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Username Post: Cornell        (Topic#22619)
84grad 
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02-09-19 07:56 PM - Post#275700    

Bassey not dressed. Kirkwood starting.

 
AntiUngvar 
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Re: Cornell
02-09-19 10:12 PM - Post#275743    
    In response to 84grad

That obviously did matter; in any case, you did a pretty fine job on Matt Morgan without Bassey on the court. But as I wrote to HSG yesterday, Jimmy Boeheim's a nice front court player for Big Red, and he murdered you tonight!


 
mobrien 
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02-09-19 10:45 PM - Post#275752    
    In response to AntiUngvar

Turnovers, turnovers, turnovers, and, oh yeah, turnovers.

Bryce, who was noticeably limping in the second half, kept getting stuck overpenetrating. He had three bad ones almost in a row towards the end of the second half. But everyone was just giving the ball away. (Side note: a few of them were on especially questionable offensive fouls. The refereeing in this game was, I thought, worse than usual).

What really hurt was Cornell's bigs shooting threes. It wasn't just Boeheim. I think they got three other threes from their centers. Would have liked to have seen a few more lineups with Baker at the 5 in response to that, before it got really out of hand. Besides, that would open up some more driving lanes on offense, and it wasn't like Lewis was having a great night. He missed a bunch of close in ones he usually makes in the second half.

Bottom line: we have to protect the ball, and the three point line better. Next weekend is going to be a tough test, the Ps on the road.

 
Chip Bayers 
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02-09-19 10:53 PM - Post#275758    
    In response to mobrien

  • Quote:
refereeing in this game was, I thought, worse than usual).



Ah, Saturday night in the Ivy League is so reliable.


 
westcoast 
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02-09-19 11:06 PM - Post#275762    
    In response to Chip Bayers

Amaker not happy, calling the team selfish tonight - https://twitter.com/steve_hewitt/status/1 094426965...

 
SRP 
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02-09-19 11:28 PM - Post#275765    
    In response to westcoast

Wow, very out of character for the normally calm and upbeat TA.

 
SomeGuy 
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Re: Cornell
02-10-19 11:47 PM - Post#275837    
    In response to 84grad

What happened to Corey Johnson? Is he hurt? With no Bassey, I would have expected him to get some time.

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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02-11-19 12:08 AM - Post#275838    
    In response to SomeGuy

Corey was on crutches and unavailable all weekend

 
whitakk 
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02-11-19 12:10 AM - Post#275839    
    In response to westcoast

Wow - that's basically a Bob Knight-level rant when compared to Amaker's usual demeanor...

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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02-11-19 12:55 PM - Post#275889    
    In response to whitakk

Tommy certainly has cause.

First and foremost, Kudos the the Lions and the Big Red, each of whom did enough to win.

Even though Harvard's play wasn't stellar against Yale and Brown, it was abysmal this past weekend.

To underscore, look at Assists vs TO's
Yale: 12A v 18TO
Brown: 12 v 16
Columbia: 9 v 18
Cornell: 7 v 24

Columbia played a great game on Friday and Harvard was fortunate to escape with a victory. Cornell played a good second half after trailing by 15. Sure Harvard was exhausted, banged up and short handed, but Amaker is correct in holding the players accountable as Harvard is good enough to have won that game.

No idea whether the walking wounded including Bassey, Juzang, Aiken and/or Johnson will be at full strength next weekend, but I don't think that's going to be Tommy's point of emphasis at practice this week. The Crimson have to play better basketball to be relevant come March.

On a separate point, all of Harvard's bigs were invisible on offense this weekend - even Chris Lewis. Columbia's Tape has developed nicely. He shot 15-17 for the weekend! His height, however, likely ironically cost Columbia Friday night's game as Bryce Aiken was able to jump and still fit underneath (via a double pump) Tape's attempt to block his shot.

 
PennFan10 
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02-11-19 01:20 PM - Post#275892    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

That shot by Aiken was amazing. SportsCenter top 10 #1 play. I can't believe he made that.

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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02-11-19 01:48 PM - Post#275896    
    In response to PennFan10

Certainly Friday night was a special night to be in attendance. Columbia had the game won a few times. I know this is a controversial subject, but I thought both Engles and Earl coached great games.

Bryce is a unique talent, but at times his teammates end up standing around and watching him. Of course, this could be because Bryce isn't looking for them (e.g., 0 assists and 7 TO's vs Cornell). Perhaps missing OOC play together impacted this weekend.

Question: With a 3 point lead, Columbia had fouled Bryce on the preceding two possessions. Hard to tell if Columbia was trying to foul him on the final possession of the first OT. Bryce caught the inbounds on the run and sprinted away from his man before shifting to his left avoiding the fist help defender. Did he avoid being fouled by those two or had Engles decided to back off? Certainly, Tape didn't want to foul Bryce as he was shooting by then. Someone must have asked Engles after the game but I didn't see it.

By the way, that was blood from Bryce's knee soaking through his leggings. Curt Schilling reboot?

 
SRP 
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02-11-19 01:57 PM - Post#275897    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

My take on Aiken continues to be that he's more of a scorer than a PG. Even Kobe Bryant could make beautiful passes on occasion, and in some games log high assist numbers, but in his soul he always believed it was best if he took the shot. The exception was when he had a formidable scorer like Shaq on the court. Perhaps Towns is the equivalent of Shaq for Aiken.

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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02-11-19 01:58 PM - Post#275900    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

In case it wasn't clear, Bryce is amazing, has the heart of a lion and Harvard is fortunate to have him. I'm a fan and will enjoy the time we have left with him.

Nevertheless, I think Coach Amaker has issues with the way the team played this weekend. Remember, these guys beat St. Mary's and almost beat SF on the road without Bryce and Chris Lewis. They can and have played better than this if they play differently - healthy or otherwise.


 
AntiUngvar 
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02-11-19 02:29 PM - Post#275904    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

You know, HDG, I just don't get why Freedman doesn't get on the court, at all. Given the need this past weekend for reinforcements, and all the Harvard turnovers, I just can't believe this kid doesn't deserve a minute or two of activity.


 
SomeGuy 
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02-11-19 04:14 PM - Post#275916    
    In response to AntiUngvar

On the turnovers, Freedman has the highest turnover percentage on the team in nearly 200 minutes. So he probably isn’t the answer to that question (yet).



 
AntiUngvar 
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02-11-19 06:24 PM - Post#275948    
    In response to SomeGuy

Not the point; and, in any event, nobody's asking you.


 
SomeGuy 
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02-11-19 07:18 PM - Post#275960    
    In response to AntiUngvar

I apologize. I apparently misunderstood your point when you said “given . . . all the Harvard turnovers.”

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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02-11-19 07:46 PM - Post#275968    
    In response to SomeGuy

A few of us pondered the state of Harvard's guard situation on Saturday night.

Bryce was exhausted and beat up.
Christian was exhausted and left the game early in the second half with a leg injury. He could barely walk after the game.
Corey was injured.
Justin wasn't dressed.
That left Rio Haskett and Noah Kirkwood as the only healthy guards in the regular 10 man rotation, and they are down the depth chart in large part because they are turnover prone at the early stages of their careers.

Coach Earl saw this as well and Cornell pressed for almost the entire second half.

Looking down the bench, Spencer and Tommy McCarthy were the next options, but they haven't played much recently. We concluded that given all the switching that was going on, it was likely that Spencer would be exploited on defense, especially by Matt Morgan or the forwards.

Instead, Bryce and Christian - each of whom were obviously spent - tried to gut it out but the ball movement clearly stopped and the press began to take its toll.

Edited by HARVARDDADGRAD on 02-11-19 07:47 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
AntiUngvar 
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Re: Cornell
02-11-19 08:32 PM - Post#275973    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

Thanks, HDG; that does make some sense to me, though McCarthy's been around the block, and Spencer was a top recruit. Sorry about that jackass's intrusiveness; can't help himself, and just trying to belong somewhere, I guess.


 
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