Bison137
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03-08-19 08:08 PM - Post#279994
In response to MrPhillie
I wouldn't term it as poor. I would say mediocre. It is poor at almost every northeastern midmajor. I am not sure if there is even one school in the Ivy, AE, MAAC, PL, or NEC with a better student turnout, as mediocre as the Bucknell turnout is by historic standards. I know for sure that there aren't more than a few that do any better.
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jkrun80
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03-08-19 08:31 PM - Post#280013
In response to Bison137
I wouldn't term it as poor. I would say mediocre. It is poor at almost every northeastern midmajor. I am not sure if there is even one school in the Ivy, AE, MAAC, PL, or NEC with a better student turnout, as mediocre as the Bucknell turnout is by historic standards. I know for sure that there aren't more than a few that do any better.
This topic has been discussed a lot here. We need to accept that things have changed. Students have far more ways to spend their time now. I will say again, I am grateful for the students that do come out. It could be far worse.
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BUFan
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03-08-19 10:29 PM - Post#280060
In response to MrPhillie
On tv the crowd looked good at Colgate last night.
If Colgate hosts the final and has to give 1/3 of tickets to visitors I could easily see the visiting team using the whole allotment considering how small cotterell is.
If the football team heads to Cancun for Spring Break there won’t be much of a home court edge.
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Bison89
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03-08-19 10:57 PM - Post#280076
In response to BUFan
On tv the crowd looked good at Colgate last night.
If Colgate hosts the final and has to give 1/3 of tickets to visitors I could easily see the visiting team using the whole allotment considering how small cotterell is.
If the football team heads to Cancun for Spring Break there won’t be much of a home court edge.
I did not realize how small Cotterell is. From Wikipedia:
Cotterell Court is a 1,750-seat multi-purpose arena in Hamilton, New York. It was built in 1959 and is home to the Colgate University Raiders basketball and volleyball teams. It is named for Wesley M. Cotterell '19, a two-time letterwinner in basketball and school trustee.
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JimK_LU72
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03-08-19 11:54 PM - Post#280093
In response to res
Res, I hated every minute of statistics in college. Made my hair hurt. Reading your post my hair hurts again. And may the best team win. See ya'll Sunday at what is clearly the Patriot league's best venue. And Go Navy!
Edited by JimK_LU72 on 03-08-19 11:55 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Bison137
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03-09-19 04:18 AM - Post#280101
In response to BUFan
If the football team heads to Cancun for Spring Break there won’t be much of a home court edge.
I doubt many will be on campus. Their spring practice doesn't begin until Wednesday of the following week.
Btw, the last time Cotterell was filled was during the Adonal Foyle era.
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Bison137
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03-09-19 10:02 PM - Post#280317
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Bison article
Bison Clash With Lehigh in Patriot League Semifinals Sunday at Sojka
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bison63
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03-10-19 01:49 PM - Post#280444
In response to Bison137
Looks like Navy is going to have settle for “nice try.â€
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HoleinOne
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03-10-19 02:28 PM - Post#280467
In response to Bison89
Great school but the age and size of the gym an indicator of how the school supports basketball. Smaller than most high schools gyms, it was about half full.
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Old Bison
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03-10-19 02:39 PM - Post#280472
In response to HoleinOne
And Langell has built a program there. Tourney final last year, tourney final this year and we can only assume tourney final next year. Good forbid they had support and facilities
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BUFan
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03-10-19 04:13 PM - Post#280496
In response to Old Bison
Does Bucknell get the usual 1/3 allotment for final? If so, even without students hopefully we can run a few fan buses and use the whole 1/3 considering that can’t be more than about 600 tickets!
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Bucknellbisonfan21
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03-10-19 05:07 PM - Post#280506
In response to BUFan
Newcomb announced that Bucknell is taking 4 fan buses
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Bison137
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03-10-19 05:47 PM - Post#280508
In response to HoleinOne
Great school but the age and size of the gym an indicator of how the school supports basketball. Smaller than most high schools gyms, it was about half full.
Official attendance at Cotterell today was 1089. Over the past 15 years, Bucknell's WORST attendance was greater than that. Cotterell's capacity btw is listed as 1782.
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bison63
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03-10-19 06:17 PM - Post#280511
In response to Bison137
4 buses would have to be at least 400 fans, right? Enough to make a lot of noise. Did anybody catch the announcers comment about the “ flat†atmosphere despite a pretty good crowd. Towards the end of the game, when the outcome seemed secure Langel had to exhort the “ crowd†to make some noise.
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res
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03-10-19 06:38 PM - Post#280517
In response to bison63
4 buses would have to be at least 400 fans, right? Enough to make a lot of noise. Did anybody catch the announcers comment about the “ flat†atmosphere despite a pretty good crowd. Towards the end of the game, when the outcome seemed secure Langel had to exhort the “ crowd†to make some noise.
Not much more than half of that, '63. The typical charter bus seats more like 60. But there will be more Bison that get there by other means.
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Old Bison
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03-10-19 06:53 PM - Post#280518
In response to res
Lotta rumors around VA basketball circles....Mooney’s out and guess who’s in?
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Steve
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03-10-19 07:03 PM - Post#280520
In response to Bison137
Haven't posted since I was a student at Colgate nine years ago. Figure it's as good a time as any to make a comeback, since I have no idea if Colgate will be this good ever again. Sure hope so, it's been a fun year.
For those who don't remember me (probably all of you), I am one of maybe 10 Colgate hoops fans who don't have a friend or family member on the team. I did work for the athletic dept. as a student and wrote articles for men's hoops on the website.
Anyway, Bison137's comments are true. I attended nearly every men's basketball game from 2006-2010 (my tenure at Colgate), and the attendance was always worse than listed. Example: There were 34 people at the Lehigh game in 2007. 34. I know because I was one of them. Granted, it snowed 30 inches that night, but still. Attendance was always terrible and less than listed.
The "Blizzard on the Bison" day was the only time the students really showed any semblance of decent support for hoops during my tenure. I believe we had 500-plus students there, which is impressive considering the team was lucky to get a tenth of that for your typical regular-season game. I was happy with the support then given how conditioned I was to empty stands, but I'm willing to bet 80 percent of the student body was elsewhere on that Sunday afternoon.
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Steve
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03-10-19 07:10 PM - Post#280522
In response to Bison137
It filled for women's hoops vs. UConn a few years back, a game that materialized out of thin air so Breanna Stewart could have a "hometown" road matchup before she left school (I believe Colgate stepped in when a game vs. Syracuse fell through).
But men's hoops: Never close since Foyle as you said, and that won't change Wednesday despite this being the biggest basketball game on campus since the big man's era.
And that makes me a bit scared for the PL title game, honestly. The usual edge a home team has in a tournament championship not played at a neutral site will be absent.
As much as it pains me to say, I think Bucknell wins a close one. I have to think on it some more before Wed. But we'll see.
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jkrun80
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03-10-19 07:15 PM - Post#280523
In response to Old Bison
Lotta rumors around VA basketball circles....Mooney’s out and guess who’s in?
Sounds like mostly speculation so far. But it would certainly be good fit. Let's hope the rumors are wrong.
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketba ll/inside...
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bison63
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03-10-19 07:35 PM - Post#280527
In response to jkrun80
Two things going on here. Coaching rumor deserves its own thread. As for the Colgate game, seems to me that they have to be the favorite. To wit they have been ranked higher than us most of the season in most of the rankings, though I did not start to believe they might be the better team until we stumbled down the stretch, while they clearly were the PL’s best in the 2nd half of the season.
I have said all year that we are the PL champs until somebody takes it away. While CU may be favored, they will not have an easy time of it. IMO we are the only PL team that could beat them in Hamilton at this specific time.
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