PennFan10
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01-02-19 11:22 AM - Post#270804
Never too early to get this thread started.
KP has us as a 1 pt dog on the road.
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AntiUngvar
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Re: @Princeton
01-02-19 04:27 PM - Post#270831
In response to PennFan10
Somebody's got to contribute to my man's thread- may as well be me! The question is, which appears to be a more likely three game streak of activity: The University of Pennsylvania losing three consecutive games to Division-1 opponents; or Princeton University losing three straight to Penn?
I go with the latter as being the more likely scenario to occur. This core group of Penn players has known success at Jadwin- winning there fairly easily in 2018; and losing, in overtime, the year before. They've also converted on 80% of FTAs at Jadwin in these two most recent meetings between the two schools. Penn's got to feel a greater urgency about this game, too, with Princeton still perhaps bowing to the applause related to the Arizona State win. Rothschild should play; and there's little downside to at least letting Wang attempt to do so; since Penn's very next game is a full seven days later- at home, versus Princeton. That's just my humble/unsolicited opinion.
Edited by AntiUngvar on 01-02-19 04:31 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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PennFan10
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01-02-19 04:35 PM - Post#270833
In response to AntiUngvar
https://www.thedp.com/article/2019/01/landa u-penn-...
The DP irked about BTB vs Princeton.
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SomeGuy
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Re: @Princeton
01-02-19 04:40 PM - Post#270835
In response to PennFan10
Very scary game to me. Would have been favored by a couple points a week ago, but not anymore. In addition to our own troubles, when you look at the individual matchups Llewellyn makes things look a lot tougher then they would have seemed a month ago. Cannady and Stephens are wonderful players, but with our defenders I think we’d have the options necessary to control them. Llewellyn means We have fewer choices with the defensive matchups.
All that said, I have a lot of faith in our coaching and makeup. I think we’ll be ready and compete, regardless of the status of Max, Mike, and Tyler.
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Jeff2sf
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01-02-19 04:45 PM - Post#270838
In response to SomeGuy
i'd have thought we'd have our players prepared for Monmouth too but obviously that didn't happen. The season has a chance to go off the rails very quickly with these next two games. Need Wang back.
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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01-02-19 05:06 PM - Post#270842
In response to PennFan10
The tournament strikes again, this time leading to the League's best rivalry being played not only in the first weeks of January to open the season, but while students are on break. As an opponent of the tournament, I complained that the regular season was being diminished. I never envisioned that it would be so to this extent.
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Quakers03
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01-02-19 05:53 PM - Post#270846
In response to HARVARDDADGRAD
It has been this way for this game for years and years...The alternative was the last game of the year during spring break which was no better. Obviously they're trying to avoid the 3 games in 5 days situation, and hopefully a new exam schedule fixes this issue next year.
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penn nation
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01-02-19 05:56 PM - Post#270847
In response to HARVARDDADGRAD
For this particular rivalry the peculiarity of Princeton's academic schedule is solely to blame for the unfortunate scheduling.
This will, thankfully, soon become a thing of the past as Princeton is finally adopting a different academic schedule.
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Jeff2sf
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01-02-19 06:08 PM - Post#270854
In response to penn nation
i've supported the tournament for a while now. 1 thing I wasn't worried about but couldn't rule out either was the idea that the regular season would be rendered meaningless.
This has basically proven to be the opposite. I'm terrified of not making the final four such that the only Princeton games where I clearly was more stoked/worried for were the playoff games.
They've messed up a lot with this tournament, but limiting it to four teams has been nothing short of brilliant.
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SRP
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01-02-19 06:52 PM - Post#270859
In response to Jeff2sf
Obviously Princeton's academic schedule is not responsible for the back-to-back setup (or for the two teams playing each other before any other opponents), as the teams never played back-to-back in all the many years of that schedule. The folly is entirely to blame for that.
I know that at least some of the other travel partners always started the season with a back-to-back and I always used to pity them for that. The dramatic, natural rivalry of that last Tuesday of the season was pretty compelling.
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penn nation
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01-02-19 07:10 PM - Post#270860
In response to SRP
Princeton’s peculiar schedule has been the ONLY reason there have been P-P games of recent vintage that have been scheduled during student breaks.
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SomeGuy
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01-02-19 07:19 PM - Post#270862
In response to Jeff2sf
I agree with Jeff on this. The regular season hasn’t been diminished — the historic OOC season suggests this could be a very competitive year. While the travel partner games at the start may be a little weird, it raises the possibility that one of the Ps or Yale/Brown starts out 0-2 and in a big hole compared to one of the other 4 teams competing for 5 spots. While a few weeks ago it looked like there were 3 locks for the tourney, i’m less certain there are any locks now. It isn’t inconceivable for Yale or Penn to get swept and end up in a big hole we didn’t expect.
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AntiUngvar
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01-02-19 07:30 PM - Post#270864
In response to SomeGuy
If you see the next game as "scary", prepare yourself for 15 more scares to follow.
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Old Bear
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@Princeton
01-02-19 10:44 PM - Post#270924
In response to SRP
Not some of the other Ivy travel partners, all of them, and during the winter break for most.
Edited by Old Bear on 01-02-19 10:46 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Jeff2sf
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01-03-19 10:20 AM - Post#270964
In response to AntiUngvar
If you see the next game as "scary", prepare yourself for 15 more scares to follow.
yeah, that's exactly the point.
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AsiaSunset
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01-03-19 11:08 AM - Post#270970
In response to Jeff2sf
A lot of panic here. All the last game and a half taught us is that we are not nearly as good a team without Max and Mike. We were actually ahead of Toledo when Mike went down. I'm not saying we win that game, but we were doing ok with Mike on the floor even though we didn't have Max.
So we know now that without at least one of them on the court we are a different team. The crucial question then is where do either or both of them stand relative to our Saturday showdown with Princeton? Importantly - if one or both aren't ready, will they be back in time for the 2nd game?
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Streamers
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01-03-19 11:25 AM - Post#270973
In response to AsiaSunset
It feels less like panic and more like disappointment that the injuries have significantly depleted what we thought was a pretty deep team. It is also the realization that SD will need to make adjustments if he needs more from Jarrod and Eddie. This coming on the heels of the big wins against Miami and Nova.
This team has proven its resiliency and ability to adapt. I remain optimistic. All 3 of the DL guys will be back soon enough to be factors in league play.
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SRP
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Re: @Princeton
01-03-19 02:57 PM - Post#271002
In response to Old Bear
Thank you for confirming that the Penn posters' obsessive need to denigrate Princeton has again led them astray.
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UPIA1968
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Re: @Princeton
01-03-19 10:12 PM - Post#271045
In response to SRP
The lesson of the last two games is that the talent drops off sharply after the top five.
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penn nation
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Re: @Princeton
01-03-19 10:23 PM - Post#271046
In response to UPIA1968
After 7 is when we get in serious trouble.
AJ, Max, Mike, Jake, Anthony, Devon and Bryce.
After that the dropoff is pretty drastic.
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