Chip Bayers
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02-02-19 12:07 AM - Post#274693
In response to whitakk
What’s the university or athletic department rule regarding Cannady’s situation that has people believing he will return as early as next week? Are we expecting the police to drop the charges?
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bradley
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02-02-19 12:12 AM - Post#274694
In response to whitakk
I agree that the last 25 minutes of the game was poor offensively by the Tigers especially the turnovers. Even with Cannady, the Tigers have not been a good 3 pt shooting team and unlike prior years, their offensive strength is now their inside power game. It would obviously be a huge plus if and when Cannady returns -- they need him badly.
Columbia just does not look very athletic with the exception of Tape and not a lot of height. They look like they need a new strength coach based on their play over the past few years. Other than last year, Columbia and Penn have been very generous when playing Princeton which is kind of them.
Kenpom has Tigers as the #159 ranked team, 5th in the IL -- love the lagging indicators of analytics.
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SRP
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02-02-19 04:13 AM - Post#274706
In response to bradley
I have to admit that I kind of like to win a rock fight, especially when the D is good enough to make it feel like a blowout even though the team scored only two FTs in the first ten minutes of the second half. Some truly horrendous possessions, dribbling into traffic in slow motion, throwing the ball away, but the effort on the other end never flagged.
Llewelyn looked a bit better offensively, but again the importance of Morales showed through in breaking the press, getting some quick penetration, and just preventing the team from looking like it had no ideas on some possessions. I would really like to see a bit more of Aririguzoh getting the ball in the high post with some space around him, because he's a good passer and I think he can turn and drive on guys guarding him.
Loved Schweiger's overall game. He had an early three go in and out and I thought he might disappear, but then MH stayed with him and he abused his defenders repeatedly. Stephens played a terrific two-way game, and I was glad he shot (and made) a three after looking bad on a couple of earlier attempts. He has to take that shot to keep the other team honest.
3-0 with two road wins in the bank is not half bad, especially with the new-found defensive identity the team has developed in conference. On to the frozen tundra of Ithaca to handle the Fighting Earls.
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1LotteryPick1969
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02-02-19 08:43 AM - Post#274711
In response to SRP
I would really like to see a bit more of Aririguzoh getting the ball in the high post with some space around him, because he's a good passer and I think he can turn and drive on guys guarding him.
Columbia was really focused on Aririguzoh--very difficult to get him the ball, and when we did, his defender was draped over his back, and the double arrived quickly.
The double is new to him, and he's going to have to learn quickly where to find the open man. To get open, he will need to move quickly to his spot, and the ball will need to arrive almost immediately. Let's see.
Much had 3 turnovers in 9 minutes in the first half; Desrosiers 4 in eight minutes in the second half. Only one basket between them, but 10 rebounds. One could call it a fair night were it not for the turnovers.
Only 7 team buckets in the second half, nothing for 10 on threes. Three buckets from Stephens, two from Schwieger.
As everyone has said, the defense was there but someone not named Myles needs to start hitting the 3 ball to open the court.
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SRP
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02-02-19 10:59 AM - Post#274731
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
I think it's harder to double the high post than the low because doing so exposes the rim and there are more directions to pass out of it. RA was mostly down low when he was targeted for passes, or if he got it high it was just as a momentary outlet. I do wonder if opponents will zone up more if the outside shooting doesn't improve and the passing and off-ball movement continue to be so stagnant.
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1LotteryPick1969
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02-02-19 11:37 AM - Post#274733
In response to SRP
I watched Tennessee play earlier in the week--really aggressive movement up court, drive to the hoop, dish to the big when the defense moves to the driver.
There were a few instances yesterday where I thought Morales had a better play dishing to Aririguzoh.
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JadwinGeorge
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02-02-19 12:01 PM - Post#274737
In response to SRP
"Rock fight" indeed. Coming in to the weekend I believed we could not have picked better opponents after the long hiatus and after losing Cannady. I thought we could hold our own against them while we "find our way." Not necessarily win, but give ourselves a chance. Columbia played about as poorly as I have seen, much worse than they did in either Cornell game. While the Tigers played hard nosed D, the Lions had a lot of pretty good looks without making much of anything. The inbounds pass to Stephens with 1 second left on the shot clock was beautifully crafted. His conversion demonstrated poise, athleticism and courage. An All-Ivy highlight play...Schwieger exploited the matchups with Killingsworth and Adlesh like an assassin. But the Tigers get blown out by almost anyone in the League if we turn the ball over like that.
SRP is on the money suggesting we might be vulnerable to zones since neither Llewellyn nor Morales is shooting very well from deep. Time for Derosiers and/or Much to get back to their Penn form. We may be OK without one of them, but not both. RA should have his way tonight. Brodeur had a good game there yesterday. We know Brian Earl is a winner and his players are all in. This will be a tough game, much tougher than last night. The Big Red scored 80 against Penn, while we struggled to get to 60 twice. Tigers are -2 right now, which is hard to believe!
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umbrellaman
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02-02-19 12:38 PM - Post#274742
In response to SRP
I was at Levien. Columbia couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn but I did wonder what would happen if they zoned Princeton and see if the Cannady less Tigers could hit threes on the road. I suspect will see some of that in Ithaca.
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bradley
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02-02-19 01:49 PM - Post#274749
In response to JadwinGeorge
As former coach Gannini stated, Columbia's defense was good while Tiger's defense was great. Stephens took Stefanini completely off his game, 2-10 with 7 turnovers, and Stefanini sets Columbia's offense in motion. Adlesh had a few open looks, more so in the 2nd half, but he was 5-16 and 1-4 on 3s. As Giannini pointed out, Tigers would not allow Columbia to get off 3 point shots. Stephens and Llewellyn were the primary guys who took Columbia out of any rhythm as they did against Penn with Arirguzoh. The theory that Columbia missed a bunch of uncontested shots, I do not understand.
Will Coach Earl have something up his sleeve to free up Morgan and other Cornell players, offensively? -- probably. It will be Llewellyn and/or Stephens on Morgan. Got a lot of respect for Coach Earl and he knows Henderson's instincts quite well.
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whitakk
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02-02-19 02:10 PM - Post#274756
In response to umbrellaman
Columbia was in zone for a lot of the first half, but they didn't play it well and Princeton found gaps pretty easily.
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