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Eric Von Zipper 
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01-01-19 12:14 PM - Post#270728    

Expecting the opening line noon Friday.

 
SRP 
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01-01-19 04:00 PM - Post#270750    
    In response to Eric Von Zipper

So weird having the big rivalry games at the beginning of the season. It would seem fitting if the two teams could meet in the IL tournament, an ironic restoration of tradition by that which destroyed it.

 
SRP 
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01-01-19 04:07 PM - Post#270751    
    In response to SRP

As to what this game will look like, I have no idea. Still hard to get a fix on this edition of the Tigers, and Penn has ranged from terrific (mostly) to pretty bad (lately). But as a fan I'm visualizing a night of hot three-point shooting for Princeton and scrappy defensive play leading to a solid home win.

 
bradley 
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01-01-19 05:53 PM - Post#270762    
    In response to SRP

Good question as to what to expect. I visualize an incredibly hard and well played women's game at 2pm perhaps better quality play than the men's game at 5pm. Probably the two best women's IL players will square off st 6'4" centers to determine outcome. Edge goes to Tigers -- homecourt, Alarie and most importantly Banghart.

Crowd will probably be sparse as the game means less in the past plus students do not return until Sunday and the Princeton community is somewhat indifferent. Unfortunately, there will be a fair number of visitors from the "City of Brotherly Love". The scheduling of these games partially due to IvyMadness is "madness" in keeping with the concept of the year-end tournament.

As to the men's game, who knows? My guess is that Arirguzoh and Brodeur will be a key match up and it would be helpful if Gladson returns if the ref calls it tight. It will also be interesting if Woods guards Cannady or Llewellyn. Also, the dynamics will change for the Tigers -- small team vs large team dependent on status of Rotschild and Wang. Tigers can go either way but they need DesRosier abd/or Much to play well to go large. Good be a coaching battle and Donahue is impressive.

 
penn nation 
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01-01-19 06:49 PM - Post#270771    
    In response to bradley

I imagine Woods will start on Cannady (more physical) but would not be surprised if he gets switched to the hot shot rookie if needed.

Goodman certainly has the speed to keep up with Llwellyn, if not as solid all around on D as Woods.

Edited by penn nation on 01-01-19 06:51 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
SomeGuy 
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01-01-19 06:52 PM - Post#270772    
    In response to penn nation

I’m the opposite. I think Goodman has Cannady. Foreman had him last year.

Is Stephens playing? That’s the other question defensively. Woods could actually end up on him as well, if no Rothschild/Wang.

 
penn nation 
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01-01-19 07:06 PM - Post#270773    
    In response to SomeGuy

I feel like Goodman would not be physical enough for someone like Cannady.

Washington is the real wild card here. He has decent size and speed here but he will have to up his game to defend either one of those two guards. It's a tall task for a freshman.

 
penn nation 
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01-01-19 07:07 PM - Post#270774    
    In response to SomeGuy

Didn't Woods guard Stephens last year?

 
1LotteryPick1969 
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1LotteryPick1969
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Reg: 11-21-04
01-01-19 08:47 PM - Post#270780    
    In response to bradley

  • bradley Said:

Crowd will probably be sparse as the game means less in the past plus students do not return until Sunday and the Princeton community is somewhat indifferent.




Ticket sales look pretty good--lower section essentially sold out. Granted there are far fewer seats in the remodeled plan.

 
Albert08 
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01-01-19 09:03 PM - Post#270781    
    In response to 1LotteryPick1969

I have been told by a well-informed friend that the '68-69 team that went 14-0 to win the Ivy title will be honored on Saturday, either before the game or at half-time. If so, it hasn't been marketed well, as I cannot find any mention on the website. I understand most of the players will be back, including Chris Thomforde, John Hummer, Geoff Petrie, et al.

 
PennFan10 
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01-01-19 09:43 PM - Post#270783    
    In response to penn nation

  • penn nation Said:
Didn't Woods guard Stephens last year?



No. Max guarded Stephens in both games. Foreman was on Cannaday. Woods guarded Bell.


 
AntiUngvar 
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01-01-19 10:51 PM - Post#270786    
    In response to PennFan10

  • PennFan10 Said:
  • penn nation Said:
Didn't Woods guard Stephens last year?



No. Max guarded Stephens in both games. Foreman was on Cannaday. Woods guarded Bell.



If Penn had this guy on their bench yesterday, they'd have pulled it out.


 
Tiger69 
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01-01-19 10:55 PM - Post#270787    
    In response to PennFan10

I didn’t have much hope for this game until Az State and Penn’s collapse due to numerous key injuries. It is a shame that these two games are so early when Penn is not at full strength and Princeton hasn’t fully established its rotation.

 
SomeGuy 
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01-01-19 11:35 PM - Post#270789    
    In response to penn nation

Is physicality really the thing with Cannady? You’ve got to be able to chase him around more than anything. Foreman was effective because he was beating him to his spots. And because Cannady was hurt the second game and just a little slower than usual.

 
bradley 
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01-02-19 09:25 AM - Post#270796    
    In response to SomeGuy

Cannady's repertoire has been expanded this year. The solution is no longer just chasing him around the floor as he added moves to the basket and mid-range shots. In addition, he can lull you to sleep for 1/2 second from 23 feet out and make 3 point shots.

The one guy and only one guy who gave him fits was Duke's Barrett, a premier defender, who is also 6'7" tall. Coach K knew that Cannady was the guy that he had to stop and he put Barrett on him. Not only did Barrett chase him around the court with tremendous quickness/willpower but the the biggest equalizer was LONG ARMS and being 6'7". Barrett took away good 3 pt shots from Cannady on that day, 2-10. Otherwise, Devin has found good enough looks against every team although his 3 pt shooting percentage has tailed off from the start of the season.

Probably, the best bet for a team is send your most athletic defender against him with longer arms and insturctions not to foul but simply pray that he does not shoot lights out. On a typical night, Devin will get his shots and points but probably the key is to stop everyone else that-- is why Llewellyn needs to step up and have a strong game for the Tigers. 3 pt shooters like Devin can have great and not so great shooting nights but realistically he is a 40-45% 3 pt shooter and he has gotten better like fine wine.



 
AntiUngvar 
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01-02-19 11:08 AM - Post#270801    
    In response to bradley

  • bradley Said:
Coach K knew that Cannady was the guy that he had to stop


Unfortunately there was nobody that K had to stop that night in Durham. His feint praise of Cannady was totally self serving; and were K even remotely a sportsman, he'd have sat ALL of his starters that evening for good, and very early in the second half!


 
SRP 
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01-02-19 03:01 PM - Post#270823    
    In response to AntiUngvar

The Duke coach was not being insincere and the proposal that he call off the dogs is condescending.

 
AntiUngvar 
Masters Student
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Age: 64
Loc: New York City
Reg: 07-23-18
01-02-19 05:43 PM - Post#270844    
    In response to SRP

I am not looking to change your mind; but I believe it's all the more true in amateur sports; that there's a need to know when the event is over, and Williamson was on the court well past the time the game was over- not to mention that he could have suffered injury, as well.


 
Tiger69 
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Reg: 11-23-04
01-02-19 05:47 PM - Post#270845    
    In response to AntiUngvar

I have to wonder what sort of a curriculum is required of a “one and done”. Is it even possible for him to be declared academically ineligible?

 
AntiUngvar 
Masters Student
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Age: 64
Loc: New York City
Reg: 07-23-18
01-02-19 06:00 PM - Post#270849    
    In response to Tiger69

Only by screwing up terribly in the fall semester. Once a student- athlete successfully navigates through his first semester, all bets are off. By the time it's revealed that he failed all of his spring courses, he'll probably have already signed his first contract with the Knicks! It's really more a case of one SEMESTER and done.


 
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