mobrien
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03-01-19 07:12 PM - Post#278618
Anyone at the game? Any idea whether Towns or Bassey will play?
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mobrien
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03-01-19 07:30 PM - Post#278622
In response to mobrien
No Towns or Bassey tonight, but the team hopes they'll both —  — be ready for tomorrow.
https://twitter.com/dtannenwald/status/11 016212540...
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mobrien
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03-01-19 08:48 PM - Post#278669
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Ugh. Turnovers. Stagnant offense with Lewis on the court. Bryce forcing threes out of frustration. Maybe our worst offensive half of the year.
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Local Observer
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03-01-19 10:02 PM - Post#278747
In response to mobrien
Ummm - the SECOND half was better!
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mobrien
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03-01-19 10:05 PM - Post#278749
In response to mobrien
Well, a win's a win. We played pretty badly, though. Ton of turnovers, more missed free throws when we could have easily put the game out of reach, and it took Aiken a looooong time to get going.
The difference was Lewis came alive in the second half. He finally shut Brodeur down, had a couple of nice, quick and decisive post moves for layups, blocked a big shot in the last couple of minutes. As bad as his first half was, his second half was good.
Side note: Baker didn't play a minute tonight. Appears he is back firmly in the dog house.
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Local Observer
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03-01-19 10:09 PM - Post#278754
In response to mobrien
Penn was 7 for 26 with 3-pointers. That was the difference.
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digamma
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03-01-19 10:37 PM - Post#278770
In response to Local Observer
Gutty win when we clearly weren't at our best. Love the ability of this team to pick each other up when others are down. D-Lo and Rio kept us in it in the first half when others were really off. Bryce and Lewis were there down the stretch.
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digamma
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03-01-19 10:37 PM - Post#278771
In response to digamma
Separately, mrjames, were you at the game behind the bench?
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mrjames
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03-01-19 11:04 PM - Post#278775
In response to digamma
I’m at the C’s game...........
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Naismith
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03-01-19 11:28 PM - Post#278780
In response to Local Observer
Bench and depth were the difference. Penn had 4 starters in there for 36 minutes and up. They played very tired last 8 minutes. Harvard 25-4 in bench scoring. Harvard's bench so deep that Amaker could toss 3-4 new guys out there vs. Princeton who didn't play tonight. Interesting win when Aiken again makes team's last field goal--a 3 pointer-- That was with 6:10 left--not quite a buzzer beater.
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mobrien
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03-02-19 12:01 AM - Post#278784
In response to Local Observer
Good point. The difference was 1) In the second half, Lewis mostly shut down Brodeur inside and forced them to shoot it from outside, and 2) their shooters missed everything. Woods and Goodman were a combined 3 of 13 from three for them; Rio and Danilo were 6 of 8 for us.
That said, those last five minutes were beyond ugly. We had multiple chances to put the game away with one good offensive possession, and couldn't do it. Then we had multiple chances to put it away with free throws, and couldn't. Against a better opponent, we would have given the game away that way.
I guess a 21% TO rate is an acceptably bad performance for us given that we seem to be able to consistently survive up to around a 25% rate. Rio and Kirkwood both get so excited trying to push in semi-transition that they dribble into trouble. Kirkwood has been a little better at this than he has been, but he can still have problems with a loose handle.
Bryce made a nice adjustment driving more in the second half. Was able to get to the line a few times, make a layup, and then he had that dagger three that was the only bucket either team made for ... awhile.
Still, a win against a desperate Penn team when we didn't have Bassey is pretty good. Hopefully we get him back tomorrow. And who knows, maybe Towns too.
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PennFan10
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03-02-19 01:46 PM - Post#278849
In response to mobrien
If Lewis “shut down Brodeur†in the second half (AJ scored 13 of his game leading 24) then what do you call Dev Goodman’s defense on Aiken (Who scored 9 of his 12 in the second half—less than half his average). I think the bench from Harvard outplaying the bench from Penn was the difference in this game. (45% from 3 vs 27%)
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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03-02-19 02:31 PM - Post#278862
In response to PennFan10
Very good defense played yesterday. Bryce never really got it going. Actually, Bryce Washington was even less impactful.
Brodeur was awesome until final 5-10 minutes. Happened at Palestra as well but I attributed that to back to back games. Penn needs another big who can score so Donahue can spell Brodeur for the closing minutes.
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mobrien
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03-02-19 03:31 PM - Post#278873
In response to PennFan10
Lewis didn't come in until almost midway through the second half, after Brodeur had scored most of his points, I think.
After getting beaten pretty badly in the first half, Lewis did a much, much better job in those last 7-8 minutes. Maybe Brodeur had just run out of steam by then.
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03-03-19 01:39 AM - Post#279077
In response to HARVARDDADGRAD
For the record, Bryce Washington injured his knee in the first half, and that’s why he wasn’t more impactful.
Before that he was playing well - hit a 3 with a defender in face to stop a dry spell, played great on ball D, had a nice steal that would have been a breakaway if not for a smart Harvard foul, and grabbed a big rebound that he actually got injured on - call was tie up but I thought he got fouled watching live. He went to the bench for a long time with ice, came back with a wrap but wasn’t the same and they shut him down.
He was in street clothes for Dartmouth and unknown what his status will be next weekend unfortunately. Before the injury he looked ready for a good bounce back.
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PennFan10
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03-03-19 02:25 AM - Post#279082
In response to mobrien
Lewis didn't come in until almost midway through the second half, after Brodeur had scored most of his points, I think.
After getting beaten pretty badly in the first half, Lewis did a much, much better job in those last 7-8 minutes. Maybe Brodeur had just run out of steam by then.
Just went back and looked at this to be clear. Lewis came into the game with 13:34 left in the 2nd half and the score tied at 35. He played the rest of the game except for a 2:18 stretch from the 6:18 min mark until the 4 min mark. The stat line for AJ and Lewis during that time read like this:
Lewis:
2-2 4pts
1 reb
1 block
1 steal
AJ:
2-3 4 pts
2 assists
1 block
1 foul
1 turnover
AJ had a hand in 9 of the 18 points Penn scored in the last 13 min. Chris Lewis was responsible for 4 pts. Both had a rebound and a block.
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digamma
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03-03-19 07:31 AM - Post#279084
In response to PennFan10
And what did AJ do in the first 27 minutes of the game?
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palestra38
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03-03-19 09:01 AM - Post#279092
In response to digamma
AJ was gassed in the final minutes. Lewis didn't stop AJ from getting his shots, they simply were short. But give Harvard credit--they beat Penn twice in games where they were outplayed for the large majority of the game. The big difference is 3 point shooting---and hitting tough contested ones. I like Penn's chances if they get the 4th spot, but Harvard simply has found ways to win the close ones this year. And that is the sign of a good team.
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PennFan10
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03-03-19 11:06 AM - Post#279123
In response to palestra38
AJ was gassed in the final minutes. Lewis didn't stop AJ from getting his shots, they simply were short. But give Harvard credit--they beat Penn twice in games where they were outplayed for the large majority of the game. The big difference is 3 point shooting---and hitting tough contested ones. I like Penn's chances if they get the 4th spot, but Harvard simply has found ways to win the close ones this year. And that is the sign of a good team.
There was no “they†in AJ’s shot attempts. He was 2-3 in the last 10 minutes of the game with 2 assist accounting for 9 pts of the 18 Penn scored. He played fine and certainly wasn’t “shut outâ€. neither team scored much down the stretch but Harvard rebounded and made their free throws. Penn missed open shots and gave up 2 offensive rebounds in the final minute that sealed the deal.
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PennFan10
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03-03-19 11:10 AM - Post#279125
In response to digamma
And what did AJ do in the first 27 minutes of the game?
The post I was replying to was the one in which mobrien stated that Lewis completely shut down Brodeur at the end of the game. That simply didn’t happen. If anything the two bigs were even in their production. That was a tail off of AJ’s production, which is a fair observation, as the rest of the game he was the dominant force on the floor. The balance of Harvard’s team, along with Penn’s missed shots and other miscues is what sealed the deal over the last 7 minutes.
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