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Username Post: At Northwestern, 5pm, EST , today.        (Topic#22377)
AntiUngvar 
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12-30-18 11:22 PM - Post#270534    
    In response to PennFan10

Good point.


 
weinhauers_ghost 
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12-30-18 11:44 PM - Post#270535    
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  • AntiUngvar Said:
They're a dead horse to you, anyway. But with 16:26 left in the first half, CU's up 6-4, and, more noteworthy, Randy Brumant already has 4 rebounds- I like it!



Hey, I am well aware of the long history of very good Penn teams coming into Levien and playing as if they'd recently contracted sleeping sickness.

If I'd had the chance, I'd have watched today's game out of simple curiosity. I like to see our conference adversaries in non-conference games.

 
Chet Forte 
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12-30-18 11:52 PM - Post#270537    
    In response to weinhauers_ghost

If we had Meisner and Smith we would be having a different conversation. I really like the way Tape has been stepping up. But we still need to win the three point battle and three points on the road are sometimes tough.


 
AntiUngvar 
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12-30-18 11:57 PM - Post#270538    
    In response to weinhauers_ghost

You don't take the chance and fall asleep when Steve Donahue's around; unless you're stuck in Toledo, Ohio and it's practically New Year's Day- in which case who could possibly blame you?


 
penn nation 
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12-30-18 11:58 PM - Post#270539    
    In response to internetter

Used to be an institution. WGN stands for World's Greatest Newspaper (when it was owned by the Trib). Aired Cubs games for too many decades to count.

  • internetter Said:
Make that 720 AM in Chicago




 
internetter 
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12-31-18 01:43 PM - Post#270565    
    In response to PennFan10

the committee looks at the ratings toward the end of the season. Now, they're so changeable to be useless; witness #1 recently)
west coast fan


 
Chip Bayers 
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At Northwestern, 5pm, EST , today.
12-31-18 01:46 PM - Post#270567    
    In response to internetter

  • internetter Said:
the committee looks at the ratings toward the end of the season. Now, they're so changeable to be useless; witness #1 recently)



You seem to be talking about media-voted rankings. PF10 is discussing statistical ratings.

There’s a difference.


Edited by Chip Bayers on 12-31-18 01:46 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
internetter 
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Re: At Northwestern, 5pm, EST , today.
12-31-18 03:47 PM - Post#270629    
    In response to Chip Bayers

You're right, of course! Too many polls for me.
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internetter 
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12-31-18 03:55 PM - Post#270641    
    In response to internetter

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/aztecs...
west coast fan


 
mrjames 
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12-31-18 07:59 PM - Post#270699    
    In response to internetter

Just cycling through old posts - this is a really ignorant view of ratings. The StDev on college games is about 8 pts. That’s about as good as any ratings system can do, and it means that 1) 5% of the time the actual result will be more than 16 points from the projected value and that 32% of the time it will be more than 8 points either way from the projected value.

These ratings are still useful for more than just discussion, though. They are incredibly well calibrated on average (ie- games where a team is predicted to win 70% of the time, those games over the long run have an average win pct of ~70%). When you know the average and the error, you have a pretty good model, and that’s what ratings are today. Now, maybe that’s also what you meant by “good for discussion,” but it’s important to note that these would be considered very strong, empirically-backed models.

 
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