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Old Bear 
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01-06-19 09:05 PM - Post#271576    

On a doink! That sucks.

 
SteveChop 
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01-06-19 09:13 PM - Post#271579    
    In response to Old Bear

Not from here. Looked pretty good to me! I had just gotten through saying to my wife that calling time out to "ice" the kicker is a lot of nonsense. I'm a believer now! GO IGGLES!

 
10Q 
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Reg: 11-21-04
01-06-19 09:40 PM - Post#271580    
    In response to SteveChop

I'm so very sick of the iggles.

 
Streamers 
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Streamers
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Reg: 11-21-04
01-06-19 09:55 PM - Post#271582    
    In response to 10Q

I feel badly for the Bear fans, but there is happiness in my home (and my wallet)

 
T.P.F.K.A.D.W. 
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Re: Eagles
01-06-19 09:59 PM - Post#271583    
    In response to Old Bear

  • Old Bear Said:
On a doink! That sucks.


That, my friend, was a double-doink.

I cannot think of a crazier ending to a football game.

 
Ted 
Junior
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Reg: 12-23-12
Re: Eagles
01-06-19 10:46 PM - Post#271584    
    In response to T.P.F.K.A.D.W.

Penn - Harvard 1982?

 
section110 
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Loc: south jersey
Reg: 11-22-04
Re: Eagles
01-06-19 11:43 PM - Post#271586    
    In response to Ted

Cal- Stanford, I believe the same year?

I've seen the replay. The Harvard guy unquestionably ran into our kicker.


 
10Q 
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01-07-19 08:44 AM - Post#271596    
    In response to section110

I don't get the rule on that play where the Bear completion was made, but because no one picked up the ball after the whistle blew, it was ruled an incompletion. That is a very dumb rule. Once the whistle blew, the play is over. He caught the ball. It's a catch. Might have cost the Bears the game.

 
TigerFan 
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01-07-19 09:29 AM - Post#271600    
    In response to 10Q

Great couple of weekends for this Tiger Hoops & Eagles fan. Go birds!

 
Quakers03 
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Eagles
01-07-19 11:29 AM - Post#271610    
    In response to SteveChop

  • SteveChop Said:
Not from here. Looked pretty good to me! I had just gotten through saying to my wife that calling time out to "ice" the kicker is a lot of nonsense. I'm a believer now! GO IGGLES!


Doug fully admitted that he waited until the last second in the hopes that Parkey would kick a practice kick and make it. It seems the second one after a make is ALWAYS harder. Nicely done, coach.

  • 10Q Said:
I don't get the rule on that play where the Bear completion was made, but because no one picked up the ball after the whistle blew, it was ruled an incompletion. That is a very dumb rule. Once the whistle blew, the play is over. He caught the ball. It's a catch. Might have cost the Bears the game.



If the ref isn't standing over the ball saying incomplete, an Eagles player would have recovered. The Bears didn't get screwed at all. Not even a little bit.

 
Jeff2sf 
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Reg: 11-22-04
01-07-19 11:40 AM - Post#271614    
    In response to Quakers03

First I should say the rule makes perfect sense to me. Too often the NFL is criticized for technicalities but this seemed very obvious, there was no chance to recover the ball so why would we be penalized?

Having said that, I did not remember 84 being so close. I think it's about 50/50, or maybe 60/40 for the Eagles, that we recover that ball since sullivan was going the complete opposite direction, leblanc was showboating a bit and C Graham was a yard or two behind 84. I'm not looking to get into a huge debate over that and am willing to be convinced, but it's funny because I completely blocked that out last night and was sure there were only Eagles in the vicinity. https://www.sbnation.com/2019/1/6/18171179/chi cago...

 
Streamers 
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Streamers
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Eagles
01-07-19 11:40 AM - Post#271615    
    In response to 10Q

  • 10Q Said:
I don't get the rule on that play where the Bear completion was made, but because no one picked up the ball after the whistle blew, it was ruled an incompletion. That is a very dumb rule. Once the whistle blew, the play is over. He caught the ball. It's a catch. Might have cost the Bears the game.


According to the commentators, there is an obscure rule in the book that says a catch that is fumbled and not recovered is considered incomplete. I still think NY might have made that one up on the fly, but it was the correct outcome, IMHO, given that the platy was whistled and signaled incomplete. However, Dungy said he always told his players to cover the call in that situation and he is absolutely right.



 
Quakers03 
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01-07-19 11:43 AM - Post#271617    
    In response to Streamers

Considering they cost the Eagles the division a few weeks ago at Dallas, at least this was a legitimate rule.

 
10Q 
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Re: Eagles
01-07-19 12:39 PM - Post#271634    
    In response to Streamers

Yes, I get that this is the rule. But it's a nonsensical rule and it may have cost the Bears the game.

 
10Q 
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Re: Eagles
01-07-19 12:39 PM - Post#271635    
    In response to Quakers03

IT WAS A COMPLETE PASS
PERIOD

You can't uncomplete a pass.

 
Jeff2sf 
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Reg: 11-22-04
01-07-19 12:40 PM - Post#271636    
    In response to 10Q

but why do you see it as nonsensical? you're just supposed to erase a clear fumble? Eagles had a better than average shot at the ball.

 
10Q 
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01-07-19 12:43 PM - Post#271638    
    In response to Jeff2sf

No one recovered it. So that's a non-factor.
What's undeniable is that there was a catch. You can't uncomplete a pass.

It's a clear flaw in the rule and a flaw in the entire replay system. A whistle always wreaks havoc with a replay system.

 
palestra38 
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01-07-19 12:46 PM - Post#271642    
    In response to 10Q

What do you mean it is not arguable? That ball was not a catch in my opinion. Defender's hand in there fighting all the way to the ground and broke it loose. That's the mistake as I see it. And when the whistle is blown, how do you expect someone to go for the loose ball? It ended up being the right call, but for the wrong reason. And no Bears fan (or someone rooting for the Bears) has a legitimate gripe there--they got 3 points. Might have come away with zero.

 
10Q 
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Eagles
01-07-19 12:47 PM - Post#271643    
    In response to palestra38

You can certainly argue that it wasn't a catch. But assuming a catch, the ruling was dumb.

And yes, once the whistle is blown, the play is dead and you go back to it being a catch.

 
palestra38 
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Re: Eagles
01-07-19 12:49 PM - Post#271645    
    In response to 10Q

Why would you reverse the call if the play was ruled incomplete and the whistle blown? It is precisely for that reason that the rule is that if no one tries to pick it up, it is not reversible.

 
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