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Username Post: Arizona State        (Topic#22368)
Eric Von Zipper 
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12-28-18 09:01 PM - Post#270280    

Opens Sun Devils -16 1/2

 
bradley 
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Re: Arizona State
12-28-18 10:02 PM - Post#270282    
    In response to Eric Von Zipper

Spread is less than I anticipated -- not sure why. 3 of 4 IL teams are road underdogs tomorrow with the Tigers leading the pack at 16 1/2.

Let's see if Morales get gobbled up like the Dukies did to him in Durham. Tigers play best when he is in the game but it requires a team without the size, length and strenth of ASU. It will be interesting to see if the Tigers learned anything from the Duke rout.

Good news is that Jaelin is enjoying his Princeton experience and probably will rachet up his game during the IL season.

 
SRP 
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12-29-18 04:47 AM - Post#270289    
    In response to bradley

Pretty lame that this game isn't even on FS1 or other channel that carries the important PAC-12 stuff. The PACN channel must have the reach of a pirate radio station if it's not carried on DirecTV.

 
Eric Von Zipper 
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Re: Arizona State
12-29-18 02:47 PM - Post#270296    
    In response to bradley

It's actually drifted down to ASU -14 1/2.

Unsure how to interpret that. Sun Devils just knocked off #1 Kansas.

 
Eric Von Zipper 
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Re: Arizona State
12-29-18 02:54 PM - Post#270297    
    In response to bradley

Penn getting 4 from Toledo really surprising.

After taking apart New Mexico in the Pit in workmen like fashion I figger them a top 25 team.

Unless I'm missing something, taking the points today is a take it to the bank best bet.


 
bradley 
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Re: Arizona State
12-29-18 03:03 PM - Post#270298    
    In response to Eric Von Zipper

You are scaring me. I have a wager on Toledo giving points.

 
Eric Von Zipper 
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Age: 66
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Re: Arizona State
12-29-18 03:07 PM - Post#270300    
    In response to bradley

My man buys me a drink most Tuesday nights so don't make too much of my bet on the Quackers.

I go wherever I perceive value takes me.

 
westcoast 
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12-29-18 04:50 PM - Post#270364    
    In response to Eric Von Zipper

Stephens and Gladson are not dressed for today’s game.

 
bradley 
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Re: Arizona State
12-29-18 04:53 PM - Post#270366    
    In response to Eric Von Zipper

No surprise that Toledo won other than margin of victory.

 
gokinsmen 
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12-29-18 05:08 PM - Post#270368    
    In response to westcoast

  • westcoast Said:
Stephens and Gladson are not dressed for today’s game.


Uh-oh. This could really get out of hand...again.

 
gokinsmen 
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Arizona State
12-29-18 06:04 PM - Post#270375    
    In response to gokinsmen

37-30 lead! What a half. Probably get creamed in the 2nd half, but this is a really nice "bounce back" after the brutal Duke loss. They can hang with good teams.

Even without Stephens, the defense is the best I've seen it this season. I like the willingness to foul, which MH explicitly avoids in other games. I've always been a big proponent of heavily fouling elite teams on the road -- it takes away their momentum and quiets the crowd with boring stoppages and FT parades.

Even without hot 3pt shooting, they're finding ways to score. Is this the game that finally gets Desrosiers going? By far his best game all season. Like I said, we probably get crunched in the 2nd half, but this is a good sign heading into league play.

 
TigerFan 
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12-29-18 06:07 PM - Post#270376    
    In response to gokinsmen

Tigers up 7 (!) at the half without Miles Stephens. Sun Devils may be a little punch drunk after beating #1 Kansas. Jerome with 12, Devin with 8, Richmond with 8. Very foul happy first half--24 total fouls and 9 players with 2 or more.

 
TigerFan 
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Re: Arizona State
12-29-18 06:09 PM - Post#270377    
    In response to gokinsmen

Hey gokinsman, Are you able to watch this game? I couldn't access Pac 12 Network because they don't seem to carry Verizon subscribers. Why is this game not on ESPN or FS1 or even the miserable ESPN+?

Edited by TigerFan on 12-29-18 06:10 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Chip Bayers 
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12-29-18 06:09 PM - Post#270378    
    In response to gokinsmen

Addition by subtraction given Stephens has had such a slow start offensively this year?


 
bradley 
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Re: Arizona State
12-29-18 06:11 PM - Post#270379    
    In response to gokinsmen

Agree although ASU is flat as a pancake. The danger in being overly confident. Hurley will have them come out flying in the 2nd half in all likelihood.

Most important thing is that DesRosiers, Arirguzoh and Much are playing well and it is incredibly important that either DesRosiers or Much turn the corner for the IL season. Jaelin is off on scoring points but the Tigers need him to step up in the 2nd half.

Let's see if the Tigers do not perform the 2nd half IL collapse routine against exceptional teams.

 
gokinsmen 
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Re: Arizona State
12-29-18 06:13 PM - Post#270380    
    In response to TigerFan

Yes! I'm on the west coast for now, so I have access. If you need a temporary link, you can probably find one online *cough* ncaaBBallStreams *cough*.

 
gokinsmen 
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Arizona State
12-29-18 06:16 PM - Post#270381    
    In response to Chip Bayers

The only thing I can think of is the old "Patrick Ewing" theory -- injury to a major cog forces other guys to step up in the short-term. Desrosiers (like Much) has gotten good looks all season...they just haven't fallen. Today, the same shots he missed before are going down.

 
TigerFan 
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Re: Arizona State
12-29-18 06:23 PM - Post#270383    
    In response to gokinsmen

got it!

 
TigerFan 
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Reg: 11-21-04
12-29-18 06:24 PM - Post#270384    
    In response to TigerFan

Hate these 3-pt play opportunities for ASU

 
Eric Von Zipper 
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Age: 66
Reg: 11-11-17
Re: Arizona State
12-29-18 06:33 PM - Post#270385    
    In response to bradley

HOLY TOLEDO!!!!!!

 
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