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Username Post: Canady        (Topic#22487)
Tiger69 
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01-19-19 01:46 PM - Post#272981    
    In response to rbg

Let us hope that this doesn’t end up requiring lawyers. The best that we can hope for is that cool heads prevail, there is no major disagreement about what happened and that all parties accept responsibility for their actions.

 
PennFan10 
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01-19-19 02:00 PM - Post#272989    
    In response to bradley

I hope it’s all a giant misunderstanding and Devin is exonerated. Sadly his basketball career is in serious jeopardy now

 
AntiUngvar 
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Re: Canady
01-19-19 02:21 PM - Post#272994    
    In response to sparman

  • sparman Said:

I find it ironic that you speak about what "you "actually witnessed" when you did not, in fact, actually witness this event, and conclude - to use current vernacular, without evidence - that he intended to miss. It would be nice if your prediction is right, but more rational to wait for more evidence to be brought out.


I'm sorry- did not express that appropriately. Just hopeful the boy didn't actually throw a punch.


 
1LotteryPick1969 
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01-19-19 04:23 PM - Post#273029    
    In response to bradley

  • bradley Said:
It sounds like there are a number of witnesses




Won't there be a video?

I need some help from the lawyers on this board. Doesn't this need to go through the police/courts before the university takes action? (Unlike the Montague case, which was entirely handled within the university, had no witnesses, and no police report.)

 
rbg 
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01-19-19 07:02 PM - Post#273090    
    In response to 1LotteryPick1969

I'm not a lawyer, but here is some information from the university that probably applies to this situation.

https://rrr.princeton.edu/university

Princeton Rights, Rules & Responsibility 2018-2019

1.2 University-wide Conduct Regulations
1.2.5 Personal Safety
Actions that threaten or endanger in any way the personal safety or security of others will be regarded as serious offenses.
The following offenses will be regarded as extremely serious:
5. Any physical assault committed in the course of any University function or activity, or on the premises of the University or in the local vicinity, especially when unprovoked and/or when injury results.
6. Any other act that seriously endangers human life, or threatens serious physical or psychological injury.

1.4 The University, the Law, and Property Rights
Members of the University community are expected to act with respect for the safety, personal rights, and property of individuals and groups both within and outside the University, and in accordance with local, state, and federal laws. Some laws, such as those governing equal opportunity and nondiscrimination, underlie fundamental University policy and have been discussed previously in this document. Principles and laws of particular importance to our academic community are discussed below.
1.4.2 Off-Campus Misconduct
While the University does not impose disciplinary penalties for misconduct off campus beyond the local vicinity or unassociated with a University-sponsored program or activity there are exceptions (for example, where such misconduct may pose a safety risk on campus or may have a continuing adverse effect or create a hostile environment on campus). Judgments about these matters will depend on facts of an individual case.
1.4.3 Violations of Local, State, or Federal Law
Violations of federal, state, or local laws by members of the University community may put the individual in personal legal jeopardy. Also, they may trigger University disciplinary action regardless of where such violations occur, particularly if they are of a serious nature and clearly violate University standards of conduct.
The University will not seek special immunity for its members if they come in conflict with the laws of the civic community, national, state, or local. However, the University's Office of General Counsel will, if asked, offer the names of attorneys in the event a community member desires to engage counsel upon being charged with a violation of the law. (Students should also consult section 2.2.13 "Legal Assistance.")
1.4.4 University Discipline and the Courts
When members of the University are faced with court proceedings for offenses committed either on or off the campus, and when University disciplinary proceedings are also appropriate, the University will normally make its own determinations promptly, whether or not court action has been brought to a conclusion.

1.6 Health and Safety Policies
1.6.1 Drugs
State Laws
New Jersey state law classifies heroin, cocaine, amphetamines, LSD, marijuana, and hashish, among other substances, as "controlled dangerous substances." The possession, use, sale, or manufacture of such substances may be subject to mandatory penalties. References to current laws may be consulted at the Office of Public Safety. (New Jersey law does provide some immunity for those who seek immediate medical assistance on behalf of themselves or others in drug overdose situations.)

University Policy Concerning Use of Illegal Drugs
The University prohibits the unlawful manufacture, dispensation, possession, use, or distribution of a controlled substance of any kind in any amount on University property, or while in the conduct of University business away from the campus. This prohibition includes the manufacture, dispensation, possession, use, or distribution of prescription drugs without a prescription. Penalties for these acts will be administered by the appropriate University administrator or committee, and in accordance with rules and procedures administered by them (for the faculty and other academic staffs, the Office of the Dean of the Faculty; for graduate students, the Office of the Dean of the Graduate School; for undergraduates, the Office of the Dean of Undergraduate Students; and for administrators and staff, the Office of the Vice President for Human Resources). Penalties range from warning to permanent separation from the University depending on the seriousness of the infraction and the degree to which violation of the policy adversely affects the well-being of the community or the fulfillment of the University's educational mission.

Violations of local ordinances or of state or federal laws regarding controlled dangerous substances by members of the University community may entail criminal charges and University disciplinary actions regardless of where such violations occur, if they are of a serious nature. The manufacture, sale, or distribution of illegal drugs, any involvement in illegal drug use or traffic with minors, and possession or use of the more dangerous or highly addictive drugs, are all considered serious offenses and will be handled accordingly. Depending on the particular circumstances, continued association with the University by violators of this policy may be made contingent upon satisfactory participation in a drug abuse assistance or rehabilitation program.

It is also University policy, in accordance with the Drug-Free Workplace Act of 1988, that all employees, as a condition of employment on projects supported out of federal funds, abide by this University policy regarding controlled dangerous substances and notify the University within five (5) days of any criminal drug statute conviction for a violation occurring at the workplace.

All members of the University community should be aware that New Jersey State law prohibits the illegal possession, use, sale, or manufacture of controlled substances and drug paraphernalia and that violators may be subject to criminal charges as well as mandatory penalties in addition to University disciplinary action. Federal law also provides for loss of certain federal benefits (including student loans and research grants) for conviction under any criminal drug statute. More information about New Jersey and federal drug laws may be obtained at the Department of Public Safety, or the Office of the General Counsel.


 
dperry 
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01-19-19 08:53 PM - Post#273116    
    In response to bradley

  • bradley Said:


Not a great advertisement for our "genius" Governor pushing for legalization of marijuana so that he can raise some tax revenue.





Murphy's intelligence or lack thereof aside, a. the pot use is alleged at the moment, and until we hear about a positive toxicology report and the filing of intoxication charges, it is premature to assume that was what caused it; b. the correlation between marijuana use and violence is mixed, at best, and certainly less strong than it is with alcohol.
David Perry
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To thee, Pennsylvania/All rivals must bow!!!"


 
Old Bear 
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01-19-19 09:01 PM - Post#273120    
    In response to dperry

THis is very sad.

 
bradley 
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01-19-19 09:30 PM - Post#273126    
    In response to 1LotteryPick1969

You would think that there is a video that would be an important piece of evidence.

There are several tracks that can be followed by the Administration as to making a decision based on reviewing Devin's actions against the rules cited by RBG or waiting the completion of the Mercer County investigation and prosecutor's decision, similar to the NFL decision making process. I suspect that Princeton will make a decision in the not too distant future based on the first track but only a guess. I believe that they will review his prior behavior as a student over the past 3 1/2 years as well as consider any mitigating factors that evening.

If he has been a good citizen, it is possible that they might suspend him for 3 to 5 games. I would suspect that they would want to get Devin's buy in and agreement regarding the disciplinary actions prior to reinstating him to avoid potential litigation down the road. If his actions were so over the edge that evening or he has a prior bad track record at Princeton, his college career may well be over. I suspect that he has been a good citizen.

In any event, Mitch and the Tigers will have to regroup. I suspect that their suspected demise may or may not be an accurate prediction but time will tell.

 
Chip Bayers 
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01-19-19 09:48 PM - Post#273128    
    In response to dperry

  • dperry Said:
  • bradley Said:


Not a great advertisement for our "genius" Governor pushing for legalization of marijuana so that he can raise some tax revenue.





Murphy's intelligence or lack thereof aside, a. the pot use is alleged at the moment, and until we hear about a positive toxicology report and the filing of intoxication charges, it is premature to assume that was what caused it; b. the correlation between marijuana use and violence is mixed, at best, and certainly less strong than it is with alcohol.




Yeah, having worked an in-dorm convenience store on late night shifts in my undergrad years, it was exceedingly rare—bordering on non-existent—to have the stoners on an early AM Dorito run get physical with anyone. Obtaining the crunchy carbs was their sole focus.


 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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01-19-19 10:09 PM - Post#273134    
    In response to Chip Bayers

I hope that every team is healthy and that all players stay eligible. I love the competition.

However, if a student takes a swing at a campus security officer there is no way a legitimate school like Princeton will turn the other cheek. Can’t see it.

 
rbg 
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01-20-19 01:27 AM - Post#273144    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

Some more info from Princeton's Rights, Rules and Responsibilities

2.2 Regulations Concerning Specific Aspects of Student Life
2.2.5 Disorderly Conduct
Students are expected to conduct themselves in accordance with the law and commonly accepted standards of behavior. Public nudity, public urination, excessive noise, combative or disruptive conduct with local medical, law enforcement, or fire personnel, misuse of paint, shaving cream, "silly string" and the like which necessitates clean-up by University staff members, or other behaviors that clearly disrupt and disrespect the working and/or living conditions of others, may be met with disciplinary sanctions.
2.2.10 Drug Policy
Princeton University does not condone the possession, use, manufacture, or distribution of illegal substances or drug paraphernalia of any kind in any amount, or the possession, use, manufacture, or distribution of prescription drugs without a prescription. Students in violation of this policy may be jeopardizing their own well-being as well as the well-being of the University community.

In general, a student who violates this policy for the first time will be placed on probation. Discipline for a second offense will be more serious and may involve lengthening the probation, campus service, and/or revocation of on-campus residential privileges. Students should expect to be suspended for a third offense. Students involved in such cases, when their conduct is in violation of the law, cannot be guaranteed immunity either from arrest or prosecution.
2.2.13 Legal Assistance
The Office of the Dean of Undergraduate Students and the Office of the Dean of the Graduate School are authorized to provide specific kinds of aid to students who have been charged with violations of the law or who are actually under arrest. In such cases, University officials may:

1. Provide the student with the names of a few local attorneys; the student may or may not choose to consult with persons from this list.

2. Help to arrange bail, if the student or parents cannot provide immediate funds for bail. In special circumstances, the University may make a loan for the amount of bail (or of a bondsman's fee) if the student and/or parent so authorizes.

In all instances, the cost of bail, as well as the cost of legal counsel, are the full responsibility of the student and the student's family. The University's actions in such cases are undertaken in an effort to ensure the protection of the student's rights and safety, and are not to be construed as efforts to afford the student special treatment in respect to the law.

2.5 University Discipline
2.5.1 Jurisdiction
The Faculty-Student Committee on Discipline, comprising students, faculty members, and administrators, is responsible for the administration of the stated rules and regulations governing undergraduate student conduct, for assessing reported violations, and, when necessary, for assigning appropriate penalties.

Cases Involving Undergraduates
All alleged academic violations involving undergraduates that do not implicate the honor system (section 2.3) fall under the jurisdiction of the Faculty-Student Committee on Discipline. The Faculty-Student Committee on Discipline also adjudicates any other potentially serious alleged infraction (except allegations of sex discrimination or sexual misconduct; see section 1.3) involving undergraduate students for which the penalty might interrupt the student's academic career. The committee also considers cases for which no clear precedent exists. Where an undergraduate student is alleged to have committed a behavioral infraction for which precedents are available and for which the penalty will not interrupt the student's academic career, the Faculty-Student Committee on Discipline delegates jurisdiction to the Office of the Dean of Undergraduate Students. (See section 2.5.3 regarding the resolution of infractions that do not result in separation.)

2.5.2 The Faculty-Student Committee on Discipline
Membership
The committee consists of the following voting members: six members of the faculty (no more than four of whom may be present during any hearing); a dean from the Office of the Dean of the College; and eight undergraduate students (no more than five of whom may be present during any hearing). The dean of undergraduate students serves as chair and votes only in the event of a tie as set forth below, and an associate or assistant dean of undergraduate students serves as secretary without vote. A quorum consists of at least three student members and at least two faculty members. The representative from the Office of the Dean of the College shall have the duties and powers of the dean of undergraduate students in the dean's absence.

Investigation of Alleged Infractions
An assistant or associate dean will normally investigate alleged infractions under the jurisdiction of the Faculty-Student Committee on Discipline. Other representatives of the Office of the Dean of Undergraduate Students (including investigators retained for this purpose) may assist in the investigation of such matters.

Following the investigation, the student may obtain from the committee's secretary all documents pertaining to reports of the alleged misconduct and the names of the members of the committee. The student has the option of submitting any additional written materials that may assist the committee in reaching a decision.

Complaints of discrimination or harassment, except for complaints of sex discrimination or sexual misconduct, where the alleged behaviors are those of a student are normally investigated and resolved through the student disciplinary process, administered by the Office of the Dean of Undergraduate Students as described in this section. (Information relating to the University's Non-Discrimination/Anti-H arassment Policy and Complaint Procedures, including available resources and how to file a complaint under the policy, can be found at https://inclusive.princeton.edu/addressing-concern... A report or a written complaint against a student should be filed with the associate or assistant dean responsible for disciplinary matters in the Office of the Dean of Undergraduate Students.

All disciplinary cases involving allegations of sexual misconduct, including complaints of discrimination or harassment based on sex or gender, are investigated and adjudicated in accordance with the procedures outlined in section 1.3.

Notice and Convening of Hearings
Matters shall be presented to the committee with all reasonable promptness. In all cases referred to the Committee on Discipline, the student involved will be informed in writing of the charge(s) and of the specific day and time when the student is to appear before the committee. Where a matter is first presented to the Office of the Dean of Undergraduate Students within one week of the end of an academic term, it may be held for consideration in the following term.

In certain circumstances, an undergraduate student whose case falls under the jurisdiction of the Faculty-Student Committee on Discipline may request that the dean of undergraduate students adjudicate the matter, waiving the right to a hearing by the committee. If the dean agrees to hear the case, the student retains the right to appeal the decision except on procedural grounds. There are no procedural appeals in such cases.

Enrollment and Residence Status
Normally, pending action on the charges by the committee or pending an appeal, the student will be permitted to remain in residence on campus, attend classes, and make use of some or all University facilities, except for circumstances relating to the physical or emotional safety or well-being of a member (or members) of the University community, or the ability of the University to carry out its essential functions.

The student should understand that if the committee's decision proves adverse, or if an appeal proves unsuccessful, the decision of the committee will normally be considered effective as of the date of the original decision. In cases adjudicated prior to the last day of classes, if the final decision is a separation from the University (i.e., suspension, suspension with conditions, or expulsion), the student will normally not earn credit for the semester in which the infraction occurred. If the case is adjudicated during reading or exam period or if the student has successfully completed course requirements while awaiting the final disposition of the matter, obtaining credit for the semester will be at the discretion of the committee.

Pending a hearing or the student's decision about whether to appeal a separation from the University or the withholding of the degree, and/or while an appeal is in process, an administrative hold will be placed on the student's University transcript. Should the student decide not to appeal a separation or the withholding of the degree, or should an appeal not result in an alteration of the committee's decision to dismiss the student or withhold the degree, the registrar will record the fact of the penalty on the student's transcript.

Conduct of Hearings
The student may be accompanied at the committee hearing by an adviser, who must be a current member of the resident University community, and who may participate in the same manner as the student in the hearing.

At the hearing, any person with information about the matter before the committee may be requested to appear by the student, the dean of undergraduate students, or the committee, subject to reasonable limits agreed on by the committee. The student has an opportunity to explain the circumstances from a personal point of view and may also question individuals who have provided information and may in turn be questioned by the committee members.

The student may make a closing statement and is then excused while the committee deliberates in closed session.

There may be some occasions in which, because of external legal proceedings, the student believes that there are compelling reasons for refusing to speak or to answer questions. In the event that (1) legal proceedings—including but not limited to arrest, summons, and indictment—have been instituted or are anticipated against a student in state or federal courts as a result of alleged involvement in the matters that the committee is considering and (2) the alleged misconduct is more serious than a disorderly person offense, the student will be granted permission not to speak or to answer questions without prejudicing the committee's decision. In the case of other external proceedings, the dean will consider the student's reasons for declining to speak, and if these reasons are deemed legitimate, will excuse the student from giving information without prejudice to the disposition of the case. In instances as set forth above, when a student has chosen not to speak and when in the dean's judgment the committee does not have enough information to come to a conclusion without the student's testimony, at the dean's discretion the hearing may be postponed until more complete information is available. In such instances, when the dean believes that circumstances are present that seriously affect the health or well-being of any person, or where physical safety is seriously threatened, or where the ability of the University to carry out its essential operations is seriously threatened or impaired, the dean normally will bar the student from campus, pending disposition of the legal proceedings and recommencement of the hearing. This decision will be subject to review in accordance with section 1.1.8, and without prejudice to the committee's eventual consideration of the charges. If a hearing proceeds before external legal matters are resolved, the chair of the committee must explain to the student the risks either of speaking freely or of not speaking at all. Under no circumstances will a student whose disciplinary matter is pending be permitted to receive a degree.

Deliberations and Findings
In order to determine that a student has violated a University rule, a majority of the voting committee members present must conclude that the evidence presented constitutes a clear and persuasive case in support of the charges against the student. If the student is found responsible for one or more of the violations charged, the committee will consult applicable rules and precedents to determine the proper penalty. If the student is found to have misled the committee during the hearing, the committee may take that fact into account in reaching a conclusion and assigning a penalty.

If the voting members are evenly divided on a particular case, the case must be reconsidered at the next meeting of the committee. If at the second meeting at which the case is considered the regular voting members are still evenly divided, the dean of undergraduate students votes to break the tie.

The chair or the secretary of the committee informs the student promptly of the decision. If a penalty is imposed, special effort is made in this discussion to ensure that the student fully understands why the penalty was imposed and its nature and consequences. The student has the right to receive a summary report of the proceedings upon request.

Appeals in Behavioral Cases
If a student is found by the Committee on Discipline to have violated University policy, the student found responsible (sometimes referred to as the "respondent") has the right to appeal the decision.

The appellate body has the following five members: the dean of the college, the dean of the Graduate School, the vice president for campus life, the chair of the Judicial Committee of the Council of the Princeton University Community, and another faculty member appointed by the president. The members will be impartial and unbiased. One member will be appointed by the president to serve as its chair.

Each appeal will be heard by three members of the appellate body (i.e., appeal panel). The chair will assign the appeal panel for each case. All decisions shall be made by a majority of the appeal panel.

Grounds for appeal are:

The procedures have not been fair and reasonable. The period of time under review starts when a student is formally charged with a violation and ends when the committee issues a final decision. Neither the choice of venue nor the nature of the investigation is grounds for appeal.
There exists substantial relevant information that was not presented, and reasonably could not have been presented to the committee.
The imposed penalty does not fall within the range of penalties imposed for similar misconduct.
The purpose of an appeal is not to initiate a review of substantive issues of fact or a new determination of whether a violation of University rules has occurred. The appeal panel may decide to uphold the original decision of the committee; to reduce the imposed penalty; or to return the case to the original hearing body for additional proceedings, a rehearing or other action. If a student requests a review of a penalty, it cannot be increased on appeal.

The deadline for filing an appeal in a behavioral case is one week from the date of decision by the Faculty-Student Committee on Discipline.
2.5.3 Adjudication of Infractions That Do Not Result in Separation (Undergraduate)
General Procedures
Normally, if a student is alleged to have committed an infraction, other than sex discrimination or sexual misconduct, for which precedents are available and for which the penalty will not interrupt the student's academic career, the matter will be resolved by the Residential College Disciplinary Board (RCDB), comprising associate and assistant deans of undergraduate students responsible for discipline and the six directors of student life. General procedures are as follows:

The student will first be asked to meet with the appropriate director of student life. All complaints will be investigated promptly. The student may read all statements, reports, or other information relevant to the allegation. The facts of the case will be discussed and the student given ample opportunity to present the student's own account of the incident in question, including a written account, witnesses, or other relevant information, or to request clarification of any relevant information submitted by other parties. The student will be notified of the specific violation the student is alleged to have committed prior to the conclusion of the investigation.

The director of student life will then bring the case, with a recommendation regarding the student's responsibility for the alleged infraction, to the RCDB. The RCDB will determine the appropriate action, up to and including disciplinary probation (including housing and/or campus service sanctions or other restrictions on access to space, resources, or activities).

Other representatives of the Office of the Dean of Undergraduate Students (including investigators retained for this purpose) may assist in the investigation and/or resolution of minor infractions.

Appeals
A student has the right to appeal to the dean of undergraduate students any disciplinary decision of the Residential College Disciplinary Board. The appeal should be submitted in writing. The purpose of the appeal is to seek a review of a decision or penalty on the grounds that (1) there exists substantial relevant information that was not presented, and reasonably could not have been presented, to the dean or the RCDB; (2) the imposed penalty does not fall within the range of penalties imposed for similar misconduct; or (3) a procedural irregularity occurred in the adjudication of the incident in question. The purpose of such an appeal is not to initiate a review of substantive issues of fact, or a new determination of whether a violation of rules has occurred. The deadline for filing such an appeal is one week from the date the student was informed in writing of the penalty. The decision of the dean of undergraduate students shall be final.

2.5.4 Records of Proceedings (Undergraduate)
Confidential records of all disciplinary proceedings involving undergraduate students are maintained by the Office of the Dean of Undergraduate Students. The use of these documents is restricted according to the rules and procedures concerning the confidential nature of student records.

Disciplinary procedures normally involve only the student and the University. Generally, the student's family is not informed while disciplinary procedures are underway. When, however, in the judgment of the University the welfare of the student or the community warrants communication, family members may be contacted during the disciplinary process. All disciplinary decisions resulting in serious penalties (especially, but not exclusively, withholding of degree, suspension, suspension with conditions, and expulsion) will be communicated to the student's family or other legal guardian, unless the student has before the commencement of the term in question filed a statement certifying that the student is not financially dependent as defined by the federal income tax laws.

2.5.5 Penalties
Penalties that may be applied by all University disciplinary bodies are set forth under section 1.1 "University-Principles of General Conduct and Regulations."

2.5.6 Grievance Procedures
Students are also afforded certain protections under federal and state laws, and may elect to file a harassment or discrimination complaint with a federal or state agency authorized to investigate such complaints. The appropriate agency will depend on the nature of the complaint and the status of the parties involved. One such agency is the United States Department of Education, Office for Civil Rights.

Information concerning grievance procedures is available under section 1.7.

 
rbg 
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01-20-19 01:32 AM - Post#273145    
    In response to rbg

With regards to penalties, here is the info from Section 1.1.

1.1 University Principles of General Conduct and Regulations
1.1.7 Range of Penalties
For violations of University-wide rules of conduct, members of the community are subject to several kinds of penalties. The applicability and exact nature of each penalty vary for faculty, academic professionals, staff and students.

The penalties for students, in ascending order of severity are:

1. Warning
A formal admonition that does not become part of an individual's permanent record, but that may be taken into account in judging the seriousness of any future violation.

2. Disciplinary Probation
A more serious admonition assigned for a definite amount of time. It implies that any future violation, of whatever kind, especially but not exclusively during that time, may be grounds for suspension, suspension with conditions, or in especially serious cases, expulsion from the University. Disciplinary probation will be taken into account in judging the seriousness of any subsequent infraction even if the probationary period has expired.

Disciplinary probation appears on an individual's permanent record at the University (but not on the transcript) and may be disclosed by the Office of the Dean of Undergraduate Students or the Office of the Dean of the Graduate School in response to requests for which the student has given permission or as otherwise legally required.

3. Withholding of Degree
In cases involving seniors or graduate students, the University may withhold a student's Princeton degree for a specified period of time. This penalty is imposed instead of suspension at the end of an undergraduate’s senior year or at the end of a graduate student’s program length where all other degree requirements have been met. A withheld degree is recorded on a student's transcript. Relevant information remains on the student's permanent record at the University and may be disclosed by the Office of the Dean of Undergraduate Students or the Office of the Dean of the Graduate School in response to requests for which the student has given permission or as otherwise legally required.

4. Suspension
Removal from membership in the University for a specified period of time. A suspension is recorded on a student's transcript. Relevant information remains on the student's permanent record at the University and may be disclosed by the Office of the Dean of Undergraduate Students or the Office of the Dean of the Graduate School in response to requests for which the student has given permission or as otherwise legally required.

5. Suspension with Conditions
Removal from membership in the University for at least the period of time specified by the suspension, with the suspension to continue until certain conditions, stipulated by the appropriate body applying this sanction, have been fulfilled. These conditions may include, but are not limited to, restitution of damages, formal apology, or counseling. A suspension with conditions is recorded on a student's transcript. Relevant information remains on the student's permanent record at the University and may be disclosed by the Office of the Dean of Undergraduate Students or the Office of the Dean of the Graduate School in response to requests for which the student has given permission or as otherwise legally required.

6. Expulsion
Permanent removal from membership in the University, without hope of readmission to the community. For members of the faculty, expulsion may involve revocation of tenure. Expulsion is recorded on a student's transcript. Relevant information remains on the student's permanent record at the University and may be disclosed by the Office of the Dean of Undergraduate Students or the Office of the Dean of the Graduate School in response to requests for which the student has given permission or as otherwise legally required.

7. Censure
University censure can be added to any of the other penalties listed above, except warning. Censure indicates the University's desire to underscore the seriousness of the violation and the absence of mitigating circumstances, and to convey that seriousness in response to future authorized inquiries about the given individual's conduct.

The following may accompany any of the preceding penalties:

Campus Service. Campus service up to 10 hours per week may be added to disciplinary probation for a portion or duration of the probationary period, or following a warning. This penalty may be particularly appropriate in cases involving vandalism, disorderly conduct, and alcohol-related infractions.

University Housing. When appropriate to the infraction, particularly in instances involving antisocial behavior having a serious impact on the residential community, removal from University housing or relocation within University housing may be added to any of the other penalties listed above, except warning. In the case of a first-year or sophomore, removal from housing is not an option as all underclass students must reside in a residential college. Relocation within residential colleges will be imposed only after consultation with the head of the student's residential college.

Access to Space, Resources, and Activities. When appropriate in cases involving behavioral misconduct between members of the community, restrictions may be placed on access to space and/or resources or on participation in activities so as to limit opportunities for contact among the parties.

Educational Refresher Programs. In addition to any of the penalties listed above, a student may be required to participate in educational refresher programs appropriate to the infraction.

 
Mike Porter 
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01-20-19 02:36 PM - Post#273172    
    In response to rbg

This is really a shame and hope it doesn’t turn out as bad as it sounds.

Agree with those above that frankly I’ve never seen someone under influence of marijuana being violent/aggressive in the way described here. Now if there was alcohol AND marijuana involved, that could be another story.

Just would hate to see so much effort and time put into his fantastic b-ball career come to an end this way over bad decisions in a single night, but some of life’s best lessons are the hardest ones.

 
LyleGold 
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Canady
01-20-19 03:24 PM - Post#273178    
    In response to Mike Porter

  • Mike Porter Said:
This is really a shame and hope it doesn’t turn out as bad as it sounds.

Agree with those above that frankly I’ve never seen someone under influence of marijuana being violent/aggressive in the way described here. Now if there was alcohol AND marijuana involved, that could be another story.

Just would hate to see so much effort and time put into his fantastic b-ball career come to an end this way over bad decisions in a single night, but some of life’s best lessons are the hardest ones.



First of all, stoned guys aren't violent. Violent guys are. Let's wait for the truth to come out which hopefully will be soon.

Second of all, this is another example of why Ivy teams should not schedule their travel partner games so close together. They should be spread throughout the league season just like the weekends are. We were stuck playing both Princeton games with injuries weakening us and Canady available. We now don't benefit from his suspension the way the rest of the league probably will.

Enough of the "fine young man, one moment of bad judgment, blah, blah, blah." We are all one moment of insanity away from ruining our lives. An adult either realizes that and keeps it together or blows it and faces the consequences. Maybe Canady blew it or maybe it's not as bad as it seems. Let's move on and talk basketball.

 
AntiUngvar 
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01-21-19 12:03 AM - Post#273213    
    In response to LyleGold

It needs to be noted at some point that none of us are perfect; and, in my humble opinion, that we tend to look at this situation the way white people have historically looked at these types of things- you need not agree, and I will have nothing more to offer on the subject.


 
SRP 
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01-21-19 02:56 PM - Post#273246    
    In response to AntiUngvar

The Sunday L.A. Times had a squib noting this incident. I suspect the embarrassment and reputation impact of this (if the facts do not resolve in his favor) is going to be the hardest part for DC to deal with. MH has been pretty vocal in talking him up as a team leader, his nonprofit venture in Africa got publicity in past years, etc.--it's a lot to lose.

 
yoyo 
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01-21-19 04:39 PM - Post#273259    
    In response to SRP

Is he currently suspended from school too or just the basketball team?

 
rbg 
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01-21-19 05:15 PM - Post#273265    
    In response to yoyo

From The Trentonian article and a reading of the school rules, it would seem that Cannady is just suspended from the basketball team.

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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01-21-19 07:28 PM - Post#273281    
    In response to rbg

I'm wondering how a student can swing at a cop, get arrested, and show for an exam the next day or so. No basis for saying that of course. No idea how quickly the University can review and act.

 
westcoast 
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01-21-19 07:55 PM - Post#273284    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

It's also very possible that Cannady had already finished his exams for the first semester by Thursday night. Most students have a lighter course load as seniors, sometimes with only 2-3 classes in addition to their senior thesis. And instead of finals, many classes have final papers, which would have been due at the end of Reading Period.

 
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