westcoast
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03-01-19 06:59 PM - Post#278616
Probably worth it's own thread, without a misleading title. Princeton announced today that "Devin Cannady has decided to take a voluntary leave of absence from school to attend to a personal matter and, consequently, will not be playing basketball for the remainder of the season. He has our full support."
http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/article/2019/03/c...
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Chip Bayers
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03-01-19 07:10 PM - Post#278617
In response to westcoast
Is this a way of avoiding some pending university punishment related to the incident?
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Tiger69
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03-01-19 07:13 PM - Post#278619
In response to Chip Bayers
Get lost, vulture.
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westcoast
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03-01-19 07:29 PM - Post#278621
In response to Chip Bayers
Is this a way of avoiding some pending university punishment related to the incident?
No.
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westcoast
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03-01-19 07:37 PM - Post#278623
In response to westcoast
Devin Cannady posted this on Twitter a few minutes ago:
"I’d like to thank our AD, the athletic department, and the coaching staff for supporting me through this tough time. While it saddens me that I’ll no longer suit up for the program that I gave my all to, they will have my continued support as they pursue another Ivy League Title."
https://twitter.com/devin_cannady3/status /11016190...
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1LotteryPick1969
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03-01-19 08:10 PM - Post#278632
In response to westcoast
Is there ANY CHANCE he can come back for the second semester next year and play?
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Chip Bayers
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03-01-19 08:23 PM - Post#278643
In response to Tiger69
Get lost, vulture.
It’s a legitimate question. You’re being an a$$.
Edited by Chip Bayers on 03-01-19 08:23 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Tiger69
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03-01-19 10:14 PM - Post#278759
In response to Chip Bayers
Stay on your own board, jerk.
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Chip Bayers
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03-01-19 10:23 PM - Post#278767
In response to Tiger69
Ever notice it’s only the particularly clueless who trot out this dumb line? Before you it was AntiUngvar. What’s next, unprompted slagging of me on Twitter?
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umbrellaman
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Re: Devin Cannady to miss rest of 2018-19 season
03-01-19 10:36 PM - Post#278769
In response to Chip Bayers
I don’t see how that makes sense. The school reinstated him so his penalty was over on the punch. I don’t see how he avoids anything by withdrawing- he can’t come back until Spring 2020 - only more severe penalty would be multiyear suspension (which is rare, and if they thought he deserved it, they would have given it to him).
Pure speculation - I could imagine a condition of the charges being dropped could be that he participates in substance abuse treatment. Which might be the best thing for him in the long run.
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1LotteryPick1969
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Re: Devin Cannady to miss rest of 2018-19 season
03-01-19 10:58 PM - Post#278774
In response to umbrellaman
That's a good conjecture. How about this one: he has fallen so far behind on his thesis he can't finish it, and also not looking good for mid-terms.
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rbg
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03-01-19 11:04 PM - Post#278776
In response to umbrellaman
https://www.trentonian.com/sports/princeton-s-de vi...
https://www.instagram.com/p/BufLOTlg-IcwAUmHmdN 6W-...
The Trentonian article has the quote from the Athletic Department spokesperson at the time of DC's reinstatment that mentioned that the University had completed its investigation and adjudication. It must not have been so severe a punishment, since Cannady was back playing.
The charges also were reduced, which is certainly a positive for him.
While I am sure this has been very stressful for the young man, could he have just stepped away from the team and not the university - especially just a few months shy of graduation? Of course, he might just want to go away completely and be with his family, but with everything looking better than it did a month ago, I would think he would want to finish his time at Princeton and then move on, even if he decided to give up on college hoops.
Could this have anything to do with the Princeton Department of Safety being upset at the recent results?
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bradley
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03-01-19 11:29 PM - Post#278781
In response to Tiger69
Get lost, vulture.
The Dartmouth announcers handled with class the Cannady situation unlike the Chipster but it follows his normal behavior of being classless -- not the least bit surprising.
Princeton announced their full support for Devin as Devin addresses the situation. Only Devin, his lawyer and Princeton have full and complete information.
One of Chipster's compradres has previously expressed opinions with no knowledge -- demonstrating being clueless legally as well as some other attributes.
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Chip Bayers
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Re: Devin Cannady to miss rest of 2018-19 season
03-02-19 12:23 AM - Post#278787
In response to umbrellaman
I don’t see how that makes sense. The school reinstated him so his penalty was over on the punch. I don’t see how he avoids anything by withdrawing- he can’t come back until Spring 2020 - only more severe penalty would be multiyear suspension (which is rare, and if they thought he deserved it, they would have given it to him).
Pure speculation - I could imagine a condition of the charges being dropped could be that he participates in substance abuse treatment. Which might be the best thing for him in the long run.
OK Pat, I take your point, and your speculation. The next significant date in the court case is supposed to be Monday, right? So speculating it has to do with that rather than the university makes sense.
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westcoast
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03-02-19 03:09 AM - Post#278799
In response to Chip Bayers
Devin posted a thank you note to the coaches and staff online, saying that he intends to return for his final semester in the near future, and that since he has no eligibility remaining, he will be signing with an agent and declaring for the NBA draft.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BufLOTlg-IcwAUmHmdN 6W-...
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03-02-19 08:25 AM - Post#278804
In response to westcoast
The stuff about the NBA draft makes sense. Until this whole mess happened, Devin was looking like a legit NBA prospect -- a great athlete who was shooting ~40% on ~10 3pt attempts per game. That's insane. But ever since the suspension, his 3pt % has tanked hard and hurt his draft stock. He's no longer locked in mentally.
Also, the team is doing just fine without him in league play, shifting to a slower, interior-minded offense. As an added bonus, Jaelin, Schwieger, Desrosiers and Much will have more opportunities to develop. And Myles will officially be "the man" during crunch time. He's earned that reward.
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rbg
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03-06-19 10:41 AM - Post#279542
In response to gokinsmen
Any news on Cannady's March 4th court appearance? There doesn't seem to be anything on the Daily Princetonian or the Trentonian about it.
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JadwinGeorge
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03-06-19 11:02 AM - Post#279545
In response to rbg
Postponed for second time
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1LotteryPick1969
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03-06-19 11:21 AM - Post#279547
In response to JadwinGeorge
Will he be able to participate in Senior Night?
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JadwinGeorge
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03-06-19 12:01 PM - Post#279554
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
Very probably not. He has taken a leave of absence from school and is believed to have left the campus.
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bradley
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03-06-19 03:22 PM - Post#279596
In response to JadwinGeorge
Based on Mitch Henderson's radio show last night, I do not believe that Devin will be at the game Saturday night which is sad but understandable. I am sure that all three seniors including Myles will be in the starting line up even in the unlikely event that the game is meaningful.
Coach discussed the need for leaving the bench two minutes into last Friday night's game at Dartmouth which certainly provided a wild card in clinching a spot. He also discussed the dissapointment regarding the offensive play at Harvard.
One statistic that is somewhat surprising is that the Tiger's women and men teams are the two best free throw shooting teams of the 16 in the IL. The women are shooting at 77.5% for the year while the men approximately 3 pts lower but lead the IL men. The women as a league are shooting FTs' slightly better than the men and the worst FT shooting team by a significant amount is a men's team. One of the plusses for the Tigers regarding this stat is the high percentage shooting by the two bigs, Richmond and Bella.
The men are also being fouled more than prior years probably due to their inside game.
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TigerFan
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Devin Cannady to miss rest of 2018-19 season
03-07-19 01:20 AM - Post#279658
In response to bradley
Bradley said:
in the unlikely event that the game is meaningful.
A tie for the Ivy League Championship counts as an Ivy League Co-Championship. If the Tigers win Friday night, then they will still be in the running to be co-champions going into Saturday’s game against Yale. I would consider that “meaningful,†even if seeding in the tournament is not at stake.
Edited by TigerFan on 03-07-19 01:23 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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palestra38
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Re: Devin Cannady to miss rest of 2018-19 season
03-07-19 07:27 AM - Post#279660
In response to TigerFan
Of course it is meaningful and should be treated that way. But if you want to consider the manner in which the tournament has perverted the thinking of fans, I had to battle a group of dedicated long time Penn fans who believed that if Princeton beats Brown, Penn should play its starters sparingly against Yale to make sure they are fresh for Brown the next night because they still will have to win that game to get in at 6-8.
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bradley
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Re: Devin Cannady to miss rest of 2018-19 season
03-07-19 09:01 AM - Post#279661
In response to TigerFan
I completely agree that Saturday night's game will be meaningful if the Tigers beat Brown on Friday night - I incorrectly categorized Saturday night's game if the Tigers beat Brown which will be very challenging. It may not matter if the Tigers sweep as I would not be surprised if Harvard sweeps on the road.
As previously stated many times, I would rather have the Tigers with a banner in the rafters or being champions or co-champions of the regular season vs. winning IvyMadness even though they would not go to the Big Dance. I will be at the games on Friday and Saturday night but not in New Haven for sure.
It was wonderful that Banghart addressed the subject on her podcast describing the importance of players after graduation seeing a championship banner in the rafters based on what they achieved during the regular season. She used it as motivation in the huddle last Saturday night in the Harvard game.
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bradley
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Re: Devin Cannady to miss rest of 2018-19 season
03-07-19 05:12 PM - Post#279780
In response to palestra38
Of course it is meaningful and should be treated that way. But if you want to consider the manner in which the tournament has perverted the thinking of fans, I had to battle a group of dedicated long time Penn fans who believed that if Princeton beats Brown, Penn should play its starters sparingly against Yale to make sure they are fresh for Brown the next night because they still will have to win that game to get in at 6-8.
If a 6-8 team wins IvyMadness, it would be embarassing if they represent the IL at the Big Dance. Why a fan would want such an outcome is counter intuitive but it is what it is. Congratulations to the team with a 6-8 record for a brillant campaign.
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Go Green
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Re: Devin Cannady to miss rest of 2018-19 season
03-08-19 07:30 AM - Post#279828
In response to bradley
Of course it is meaningful and should be treated that way. But if you want to consider the manner in which the tournament has perverted the thinking of fans, I had to battle a group of dedicated long time Penn fans who believed that if Princeton beats Brown, Penn should play its starters sparingly against Yale to make sure they are fresh for Brown the next night because they still will have to win that game to get in at 6-8.
If a 6-8 team wins IvyMadness, it would be embarassing if they represent the IL at the Big Dance. Why a fan would want such an outcome is counter intuitive but it is what it is. Congratulations to the team with a 6-8 record for a brillant campaign.
I doubt anyone (other than the 6-8 team and its fans) "wants" such an outcome.
But if it happens, congrats to them. That's the nature of having a tournament.
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TigerFan
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03-08-19 09:04 AM - Post#279830
In response to Go Green
Go Green, you are tiresome. The fact that a 6-8 team could theoretically represent the league in the NCAAs is one of the reasons that many of us don’t think there should be an Ivy tournament, not just an unavoidable consequence of having a desired tournament.
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Go Green
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03-08-19 09:24 AM - Post#279831
In response to TigerFan
Go Green, you are tiresome. The fact that a 6-8 team could theoretically represent the league in the NCAAs is one of the reasons that many of us don’t think there should be an Ivy tournament, not just an unavoidable consequence of having a desired tournament.
Respectfully, that's an entirely different perspective than suggesting that people "want" (i.e., are actively rooting for) the 6-8 team to win the tournament.
In any event, common senses suggests that such results will be rare anyway. And I hardly need to point out that it ignores the oft-repeated benefits of having a tournament.
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Tiger69
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03-08-19 10:24 AM - Post#279841
In response to Go Green
I have yet to hear “benefits†of having an IL bball tournament.ðŸ…
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Go Green
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03-08-19 11:43 AM - Post#279851
In response to Tiger69
I have yet to hear “benefits†of having an IL bball tournament.ðŸ…
If that's the case, then I suggest you consult an audiologist in short order.
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Tiger69
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03-08-19 01:47 PM - Post#279870
In response to Go Green
You mean like a second bid? So far, no good.
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Go Green
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03-08-19 01:51 PM - Post#279873
In response to Tiger69
Not yet at least. But most (reasonable) people agree that the tourney increases our chances of it. I mean, the old system obviously wasn't getting it done
Here's another benefit: the players want and enjoy it. You seriously haven't heard that one?
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rbg
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03-13-19 08:36 AM - Post#280943
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http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/article/2019/03/c...
- Standout men’s basketball player Devin Cannady ’19 entered a plea agreement on March 11 for the four charges brought against him after he allegedly threw a punch at a Department of Public Safety Officer in Wawa on Jan. 18.
The charges of simple assault, resisting arrest, and disorderly conduct were dismissed. For the charge of being under the influence without a prescription, Cannady was given a conditional discharge, which can be dismissed in a year if he does not face other arrests or convictions.
Cannady will also serve 20 hours of community service as part of his agreement.
“That’s what we asked for and the prosecutor agreed to it because it was appropriate, and a normal deal in these sort of situations,†Kim A. Otis, attorney for Cannady, said in an interview with The Daily Princetonian. “It’s a relatively minor case of the use of marijuana. It happens a lot at the University.â€
Prosecutor Kim Lacken, explained that she had consulted the police officer Cannady allegedly threw a punch at, as well as his supervisor, and they agreed that the charges were “just a result of an unfortunate event.†-
- Earlier this year, Cannady was suspended from the team for violating team rules and was later reinstated following an investigation conducted by the University. He announced earlier this month that he was taking a voluntary leave of absence from the University for personal reasons and would not be playing on the men’s basketball team for the rest of the season.
While Cannady’s driving privileges were also subject to a year-long suspension, Otis argued that because Cannady is now living and working in different parts of Indiana, losing these privileges would have a “devastating impact on him.†McCarthy agreed that Cannady’s circumstances were compelling enough to drop this suspension.
While on leave, Cannady will prepare for the NBA draft, and he has plans to return to the University in the fall, according to Otis. -
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LyleGold
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03-13-19 10:23 AM - Post#280972
In response to rbg
Not even a slap on the wrist. I wonder if the judge was wearing one black sock and one orange sock. I love the lawyer's comment that this was a normal situation that happens a lot at the University. Which part? Being high on marijuana or taking a swing at a cop?
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palestra38
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03-13-19 10:28 AM - Post#280975
In response to LyleGold
It is the typical sentence for a first time offender who gets into an inebriated altercation. Let's not call for the death penalty here---he lost the rest of what would have been his senior year, will have to return to finish his degree and lost the chance to play out his senior year with Princeton. That's not insignificant.
I don't know what you would call for here, but I know that this is fair.
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Albert08
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03-13-19 10:33 AM - Post#280978
In response to LyleGold
Knock it off about the bias of the judge. FYI, Cannady's lawyer, Kim Otis, is a Penn grad, Class of 1976.
https://www.lawyers.com/princeton/new-jersey/ kim-a...
I wonder if he was wearing one red sock and one blue sock.
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sparman
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03-13-19 10:46 AM - Post#280986
In response to Albert08
Judge got his law degree from Penn, too.
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palestra38
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03-13-19 10:55 AM - Post#280991
In response to sparman
Lyle isn't a lawyer--I am. He's a teacher, so views this from a detention point of view. Taking a swing at authority is maximum detention to him.
This was more than fair. And yes, I knew of the parties' ties to both Penn and Princeton.
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sparman
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Re: Devin Cannady to miss rest of 2018-19 season
03-13-19 11:45 AM - Post#281004
In response to palestra38
I know you are, and IMO your views reflect both legal background and experience. Lyle did not seem to have all the facts.
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