
LyleGold 
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Re: Nice Jake Silpe Article
12-21-18 11:42 AM - Post#269618    
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  • palestra38 Said:
Why would he do that? He's made the DC AG job far more high profile than DC Mayor, where the only thing that gets national attention is when the B**ch sets him up.



Wow, that sure brings back memories. Back in the Marion Barry days, my sister was working for a lobbying firm in DC and had frequent encounters with him. She told me about a boating party on the Tidal Basin where the water wasn't the only thing flowing in abundance.

 
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Re: Nice Jake Silpe Article
12-21-18 12:19 PM - Post#269626    
    In response to palestra38

Because being the DC AG doesn't lead anywhere else typically. Going from AG to mayor would be a pretty nice jump for him.
Leges sine moribus vanae


 
palestra38 
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Re: Nice Jake Silpe Article
12-21-18 12:26 PM - Post#269627    
    In response to Penn90

I think he's made himself sufficiently high profile to obtain national office upon a Democratic takeover of the White House....but we'll see.

 
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12-21-18 12:36 PM - Post#269628    
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  • LyleGold Said:
  • TheLine Said:
My thoughts are the same. Donahue isn't going anywhere. We have the same situation our friends up in Cambridge have.




The big difference is that we're "stuck" with a great coach while they have a great recruiter who uses questionable methods and often seems befuddled on the sidelines.





this quote made me cringe. I think we both have great coaches but if I had to pick, Tommy has the better resume. Steve looked like a total ham and egger at Boston College. To his credit, he resolved to learn from it and has, thus far, done very well.

And let's all move on from friggin pickup games and supermarket check ins. Questionable methods. We're living in the day and age of bags of cash and stupid, arbitrary rules set up by stupid, arbitrary, and corrupt organizations.



 
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12-21-18 12:42 PM - Post#269629    
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If the team continues to perform as well as it has, I expect the recruiting gap between Penn and Harvard to narrow considerably.

 
palestra38 
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12-21-18 12:44 PM - Post#269630    
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Agree on pretty much all of this. I see no reason ever to question Amaker (other than his Belichick-like concealment of injuries) or his motivations/methods. I do think Steve is a better strategic coach and think that the BC job was a no-win pretty much for anyone. But irrespective of resume, it's how they do it on the court, and right now, both are at the top of the league.

 
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12-21-18 12:51 PM - Post#269631    
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mike, do you think Tommy takes into account fit with his methods or his current roster?

and does that question matter less when you are fishing in the top 100? the top 200? What I mean is, even if Mo Bamba doesn't really fit with Penn, you'd take him and then figure it out.

Is that the case for all top 100 players or no?

 
LyleGold 
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12-21-18 04:13 PM - Post#269677    
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  • Jeff2sf Said:
  • LyleGold Said:
  • TheLine Said:
My thoughts are the same. Donahue isn't going anywhere. We have the same situation our friends up in Cambridge have.




The big difference is that we're "stuck" with a great coach while they have a great recruiter who uses questionable methods and often seems befuddled on the sidelines.





this quote made me cringe. I think we both have great coaches but if I had to pick, Tommy has the better resume. Steve looked like a total ham and egger at Boston College. To his credit, he resolved to learn from it and has, thus far, done very well.

And let's all move on from friggin pickup games and supermarket check ins. Questionable methods. We're living in the day and age of bags of cash and stupid, arbitrary rules set up by stupid, arbitrary, and corrupt organizations.





So you would choose Amaker over Donahue? Fine, you can have him. I’m happy with our guy and wouldn’t swap them no matter how much ham and eggs you throw in or whatever you’re talking about. You’re discounting what he did at Cornell and focusing on BC, which in the ACC is a coach’s burial ground much like Rutgers in the Big Ten. Steve got Cornell - CORNELL! - to the Sweet 16, which tops anything Amaker did at Michigan or Seton Hall. Are you one of those guys who claims Jeff Foote fell into Donahue’s lap because of his mother and Ryan Wittman was pure luck, too? If anyone let his talent carry him and generally underachieved with it, I’d say it was Amaker. Sure, the whole Zach Rosen episode and other shenanigans revealed things about him, but the main factor was Harvard’s decision to suddenly give the basketball program nearly free rein with admissions and de facto scholarships with financial aid. At a place like that and conditions like those, I think Donahue would have achieved more.


 
Quakers03 
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Nice Jake Silpe Article
12-21-18 04:17 PM - Post#269681    
    In response to LyleGold

I have to admit I never understood the swoop in and defend-Amaker-at-all-cost that seems to come from a few people around here. I have my own thoughts as to why this is the case but nevertheless find it quite interesting.

 
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12-21-18 04:33 PM - Post#269685    
    In response to LyleGold

My opinion and $2.50 will get you a ride on the SEPTA or something like that, but I don't actually think it's possible to compare Amaker and Donahue.

Amaker runs the Harvard program like a Chairman and CEO, while Donahue operates Penn basketball like a COO would. Amaker's known for his vision, building bridges to the Harvard community and swaying highly talented kids to come play for him. Donahue is known for his analytical mind, approach to the game and ridiculous ability on the coaching/Xs and Os front.

They're just not very good comps for each other. Both have been successful in their own way.

 
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12-21-18 04:55 PM - Post#269689    
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I'm totally sorry I started this. Wasn't my intention. Have learned my lesson.

Love that Jake hung in there to see it pay dividends. It's a hallmark of a Donahue team.


 
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12-21-18 05:40 PM - Post#269692    
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What are you saying q03? I defend tommy for two reasons. 1. Because there’s a little tinge of race stuff going on whenever a successful African American coaches are denigrated”befuddled”. Do I think Lyle is being racist? No. But it makes me uncomfortable.

2. My defense of amaker started when we had crappy coaching for 7 years and it looked unbecoming for us, in basketball hell, to talk about a maker being bad.

I don’t really think one sweet sixteen run means much they won two games where they were about 30-40% to win. It was one weekend. Seems like it happens once a year to a team then the coach goes to a power 5 job and gets exposed.

 
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12-22-18 12:24 AM - Post#269713    
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My two cents are always less informed than mike’s, but nonetheless . . . I think Amaker has generally recruited to system, or at least focused on playing a certain clear style. However, over the past five years or so, perhaps as Harvard gets access to higher rated players, it seems like they’ve started to get some talented guys who don’t fit together quite as well. But who knows — could be that i’m Grasping to explain the results not being quite as good.

On the quality of coaching thing, I am of the opinion that Donahue and Amaker are both very good coaches. I wouldn’t trade Donahue for Amaker, so in that sense I agree with Lyle. But I think Amaker is tremendous. I agree with Mike in the sense that both coaches have very different strengths (and I would add the caveat that a good coach doesn’t have to be perfect at everything). However, I think he probably under rates Amaker on the Xs and Os.

 
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12-22-18 06:57 AM - Post#269717    
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I’m not a big fan of Amaker, but what is undeniable is that he has made the Harvard program relevant. All things considered, the league is better off for it.

 
Quakers03 
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Nice Jake Silpe Article
12-22-18 07:48 AM - Post#269720    
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  • Jeff2sf Said:
What are you saying q03? I defend tommy for two reasons. 1. Because there’s a little tinge of race stuff going on whenever a successful African American coaches are denigrated”befuddled”. Do I think Lyle is being racist? No. But it makes me uncomfortable.


You said it perfectly yourself and it continues to be the wrong and dangerous opinion. It’s obvious that this drives your defense of his game coaching ability and it infuriates me. It’s not possible that the observation of him being a below average game coach is just that, an observation? It HAS to be driven by some other, if even just a “tinge”, agenda? I believe mrjames settled the x and o debate between the two when he said that Steve is a “ridiculous” x and o guy. This continues to be a bad look for you, Jeff. I’m sorry that it makes you uncomfortable but I’d like to think a place like this is a bit further along on topics like this than most. I could run off a list of horrific white coaches too. It has absolutely nothing to do with race and I continue to find the insinuation insulting.

As for the supermarket incident, yes a lot of it was sour grapes but it was also slimey and wrong and he deserves to be mocked for it. Issues like this make for better sports rivalries.

 
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12-22-18 08:54 AM - Post#269722    
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It’s a bad look to defend the most successful coach of the last 15 years? You and I have different definitions of looks.

But listen if this is just “sports rivalries” talking then fine.

The defense comes primarily from sour grapes spot even if I listed it 2nd.

Now that I’m at it, I’ll add a 3rd: I think “x’s and o’s” are overrated. Glen miller was allegedly a good x and o coach and it meant nothing. Fran was fairly poor at it but was a great recruiter and often great at prepping his team(I don’t think he was good at adjustments which falls under this).

Steve has been awesome thus far. Full stop. Job isn’t done. Plus, i have been excited by recruiting classes in like 11 out of the past 10 years.

 
Quakers03 
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12-22-18 09:10 AM - Post#269723    
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It’s a bad look to bring race into the discussion at all. Full stop.

 
Jeff2sf 
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12-22-18 09:26 AM - Post#269724    
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Considering your political views I can’t believe you’d be so naive. We have a full racist or racist adjacent guy in That one guy on the OT board.

I’m very comfortable in your motives. Less so of others.

 
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12-22-18 09:51 AM - Post#269727    
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Jeff, I agree with you on many things but you lost me at that Donahue-Miller comparison.

I do agree that Amaker is way underrated. I believe he can take over a major program and succeed. I think he's better at X-and-O coaching than many give him credit for. I don't think he's superior to Donahue with his in-game strategy but would agree that's not as major a part of being a successful coach as other things.


 
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12-22-18 10:09 AM - Post#269728    
    In response to Quakers03

yes, that was poor taste and out of the blue.

 
TheLine 
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Nice Jake Silpe Article
12-22-18 10:55 AM - Post#269731    
    In response to Charlie Fog

I must have either misread Jeff's post or he later clarified it because I don't see anything there that I'd disagree with. Apologies if I misread.

Except Miller wasn't a good x-and-o coach in the way Donahue is. Miller was supposedly a master of drawing up plays but that doesn't make him a good x-and-o coach when the plays put players in a position to fail. A play designed to get Harrison Gaines open for a 3 isn't a good play. Blaming Gaines for missing the 3 makes it worse. Donahue on the other hand puts players in a position to succeed - he's been masterful at this.


 
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12-22-18 10:55 AM - Post#269732    
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  • Streamers Said:
I’m not a big fan of Amaker, but what is undeniable is that he has made the Harvard program relevant. All things considered, the league is better off for it.



I agree with everything in this post, including the punctuation. If it weren't for what Harvard and Amaker started doing when they hired him, neither the league nor Penn would be where they are today.

 
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Re: Nice Jake Silpe Article
12-22-18 10:58 AM - Post#269734    
    In response to TheLine

That is fair, the line. I said allegedly with miller.


Also for my own well being I need to have some reason in my mind why satans spawn was hired.

 
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Re: Nice Jake Silpe Article
12-22-18 02:36 PM - Post#269745    
    In response to Jeff2sf

Two things I disagree with from this thread:

1) Amaker is NOT a good game coach. He's a great motivator, and he always gets his kids playing hard (there are a LOT of games I can remember where Harvard was playing horribly, down huge, could have reasonably given up and somehow scratched out a single-digit loss with at least one point where you said, they're actually in this game). But jamming the motion offense into high PnR down the throats of every lineup he's had has led to a LOT of bad execution through the years (specifically some inept second units that would have benefited from more structure and clear possession goals). He way too often matches the opponents moves (which gives them the advantage) versus playing lineups that would make the opponents uncomfortable, even if they would have small advantages in some areas. Defensively, he gets cute with exotic looks that just don't work and frequently will end up with lineups on the floor that don't work well together in rotation. Amaker's recruiting is (some large number)-times more important than those game strategy nits, but I'm surprised to hear how many folks think he's a good game coach.

2) Penn shouldn't complain about AI standards. Like at all. Trust me - you don't want to trade with Harvard, Princeton or Yale. The FA stuff is fine, there's an argument to be made there, but the AI stuff is *way* off base.

 
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12-22-18 02:54 PM - Post#269746    
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Telling it like it is....

 
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12-22-18 04:07 PM - Post#269757    
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  • Quote:
Penn shouldn't complain about AI standards. Like at all. Trust me - you don't want to trade with Harvard, Princeton or Yale. The FA stuff is fine, there's an argument to be made there, but the AI stuff is *way* off base.



Someday I hope HYP finally get what they really want: a three-team league that just competes among themselves because they’re so unduly burdened by their association with the other five.


 
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Re: Nice Jake Silpe Article
12-22-18 04:13 PM - Post#269758    
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Can you tells us about Harvard's "Winter Coat" program?

 
palestra38 
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Re: Nice Jake Silpe Article
12-22-18 05:23 PM - Post#269779    
    In response to Old Bear

What a great bleeping post!

 
Quakers03 
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12-22-18 09:13 PM - Post#269913    
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I'm in the dark on this reference. But I did enjoy mrjames putting an end to this argument once and for all.

 
palestra38 
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12-22-18 09:25 PM - Post#269916    
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https://college.harvard.edu/admissions/hear-our-s t...

It was a sarcastic play at Mike's dismissal (in the most part) of Harvard's financial advantage, which they now are using as a major inducement to basketball recruits. And it is a FAR greater factor than any AI advantage that Penn has. Harvard manages to get a team that never would have been admitted under the prior coach. I don't really complain about the AI. But again, it isn't hamstringing Harvard in any serious way, when they can beat any other Ivy team for a recruit by trotting out the Harvard name and not only a free ride, but a free coat.

 
LyleGold 
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12-22-18 09:29 PM - Post#269918    
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I have no idea what the "winter coat" reference is about and would like an explanation - especially if it's another shot at Harvard's "creative" approach to the rules. By the way, nobody included the cheating scandal of a few years ago in the Crimson rap sheet.

I also appreciate mrjames providing an insightful analysis of Amaker's sideline coaching acumen. It reads like a textbook definition of "befuddled".

 
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12-22-18 10:28 PM - Post#269920    
    In response to LyleGold

Penn is 10-2, the clear Ivy favorite and will be even better next year. Who cares about Harvard?

 
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12-22-18 11:04 PM - Post#269924    
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It is one of three clear favorites.



 
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