AntiUngvar
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01-28-19 11:00 AM - Post#273872
With one semester left before he was to graduate, Rodney Hunter is now apparently gone from Columbia College and the men's basketball program. Rodney began this season as part of Columbia's starting five; and the coach crowed about what a pleasant surprise Hunter had been for the program during the pre-season practices and scrimmages; and merely two months later, Rodney Hunter is gone. That's now SIX student athletes and TWO coaches who've jumped Jim Engles' sinking ship in the last fifteen months- a startling rate of attrition matched ONLY in Washington, D.C. by the Trump administration. This is not, mind you, nearly an issue for any of the other Ivy member schools; ONLY HERE! IN NEW YORK CITY- FOR THE SCHOOL IN MORNINGSIDE HEIGHTS. And still the sniffling geezers who write in here all too regularly, professing their love for Columbia basketball and supplying information about amounts of monies they've donated to the CU athletic program over the years, refuse to demand answers from Peter Pilling and Jim Engles as to the appropriate, obvious and necessary questions. Not even any of those interlopers, who have time to come on here and lecture on all forms of inappropriate language, have time for this subject- a student athlete's quitting a team is the sporting equivalent of suicide; and it should be of concern to us all.
Edited by AntiUngvar on 01-28-19 11:14 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Billy Hoyle
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01-29-19 04:13 PM - Post#274045
In response to AntiUngvar
maybe his dad will come and explain what happened. He was a such a promoter of Hunter before he enrolled. What a foolish decision to leave now (unless he had no choice). One more semester and he could graduate and go find a school that would take a grad transfer with his stats.
Also, there is a difference between "quitting" and "transferring." Many factors go into transferring and on some occasions, players don't have a choice and there are circumstances most will never know about. I think back to the years of criticism Kyle Smith took for Dyami Starks when people didn't know why Starks left.
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AntiUngvar
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Rodney Hunter; yet another Engles casualty 01-29-19 05:47 PM - Post#274051
In response to Billy Hoyle
I think back to the years of criticism Kyle Smith took for Dyami Starks when people didn't know why Starks left.
Billy: Kyle Smith may have had one kid leave in an unsettling way, during his entire six years at Columbia; meanwhile, his successor's had SIX players and TWO assistant coaches leave in one year- which of these situation do you think is more unsettling?
Edited by AntiUngvar on 01-29-19 05:48 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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SomeGuy
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01-29-19 06:53 PM - Post#274063
In response to Billy Hoyle
One odd thought. Can Hunter actually come back and play his final year of eligibility at Columbia next year if he leaves School now? If he graduated in the spring, he’d have to go the grad route like Castlin. But if he left School, could he come back to finish next year and play basketball?
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cc66
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Rodney Hunter; yet another Engles casualty 01-29-19 07:16 PM - Post#274070
In response to SomeGuy
He's not coming back to school or to Columbia basketball.
Let's just say that the parent of a current player was quite uncomfortable passing on even this little bit of information. I'm the one who speculated that if someone leaves the team at the end of January after grades come out, his departure probably has something to do with his academic performance. This speculation could be completely erroneous, though his departure from school suggests that whatever happened had absolutely nothing to do with the basketball program.
Edited by cc66 on 01-29-19 07:17 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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AntiUngvar
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Re: odney Hunter; yet another Engles casualty 01-29-19 07:28 PM - Post#274077
In response to cc66
Rodney participated in all games to date, apart from those versus Cornell. A number of those took place after the fall semester ended- namely, those versus Rutgers, Northwestern, Binghamton and Elmira.
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SomeGuy
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Re: odney Hunter; yet another Engles casualty 01-29-19 07:28 PM - Post#274078
In response to cc66
Got it. Yes, it seems clear that there is nothing to gain basketball-wise from leaving. And it could preclude even going the graduate route. Doesn’t have to be grades, necessarily, but obviously something personal.
Wish Rodney and his family the best.
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RHunter3
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01-30-19 12:13 PM - Post#274140
In response to SomeGuy
I won't go into all of the details. For starters it's not grades related. He's grades are good as they have always been. It's also nothing with Coach Engles, he and the AD have been great as far as the situation is concerned. Rodney has done everything he's been asked to do and sacrificing his game for the team. He loves the team and the school.
Hint...............He will be back(summer) with 2 years of eligibility left and one can/will be at Columbia.
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AntiUngvar
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01-30-19 12:18 PM - Post#274142
In response to RHunter3
Can only hope there's some truth to this- time will certainly tell.
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RHunter3
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01-30-19 12:21 PM - Post#274144
In response to AntiUngvar
He will be back in May------100%
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AntiUngvar
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01-30-19 12:47 PM - Post#274146
In response to RHunter3
I can only hope I'm alive another 90 days to witness it; but, even if I'm not, it's good to hear there still are some guarantees left in this lifetime!
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cc66
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01-30-19 01:43 PM - Post#274165
In response to RHunter3
Glad to be wrong about the reason. Good to hear he will be coming back.
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hoopsfan
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01-30-19 02:42 PM - Post#274181
In response to cc66
Thank you Mr. Hunter.
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Columbia 37P6
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Rodney Hunter; yet another Engles casualty 01-30-19 04:39 PM - Post#274195
In response to hoopsfan
Thank you very much Mr Hunter for the clarification. I am delighted to learn that Rodney will be returning to Columbia this summer "with 2 years of eligibility left and one can/will be at Columbia." Also, I am glad to hear that his leaving now has nothing whatsoever to do with Coach Engles and is not grade related as some had wrongly speculated. Whatever the situation is, I believe that all Columbia fans wish the Hunter family the very best. For my part, I have enjoyed reading all of your wise posts on this Board the past three years and look forward to dialoguing with your further.
Edited by Columbia 37P6 on 01-30-19 04:40 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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TheLine
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01-30-19 05:38 PM - Post#274206
In response to Columbia 37P6
Thanks for the update, Mr. Hunter. Glad to hear everything is well. And always good to have an option for a grad year on scholarship.
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Billy Hoyle
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Re: odney Hunter; yet another Engles casualty 01-30-19 09:12 PM - Post#274227
In response to AntiUngvar
I wasn't comparing Kyle and Engles' attrition, just that there are many circumstances for transfer beyond playing time and happiness with the coaches that many never know about and don't always fall on the coach.
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Billy Hoyle
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Re: odney Hunter; yet another Engles casualty 01-30-19 09:20 PM - Post#274229
In response to Columbia 37P6
Thank you very much Mr Hunter for the clarification. I am delighted to learn that Rodney will be returning to Columbia this summer "with 2 years of eligibility left and one can/will be at Columbia."
Two additional years of eligibility is not possible as he's already used three: 16-17, 17-18 and 18-19. He played in 13 games this season so unless CU plays in 44 games this year he cannot get this year back. Plus, he only has one more year of eligibility in his five-year clock due to his redshirt as a freshman. One gets five years to play four.
I hope the kid isn't getting erroneous advice.
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RHunter3
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Re: odney Hunter; yet another Engles casualty 01-30-19 09:35 PM - Post#274231
In response to Billy Hoyle
The information is good. He will get a 6th year.
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TheLine
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01-31-19 09:05 AM - Post#274239
In response to RHunter3
Last year there were changes to the NCAA rules on redshirting but I think the only change to the number of games played applies to football.
The one way to get a 6th year is to take an academic year off - like what Rosenberg did. Does that mean Rodney has 1 1/2 years eligibility remaining? I'm unclear on how half seasons work.
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AntiUngvar
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Re: odney Hunter; yet another Engles casualty 01-31-19 10:52 AM - Post#274245
In response to Billy Hoyle
Two additional years of eligibility is not possible as he's already used three: 16-17, 17-18 and 18-19. He played in 13 games this season so unless CU plays in 44 games this year he cannot get this year back. Plus, he only has one more year of eligibility in his five-year clock due to his redshirt as a freshman. One gets five years to play four.
I hope the kid isn't getting erroneous advice.
Think you're on point as usual, Billy; and this is starting to look like another only at Columbia situation.
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