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Username Post: Bilsky Decides to Announce he Hates the Tournament        (Topic#22561)
LyleGold 
PhD Student
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Reg: 11-22-04
Re: Bilsky Decides to Announce he Hates the Tournament
02-06-19 07:46 AM - Post#275174    
    In response to UPIA1968

That would be better yet. Anything that strengthens the regular season is a move in the right direction. However, the Ivy League office has decided that the joint men's and women's tournament should be a marketing spectacle that brings together the "Ivy League Community" to celebrate itself. It wants to trot out its 16 legends (8 men, 8 women) and put out the eight piece ice sculpture so people can pose for photographs. Disperse playoff games scattered around the league would ruin the festival atmosphere the league wants. I agree about the Friday-Sunday schedule by the way.

 
PennFan10 
Postdoc
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02-06-19 10:04 AM - Post#275191    
    In response to LyleGold

The ice sculpture was a nice touch.

 
Naismith 
Sophomore
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Loc: RI
Reg: 11-11-18
Re: Bilsky Decides to Announce he Hates the Tournament
02-06-19 10:48 AM - Post#275198    
    In response to OldBig5

For most of 40 years, six Ivy teams not named Penn and Princeton saw their seasons' championship hopes essentially end by Ground Hog Day with no apparent complaints. In the new world, P&P facing parity seem to now love getting a second chance.

 
palestra38 
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Reg: 11-21-04
Re: Bilsky Decides to Announce he Hates the Tournament
02-06-19 11:27 AM - Post#275205    
    In response to Naismith

Where do you get that conclusion? I would say that 80% of the Penn posters and close to 100% of the Princeton posters opposed a tournament. A tournament was put into place. Do you not want us to discuss our chances to get into the tournament now that it is here? No, it's not fair, but it is what it is. I see no hypocrisy, though.

 
10Q 
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Reg: 11-21-04
02-06-19 11:43 AM - Post#275209    
    In response to palestra38

I can do 2 things at once. I can:

1. Dislike intensely the loss of tradition and 14 game tournament and,

2. Be intensely relieved that the rest of the season matters.

 
SteveChop 
PhD Student
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Reg: 07-28-07
02-06-19 12:17 PM - Post#275219    
    In response to 10Q

Count me in with P38 and 10Q. I was strongly against the tournament (and remain so) BUT since that IS the situation for this season, I want to see Penn in it and win it.

 
LyleGold 
PhD Student
Posts: 1712

Reg: 11-22-04
02-06-19 12:46 PM - Post#275229    
    In response to PennFan10

  • PennFan10 Said:
The ice sculpture was a nice touch.



Sure, it was. I liked it a lot. I liked winning the tournament even more.


 
Go Green 
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Re: Bilsky Decides to Announce he Hates the Tournament
02-07-19 02:48 PM - Post#275358    
    In response to UPIA1968

  • UPIA1968 Said:
Why not Friday night and Sunday afternoon games with all games at the home gym of the favorite? Still a four-team tournament.



Because the league wants both the men's and women's tournaments held at the same site.


That's going to be the answer to any form of "why don't we have it at the top seed's home court" suggestion.



 
dperry 
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dperry
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Re: Bilsky Decides to Announce he Hates the Tournament
02-08-19 12:32 AM - Post#275434    
    In response to Go Green

  • Go Green Said:
  • UPIA1968 Said:
Why not Friday night and Sunday afternoon games with all games at the home gym of the favorite? Still a four-team tournament.



Because the league wants both the men's and women's tournaments held at the same site.


That's going to be the answer to any form of "why don't we have it at the top seed's home court" suggestion.





I think the women's teams are holding on a little too tight to formal equality, IMO at the expense of doing things that might actually get them more attention. Having that tournament at the top seed would help increase the crowd and would get them out from under the shadow of the men. I'm not sure any other conference plays both tournaments in the same place and at the same time, and there certainly aren't many.
David Perry
Penn '92
"Hail, Alma Mater/Thy sons cheer thee now
To thee, Pennsylvania/All rivals must bow!!!"


 
dperry 
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dperry
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Re: Bilsky Decides to Announce he Hates the Tournament
02-08-19 12:35 AM - Post#275435    
    In response to OldBig5

  • OldBig5 Said:


And yet somehow it works for the other conferences.



The other small conferences do it. Whether it actually works for them is precisely the point in dispute.
David Perry
Penn '92
"Hail, Alma Mater/Thy sons cheer thee now
To thee, Pennsylvania/All rivals must bow!!!"


 
OldBig5 
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Re: Bilsky Decides to Announce he Hates the Tournament
02-08-19 08:36 PM - Post#275543    
    In response to dperry

  • dperry Said:
  • OldBig5 Said:


And yet somehow it works for the other conferences.



The other small conferences do it. Whether it actually works for them is precisely the point in dispute.



Have any of them dropped the tournament?

 
dperry 
Postdoc
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dperry
Loc: Houston, TX
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02-08-19 10:56 PM - Post#275605    
    In response to OldBig5

Has any of them done a serious cost-benefit analysis?
David Perry
Penn '92
"Hail, Alma Mater/Thy sons cheer thee now
To thee, Pennsylvania/All rivals must bow!!!"


 
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