Old Bear
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12-29-18 11:01 PM - Post#270430
Brown in a blow out.
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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12-29-18 11:07 PM - Post#270433
In response to Old Bear
Very impressive!
Brown blows out a top 100 team on the road!
Princeton beats ASU on the road!
Looking like a legitimate 5 team race!
Exciting, but with Penn’s tough loss 2 bid Ivy is most unlikely.
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JBears
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12-29-18 11:18 PM - Post#270434
In response to Old Bear
I don’t recall seeing the Bears play a more complete game in 58 years of watching Brown Basketball. That was probably the greatest half in history. We got up on the 1973 Final Four Providence Friars of Ernie D and Marvin Barns by 19 to 2 as a stunned Providence Civic Center was brought to silence aside from boos. But they caught us in the second half and won the game. And I believe we lead Princeton and Bill Bradley at the half in Marvel Gym one year. But tonight had to be the best half of Brown Basketball ever. The shot selection and ball movement was superb. And the defense continues to distinguish itself. Extend to three point line but are also able to make it tough to get to the hoop. Aztecs were shooting 41% from three but were in the 20+ % range tonight. Martin really has the group playing on all cylinders and with great confidence. Quite an unbelievable effort by Brown standards.
Go Bears!!!
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mountainred
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12-30-18 11:37 AM - Post#270459
In response to JBears
Wow. Just wow. Great win for the Bears!
Not that it matters, but I now believe.
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TigerFan
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12-30-18 12:31 PM - Post#270469
In response to mountainred
Nice win.
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Bruno
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SDSU 12-30-18 10:10 PM - Post#270529
In response to JBears
I agree. It was - maybe sadly - one of the best games Brown has played since the advent of the shot clock m. Between this one and Marist, when’s the last time you’ve seen Brown knock off two good teams on the road by 20+? Dominant.
LET'S go BRU-no (duh. nuh. nuh-nuh-nuh) |
Edited by Bruno on 12-30-18 10:11 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Chip Bayers
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12-31-18 01:40 PM - Post#270563
In response to Bruno
Any 20+ point road win is praiseworthy, but Marist is not a good team at a current #226 Pomeroy.
The way to back up the quality of the SDSU game is to take down Yale in a few weeks!
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Bruno
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12-31-18 05:19 PM - Post#270684
In response to Chip Bayers
Good is relative. Put it this way. Brown was KenPom’d to lose by 2. Brown’s history of winning road games vs. teams in the 200 range has been poor. They beat the 280s on the road - sometimes. But not the 200s, which is the range in which Marist was at the time of the game.
LET'S go BRU-no (duh. nuh. nuh-nuh-nuh) |
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SRP
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12-31-18 05:21 PM - Post#270685
In response to Bruno
When a dangerous offensive team starts playing consistent defense, good things usually happen.
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PennFan10
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01-01-19 12:57 PM - Post#270738
In response to SRP
When a dangerous offensive team starts playing consistent defense, good things usually happen.
Careful, this team is KP #60 on defense (best in the IL) and #225 on offense (2nd worst in IL). "dangerous" on offense is not how I would describe THIS year's Brown team.
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PennFan10
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01-01-19 12:58 PM - Post#270739
In response to PennFan10
A particularly nice win when the losing team pays the winning team $80k to participate.
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SRP
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01-01-19 04:27 PM - Post#270753
In response to PennFan10
I used "dangerous" rather than "efficient" because Anderson and Cambridge are capable of exploding offensively. There have been times over his career when Cambridge seems unaffected by the defense and just scores at will. So while the Bears haven't looked great this season offensively I would never go into a conference game feeling safe.
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SomeGuy
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01-01-19 04:37 PM - Post#270755
In response to PennFan10
Yes, Brown is still 7th offensively in the league this year. Same as last year. They have a couple of guys who can create for themselves and can go off, which makes for some variance and sometimes the impression that they are better offensively than they are. But they are not particularly efficient. The consistency on defense this year is what is winning games for them. That criticism said, I admit I appear to have been totally wrong about their prospects for this year. They’ve made a big leap this year, as most of the board thought they might.
Could be a different dynamic in the league this year, where 6-8 isn’t going to get you in the tournament. And could also be a year with more bunching in the middle, where anyone can beat anyone. Nobody in the bottom 100 right now, and only Columbia and Cornell are anywhere close.
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Bruno
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SDSU 01-01-19 06:37 PM - Post#270767
In response to SomeGuy
I expect bunching. It’s not parity but any of the top five can beat any of the rest of them on the road.
Brown is dangerous on offense because they probably have higher variance potential. That said, Cambridge is really the one guy who enables that. When he is on in the way only he can be, it yields double-digit victories. Choh has some of that too. This is not even a very good offensive team. But it’s a team that can put 85 on you with little warning.
The reason for their record has been their consistently outstanding performance on defense. The two most ‘impressive’ victories happened when they had the outstanding defensive outcome and had one high variance offensive performance.
LET'S go BRU-no (duh. nuh. nuh-nuh-nuh) |
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SomeGuy
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Re: SDSU 01-01-19 06:47 PM - Post#270770
In response to Bruno
Agreed about parity — there is a clear pecking order, but everyone is good enough to be very dangerous to everyone else at home. The top four presumably will be favorites against each other at home. Curious to see the line for Penn/Princeton.
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