Bison137
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01-11-19 02:52 PM - Post#272130
Bison Game Article:
https://bucknellbison.com/news/2019/1/11/mens-b ask...
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Bison137
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01-11-19 03:04 PM - Post#272132
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American has made a major turnaround from last year and must be regarded as a legitimate contender. Two factors: (a) their good 6-10 center, Mark Gasperini, is back after missing all of last season with a concussion: and (b) they returned all of their rotation players from last year, which includes All-PL PG Sa'eed Nelson.
One other note. Don't know how many heard the Birdsong interview with John Meeks after last game, but it is worth noting that his injured foot/ankle is still not fully healed. He has to sit parts of each practice and is very limited in how much running he can do. That in turn has affected his conditioning, especially after having been unable to run at all for so many weeks.
Despite that, he has been playing well. On twos, he has hit 15-24 (.625) and is 5-11 (.455) on threes. On the boards, he is neck-and-neck with Newman for the second highest rebounding rate on the team.
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Bison137
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01-11-19 06:24 PM - Post#272139
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Interesting take on the Bison from Doug Birdsong, answering questions on the AU blog:
http://www.auhoopspodcast.com/posts/2019/1/11/prev...
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MrPhillie
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01-12-19 01:34 PM - Post#272184
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Another double digit deficit. Seems like American’s offensive sets are more crisp and clean and less frenzied than Bucknell’s.
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01-12-19 01:55 PM - Post#272187
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Predictable bad start. Down 2 at half, so all is not lost. We contrimue to have rebounding issues. Thankfully American has missed a lot of shots.
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01-12-19 01:57 PM - Post#272188
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Another ugly first half. 1-10 from 3 and 7-12 from the line. Silver lining and what I think has kept us in the game is our rebounding. In past games we have sprinted down the court on a miss looking for a leak out whereas today we are making sure we secure those defensive rebounds to prevent 2nd chance opportunities. Good minutes from Bruce and Newman
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01-12-19 02:26 PM - Post#272191
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Is this crew working the Lewisburg HS game tonight?
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bison63
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01-12-19 02:34 PM - Post#272192
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Worst game i’ve Seen from Sestina all year.
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bison63
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01-12-19 02:46 PM - Post#272194
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Just as I say that he hits a 3
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01-12-19 02:50 PM - Post#272195
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Redeemed himself
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bison63
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01-12-19 02:56 PM - Post#272196
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I fret Soto’s just sealed our doom
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01-12-19 02:56 PM - Post#272198
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Phew
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01-12-19 02:58 PM - Post#272201
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Well a win’s a win but that was ugly. Very little flow the whole game. Glad we got the win certainly. American certainly is gonna be a tougher test in the PL compared to other years
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01-12-19 02:58 PM - Post#272202
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“Escape†is the right word. A win is a win, but .....
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01-12-19 03:02 PM - Post#272203
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So ugly but I'll take it. Sestina's 3 holds up.
And screw Stadium...PL might as well go to ESPN+ if you have to pay for it via apps.
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01-12-19 03:10 PM - Post#272205
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Ugly win better than ugly loss. We hustled and scrapped and sometimes were better on the boards, but overall that is still a problem area. Our offensive flow is hard to watch at times. And we missed layups down the stretch, had a poor possession, missed two 1-1’s...and still won.
Officiating seemed worse than usual. I’m not sure I ever saw Davis as mad at officials than he was a few times today, slamming the scorers table and floor yelling “That was so bad!!â€
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01-12-19 04:14 PM - Post#272252
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As the ‘ol Gunner would say: “We had ‘‘em all the wayâ€!
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01-12-19 05:01 PM - Post#272311
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The best thing you can say about this game is it was a great defensive effort. Bruce Moore had a nice game despite being hit (again) with some bogus foul calls.
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01-12-19 09:20 PM - Post#272366
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Hands down the ugliest game I’ve seen in a long time. Neither team could shoot and it was a turnover fest.
The ugliest point was when we let AU get a rebound off a missed free throw when AU only had one guy down low. 4 guys just stood around waiting for the rebound to come to them while AU went and got it.
Bucknell is tied for first, but playing like this is not sustainable.
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01-12-19 09:42 PM - Post#272380
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Is this crew working the Lewisburg HS game tonight?
If this crew turned up at Lewisburg HS, the Lewisburg coach would undoubtedly be unhappy. Imo it was one of the worst crews to ever walk into Sojka. Inconsistent, numerous bad calls, and no common sense. Consider the team:
Paul Faia - used to ref A10 games but they no longer use him. Now only PL, NEC, and occasionally CAA. The number of games he refs has dropped, as has his Pomeroy ranking. Despite all of this, he was by far the top guy on the crew.
Dawud Mills - today was his second D1 assignment of the season, with the other at Navy eight weeks ago. Prior to that game, he had NEVER reffed a game between two D1 teams. Normally refs D2/D3 games.
George McDaniels - today was his second D1 assignment of the year, with the other having been at American nine weeks ago. He has been reffing for a number of years, but has never received more than four D1 assignments in one year. Not sure what else he has been doing, but he may have been an NBA replacement ref during the 2009 strike.
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01-12-19 11:08 PM - Post#272405
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A quick shoutout to Bruce Moore, who had 15 rebounds today. His previous career high was seven. Bruce is capable of many games with double digit rebounds if he puts in the kind of effort he did today.
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01-13-19 02:15 AM - Post#272415
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What factors does Pomeroy use in his ref rankings?
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Bison137
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01-13-19 03:19 AM - Post#272417
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What factors does Pomeroy use in his ref rankings?
Only two. It's hard to get stats to measure refs, so he assumes the assignors/leagues who choose the refs know what they're doing. Thus he looks at the number of assignments each ref gets, along with the quality of games that each ref gets. Not a perfect system, but it seems to tie in fairly well with subjective views of refs' ability.
When it comes to PL games, it is clear that the CBS Sports Network games, along with games matching the top teams and especially the semis and finals of the tournament, are assigned the refs who are viewed as the better ones. That is likely true in all leagues, so his method likely gives reasonable results. You won't see clowns like we saw yesterday ever doing a CBSSN game or a tournament game or a Bucknell-Lehigh game. But we do get them for the occasional random league game.
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01-13-19 03:19 AM - Post#272418
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What factors does Pomeroy use in his ref rankings?
Only two. It's hard to get stats to measure refs, so he assumes the assignors/leagues who choose the refs know what they're doing. Thus he looks at the number of assignments each ref gets, along with the quality of games that each ref gets. Not a perfect system, but it seems to tie in fairly well with subjective views of refs' ability.
When it comes to PL games, it is clear that the CBS Sports Network games, along with games matching the top teams and especially the semis and finals of the tournament, are assigned the refs who are viewed as the better ones. That is likely true in all leagues, so his method likely gives reasonable results. You won't see clowns like we saw yesterday ever doing a CBSSN game or a tournament game or a Bucknell-Lehigh game. But we do get them for the occasional random league game.
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01-13-19 09:22 AM - Post#272433
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This is the lowest scoring win in Nathan Davis's tenure at Bucknell and ties for the lowest scoring game period. The next lowest win was a 59-55 win at Navy on 12/30/16. The other 55 point game was a 69-55 loss at (where else) American in Feb 2016.
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01-13-19 10:17 AM - Post#272438
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going back to the issue of slow starts I'll go back to the following speculations:
1. we struggle in half court action vis-a-vis when we can play with pace over 90 feet
2. our first half performances are consistently affected when we go to the bench (the preponderance of shots from 2 out of 3 of our first in subs are 3 pointers and are being logged at a 35% and 28% pace)
3. difficult for Newman to create his own offense puts additional pressure on scoring in the set offense
4. defense when we sub out first platoon drops precipitously
5. if you net out KM's performance against Bonnies's his 3 pt % drops to 28% (thank God he scores in so many ways and is so effective)
6. most opponents concentrate on taking away KM first even before Nate
7. one thing that's not a speculation is we don't seem to shoot better at Sojka vs OTR...this would appear a significant outlier to me...can we expect reversion to the mean? (16 games seems like a higher enough population density)
137 - can you confirm whether my IMPRESSION in #7 is valid? TX
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01-13-19 01:13 PM - Post#272459
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7. one thing that's not a speculation is we don't seem to shoot better at Sojka vs OTR...this would appear a significant outlier to me...can we expect reversion to the mean? (16 games seems like a higher enough population density)
137 - can you confirm whether my IMPRESSION in #7 is valid? TX
Although I don't think the home sample size is highly credible yet, you are correct that they have shot better on the road:
HOME: 89-181 on two (49.2%), 51-149 on threes (34.2%)
ROAD: 171-317 on twos (53.9%), 92-251 (36.6%) on threes.
Note that Bucknell's top overall shooter (Sestina) missed two of the six home games. As I mentioned, the home sample size is pretty small. The Bison three-point shooting was at 35.4% before yesterday. Dropped significantly with one bad game.
I expect that the Sojka shooting will eventually improve, although it may not start tomorrow as Floyd is the league's top defender by a wide margin. Having said that, I think it would help if the Bison made more of an effort to get Sestina the ball in spots where he has the option to take a 15-footer or go to the rim.
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01-13-19 07:18 PM - Post#272486
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137 Tx...I’m actually surprised that we are shooting as high as we are at Sojka. My impression after FU, NE, Canisius, Monmouth, CU & AU was that we were probably lower. I look at the team stats after the game but rarely if ever go back and review. Only looked at individual stats this morning. Saw HC beat Canisius and they gave them a real different look defensively in the 1-3–1. Green really overplays at the top to funnel you to one side. Still can’t believe they scored 59 pts against HC at half. That’s normally Carmody’s full game total. 4-1 in PL if we hold up tomorrow is a good result going into Stabler! One game at a time
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01-13-19 07:20 PM - Post#272487
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Typo: Against Lehigh at half...and they lost
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Bison137
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01-13-19 08:35 PM - Post#272490
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137 Tx...I’m actually surprised that we are shooting as high as we are at Sojka. My impression after FU, NE, Canisius, Monmouth, CU & AU was that we were probably lower. I look at the team stats after the game but rarely if ever go back and review. Only looked at individual stats this morning. Saw HC beat Canisius and they gave them a real different look defensively in the 1-3–1. Green really overplays at the top to funnel you to one side. Still can’t believe they scored 59 pts against HC at half. That’s normally Carmody’s full game total. 4-1 in PL if we hold up tomorrow is a good result going into Stabler! One game at a time
HC hasn't played as much 1-3-1 this year, but that was a main defense for them in previous years. In fact they played it almost the whole game vs the Bison in the tournament game a few years ago. Also played it in the regular season games.
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01-14-19 09:48 AM - Post#272520
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They played it in the second half (at least late in the game) against Canisius and other than one guy who killed them on weak side rebounds the rest of the team was relatively perplexed. I think we’ll see some tonight because it really slows down the place of play. HC is improved however and he may be more confidant than in prior years that he can match us MTM. We’ll see
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American Game 01-14-19 07:54 PM - Post#272605
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Apparently communication is not very good on campus...I count maybe 30 students here 7 minutes before game time.
And minutes later, more students arrived.
Edited by MrPhillie on 01-14-19 08:01 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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